Tim Leiweke is President of AEG
Is also Chairman of the NHL Expansion & Relocation Committee
Sits on the NHL Finance Committee
AEG "happens" to have an empty Arena in Kansas City,
AEG Is building one another arena, financed by Gary Bettman's brother, in Las Vegas.
so new thread- how do the NHL amend the bid to make it acceptable for Baum as he has indicated he cannot accept it as it is written now, or do they try to force the no sale route?
Other peoples interest of moving the team besides JB.
From Twitter:
brahmresnik: Coyotes BK: Balsillie exits courthouse, can't find his car, heads back in to make a call. Heads will roll
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We can be pretty darn certain Balsillie has no interest in teams not in Hamilton.
Apples and oranges. For one thing, none of the people buying those franchises were trying to move it without the league's permission. Remember what the league is really fighting for here, not what the Balsillie propagandists are claiming they are. The power to control where their franchises play and who owns them is paramount to the league.
The league did fight for Winnipeg, for years. It's not like as soon as the owner wanted to sell, the team left the city.
They didn't fight so hard for Quebec, but it seems a decision was made that that market was hopeless, and given the city had no new arena, no prospects, and no owner while being the second smallest market with a pro major league team in North America (ahead of only the special case Green Bay), its hard to argue with the decision.
There is little Bettman could have done to save the North Stars given they moved in 1993. But if we are just talking the league itself, Minnesota was another market with arena troubles. Still, that team never should have moved.
Bettman worked as hard or harder for Edmonton, supported by Cal Nichols' accounts. Is Edmonton one of "Bettman's teams" or is this argument baseless?
You're getting your timelines mixed up. The league doesn't take official offers for relocation while local options still exist. So Balsillie wasn't getting a relocation option. Those "terms" did not yet exist.
If he wanted relocation terms, he needed to wait for the local options be exhausted. Apparently, though, he was willing to pose as a local bidder for his own purposes until it became time to actually sign the agreement
1. How can you be sure? Was he not going to sign an agreement that if the Capri Plan or Plan B happened he would keep the team in Pitts?
2. How exactly did the NHL fight for Winnipeg? The NHL didnt fight at all for Quebec. Saying Quebec was hopeless is just....wow
3. When did Bettman become the commish? Was Minnesota still not in Minnesota?
4. Do you have any Links to the NHL fighting for Edmonton? Not saying your wrong, i just dont know about this topic.
5. Balsille would have known that he could have the option to relocate if there were no local bidders. Who were the local bidders that kept this option open? Once again, with no local bidders, no Capri Plan or Plan B, Balsille could have had the option to relocate the team. He was told to sign an agreement that this would not happen. If no local bidders came about and the Capri/Plan B fell apart, why would he have to sign this agreement?
Were there still local bidder options at this point in time?
so new thread- how do the NHL amend the bid to make it acceptable for Baum as he has indicated he cannot accept it as it is written now, or do they try to force the no sale route?
1. How can you be sure?
2. How exactly did the NHL fight for Winnipeg? The NHL didnt fight at all for Quebec. Saying Quebec was hopeless is just....wow
3. When did Bettman become the commish? Was Minnesota still not in Minnesota?
4. Do you have any Links to the NHL fighting for Edmonton? Not saying your wrong, i just dont know about this topic.
5. Balsille would have known that he could have the option to relocate if there were no local bidders. Who were the local bidders that kept this option open? Once again, with no local bidders, no Capri Plan or Plan B, Balsille could have had the option to relocate the team. He was told to sign an agreement that this would not happen. If no local bidders came about and the Capri/Plan B fell apart, why would he have to sign this agreement?
Were there still local bidder options at this point in time?
To anyone following this situation closely -
Why doesn't the NHL just tack an extra 40M onto their bid and get this thing over with? I know it is a lot of money but it would surely give the Judge the escape clause he's been looking for.
Also, 40M might be close to what they end up spending this year if this thing doesn't get resolved soon.
JUdge to NHL: is the worst case really that the bankrupt estate gets is $2 million out of the $140 million NHL says yes that's true
How can we be sure Balsillie wanted to relocate the franchise? Are you serious?
Ah, so no owner, no arena, and no hope of either for the future isn't hopeless, eh?
If you have to ask, you shouldn't be allocating blame. Bettman started in Feb 1993, the rather convoluted North Stars saga started in 1990 and finished in spring 1993. It was another arena situation, the city promised an expansion team when they get a new arena built. It still shouldn't have happened, but the whole Gund/Norm Green mess was ugly in so many different ways.
No offense but I've had to go through that around two dozen times just since these threads started. I really don't want to go through it again nor is this the proper place for it. Let's just say Cal Nichols has been one of Bettman's biggest supporters ever since he appeared on the scene. If you want more, there's plenty in the earlier threads.
Because the league only wanted local bidders at that time.
Obviously, since the team is still there.
3. When did Bettman become the commish? Was Minnesota still not in Minnesota?
Currently the NHL has excluded a handful of creditors (including TGO and the unsubstantiated claim of Moyes). If they fulfill all but those two (completely), they might get a happier Baum. And that might be only another $10m or so.
So happy this ends tomorrow.
and the best part is I won't be sitting around all day waiting for the decision.
He was either "not quite" the commissioner, or he had Just started when it was announced that the team would be moving after the 92/93 season.
Norm Green sucks.
so to put it bluntly, the entity in charge of approving bidders, cannot approve themselves as their bid is deficient
To anyone following this situation closely -
Why doesn't the NHL just tack an extra 40M onto their bid and get this thing over with? I know it is a lot of money but it would surely give the Judge the escape clause he's been looking for.
Also, 40M might be close to what they end up spending this year if this thing doesn't get resolved soon.
To anyone following this situation closely -
Why doesn't the NHL just tack an extra 40M onto their bid and get this thing over with? I know it is a lot of money but it would surely give the Judge the escape clause he's been looking for.
Also, 40M might be close to what they end up spending this year if this thing doesn't get resolved soon.