Pierre Engvall

[glue]

Note how the bottom 2 lines do with Engvall on them:

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Right on, so aligns with my eye test

 

[Griffin76]

Who the heck is Mikey? Bunting or Hutchinson?

 

[Teeder Keon]

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

He tilts the ice for us but cannot finish whatsoever. The kind of player coaches love

 

[HellasLEAF]

I've always quietly been confident in Engvall progression. I think there was too much focus on lack of offence and mistakes. You could see his size and two way play would be useful but the points are welcome.

 

[Eye Test]

He’s always been a solid player who makes a few gaffes. Some people just hated on him to much... a lot of teams would be happy to have him in their bottom 6.

 

[Teeder Keon]

I've always quietly been confident in Engvall progression. I think there was too much focus on lack of offence and mistakes. You could see his size and two way play would be useful but the points are welcome.

“Lack of offence and mistakes “ hmmmm
Wonder what experienced coaches would think ???

 

[Teeder Keon]

He’s always been a solid player who makes a few gaffes. Some people just hated on him to much... a lot of teams would be happy to have him in their bottom 6.

Please find that team ! Pallllease !

 

[ShaneFalco]

He’s always been a solid player who makes a few gaffes. Some people just hated on him to much... a lot of teams would be happy to have him in their bottom 6.

This is it! But man if he used his size more...
He's built like a brick shit house just needs some meanness

 

[Teeder Keon]

If he would use his size he would be so more valuable

Problem is , he never seems to put his neck on the line out there ……

 

[ShaneFalco]

Problem is , he never seems to put his neck on the line out there ……

I see what you did there

 

[Teeder Keon]

This is it! But man if he used his size more...
He's built like a brick shit house just needs some meanness

“He’s built like a brick shit house “
so what !

“ needs some meanness “
Not going to happen , loved playing against weak minded limp players like him “ , when I caught up to them that is ….

“ skates so beautifully “
So super duper , Ice capades looking for some extras to skate around with animal heads on them for the kiddies ….

“ has a long reach “
Sounds great if he actually did something with that long reach game in game out

“ has a good hard shot “
like that one yesterday , that was awesome , now what when he misses most of the time or puts a weak one into the crest ,

“ great potential “
Tick tock tick tock ok ok !!!!

“ consistency “
A good shift here and there
One ok game every 5-7

“ contract is good “
Great , can’t we bring up other young players that fill at least what he does and more from the minors ?

“ takes the body “
Yes , one shift of every 5 and and that one good game every 5




here’s some things that actually describe this player , game in game out since he’s been up with us

I challenged those points made about this player up top here

now I challenge all of you ….
Let’s be honest with our critique with yourselves without the blue tinted awesome Leaf filters
Let’s say he played on another team …

can anyone please challenge this lower half scouting report , with actual real opposing thoughts and contradictions to the overall consensus from wayyyyyy smarter hockey minds than myself regarding 47


Scouting report
weak minded
Easy to play against
Constantly turns into danger areas when pressured or not
Has a difficult time getting the puck out of our zone
Has a problem getting the puck in deep
Can’t score
Not accurate
Pretends to be tough with his ^*%# ass cheap shots slashes and cross checks after the fact
Doesn’t win a lot of battles
Can’t win face offs
Not a good passer
Hasn’t produced at a NHL level
Does skate byes waving his stick
When he has a chance to use his great speed to cut into the middle of net , he either shoots wide or weak or just pulls up or turns out
Doesn’t stand in front of the net to screen
Is afraid of tough player's in corners
Awful in playoffs when real men come out to play
Can’t use him on the top 2 lines
He would be a ok player on 4th line playing 7-10 min
Better player in the minors
Career minor leaguer
Mistake prone
Doesn’t fight

Please give to The World Giraffe foundation
It’s a worthy cause …
Be kind to animals
Go Leafs Go

Disclaimer;
My opinions and observations are strictly about 47 as a player , not directed to him outside of him as a player on our team
It’s not personal

 

[Teeder Keon]

 

[ShaneFalco]

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Yeah this is just weird now

 

[keonsbitterness]

Yeah this is just weird now

Now???

 

[Teeder Keon]

Now???

See that’s why I like you Mate , you get it …..
Awesome

 

[keonsbitterness]

See that’s why I like you Mate , you get it …..
Awesome

All the Russian mail order brides love me.

 

[Teeder Keon]

All the Russian mail order brides love me.

This is my age and speed now with dating when it comes to Russian babushkas

 

[hobarth]

Prior to this year Engvall has played 90 NHL games, his stats 15 goals and 12 assists, this is pretty well playing 4th or 3rd line duty and he rarely got more than 11 minutes of TOI per game. Those are pretty good stats for any player that plays as little as Pierre and for a player who plays with players of so little talent. Sure it seems obvious that Engvall has far more to give and if Nylander was more physical, Marner bigger, Tavares faster and on and on TO would be better, sometimes we need to be more accepting that players are what they are.

TO has been winning with the players that here now so it seems they are doing the jobs they need to do that enables TO to win, an ideal situation. Teams are often chemistry experiments and even tho some members are less than many would like, they still might be the right ingredient for a successful experiment.

I read somewhere that the Eng/Kampf/Kase line was controlling the play to the tune of 54% even tho they mostly start in the DZ, that line without Engvall is around 48%, that 6% is significant. It surprises me that Keefe touches that line but the Spezza line hadn't been contributing offensively and now with Engvall they seem to be scoring, coincidence?

 

[Eye of Ra]

playing better?

 

[Shooter2x]

If he can learn to puck protect he will become a 20 goal scorer

 

[Eye of Ra]

If he can learn to puck protect he will become a 20 goal scorer

well thats nice and all. but how is his physical game? he is pretty tall and is mostly playing in bottom 6.

 

[Shooter2x]

well thats nice and all. but how is his physical game? he is pretty tall and is mostly playing in bottom 6.

No beuno on the physical

 

[Ashdown2]

everyone complains that engvall isnt physical and the "player of the week" that everyone wants is hagel .........
a guy who gets 2x more icetime and they have the same number of hits and is much worse defensively........

 

[Duffman955]

Hagel is ass. Stay away

Buy Engvall ain't a world beater either. Very replaceable