OT: Philadelphia Eagles (NFL): Don't Cry Because It's Over, Smile Because it Happened (Offseason - 2023)
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ChaosLord
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What I would like to happen: Bijan Robinson at the #10 pick. I know, I know, RBs have a short lifespan. But the Eagles also have a short window of opportunity. In the meatime, the Eagles would have the best offense in the league, hands down. We've just seen the KC Chiefs win 2 SBs with an excellent offense and a serviceable defense. It can be done.
What will happen: Howie will trade down for more picks. I just see it happening.
What will happen: Howie will trade down for more picks. I just see it happening.
Columbus Hockey Dad
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I wouldn't have a problem drafting him IF they can't get Carter, and IF they can get him by trading down. No way you pick him at #10. That stated, I think another idiot organization will draft him too early and save us from that mistake.
ponder719
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Oh, sweet Christ on a potato, you figured out the magic words to get me to support Bijan to the Eagles.
ChaosLord
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** cough cough ** The Falcons **cough cough**
ponder719
Abols to Abols, Dust to Dust
All that said, I think we should go DL, with OL as the backup plan if things go spare. If at all possible, and Carter's off the board (either because he's been taken or because they don't trust him on the basis of interviews), we should be trading back somewhere to 15-20, pick up more assets, and get whoever's available in that range. I'm not super well-versed in the players, haven't had time to do any research and I don't watch college ball because I have no rooting interest, but from a positional perspective, we need to be planning for life without Fletch, BG, Kelce, and Lane. Those four are nigh-impossible to replace without taking a talent hit, so we need to put serious assets into trying to do it right. Bijan's an interesting name at 30, but he's not getting there, and we have long-term needs that aren't compatible with wasting hopefully the best pick we'll have in the next 5 years.
JojoTheWhale
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I mean, yes. Hell, it's the smart way to go. But they have Mahomes and Reid. They're not comparable to any other team in the league.
The Chiefs lead the NFL in EPA/dropback. Buffalo was 2nd. If you took just the gap between KC and Buffalo and turned it into a team, it would be the 10th most efficient passing attack in the NFL.
It's not that they have a short lifespan. That's secondary. It's that they don't move the needle much at all.
If you added [insert your choice for best RB in football], they still weren't close to the Chiefs. No one targeted RBs in the passing game less than the Eagles last year. Part of the reason is that they just didn't run the types of plays on which RBs make most of their impact. But the other component is that Hurts scrambles largely replace the checkdowns where those guys tend to rack up touches.
While we're at it, wasn't this the rationale for it being ok for the Chiefs to take CEH?
deadhead
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The one exception I might make is a RB who can run WR routes at a WR level, in that case, he puts a lot of stress on a defense.
FLYguy3911
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The Chiefs just rode an athletic 7th round running back who wasn’t particularly good in college. What are we doing here?
Either way I would bet the house Howie does not sit at 10 and 30 and just pick. He’s going to make a move somewhere. I’d like a volume draft for once.
McShay (I know) seemed pretty confident teams sitting 1-8 would pass on Carter. Obviously a team outside the top 10 could jump up for him.
Either way I would bet the house Howie does not sit at 10 and 30 and just pick. He’s going to make a move somewhere. I’d like a volume draft for once.
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JojoTheWhale
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One of the really neat things that PFF has found in their data is that this does exist and is measurable. But what's an even bigger impact is a WR you can move into the backfield. And they started saying this way before Deebo.
Basically what I'm saying is Percy Harvin forever.
deadhead
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I predict a bunch of moves, given this seems to be a draft without any consensus, if Howie sticks to his draft board, players he loves will fall to where they're steals in his eyes - and that provides multiple opportunities for arbitrage.
As usual, he's going into the draft with a set team, who would you guarantee (other than Bijan) to start as rookies on this team? So Howie will focus on potential and depth, not trying to fill holes. He buried Jurgens and Dean last season - who will start this season.
Rookie starts last season:
Calcaterra 2
Blankenship 4
Davis 5
Meh, I'll take Brian Westbrook.
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BrindamoursNose
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I'm genuinely so impressed with how good of a troll ESP is - and people buy it hook, line, and sinker
I could be wrong but I think depending on who is there he is likely going there.
I absolutely hate the mindset people take in sports where they say "well the team that won the Super Bowl last year did it this way", so that's the way we have to do it!
now it's "the chiefs won a SB without playing defense, so that's what we need to copy!"
now it's "the chiefs won a SB without playing defense, so that's what we need to copy!"
It is an offensive league though and has been trending that way for years. Still dont think that warrants taking Bijan at 10. If they trade down a bit and he is there I think I might though.
BrindamoursNose
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I think this is even a weird argument because defensive players can affect the offense, so drafting D is important too. Just because we didn't beat Mahomes in a shootout, people think Defense is irrelevant at #10.
As much as throwing dimes down the field is important, pressuring the QB consistently is wildly important as well.
We're worse on the line right now and we have a lot of Sacks to replace. That's why #10, to me, is Nolan Smith or Jalen Carter (if he makes it).
Sure they can, but a great offense will nearly always beat a great defense these days with the way the rules are written. If one of the corners is there that is where I go, but if they trade back and Bijan is still there, I wont hate the pick. The rest of you can quibble about it. The NFC is crap and he is an impact player that can help them get back to the Super Bowl in the next few years.
Taijuan Fedotov
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Trade down with both 1sts. (Unless Carter slips to 10)
JojoTheWhale
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NFLN with no sound + online stream for me.
FatTugboatFlahr
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Steady, now. He's a Cowboys fan. Compliments can feed the evil.
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