Salary Cap: Pens Salary Cap Thread: If we score 6 we win, its science!

[Randy Butternubs]

Friedman was sent down today.

I'm guessing it's to save a little bit of cash towards the cap.

 

[Andy99]

Friedman was sent down today.

It’s just to get some playing time during the break or conserve cap. Petry won’t be able to return next week and they’re not going to play with 6 Dmen only…of course maybe Smith comes up, but I doubt it..

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Hextall just needs to clear house. Trade all of our offensive minded prospects for 2way 4th liner prospects. Only way we will see any in the nhl in a proper role. Because at least then they’re projected 4th liners getting 4th line minutes.

 

[Turin]

Why move Kapanen if we don’t have to?

1st, conditional 2nd, Poulin, Pickering for Chychrun.

Because his stats right now are better than his actual play, and ultimately don’t think he’s long for the team.

 

[Power Surge]

What option is behind door #3?

Klingberg

 

[vikingGoalie]

Gibson's legit the most overrated player in hockey at this point. Dude has been below average for 4 straight years yet people still talk about him as this surefire top starting goalie.

People write off his shitty numbers as "he plays for a bad defensive team", as if it's not possible for goalies to put up good numbers on a bad defensive team.

honestly i don't really dispute that his play has been less then good, but he has all the tools and the tool box.

As you know with your own experience. A good goalie can only play on a bad team for so long before their play starts to slip. Gibson is 29, not old as far as goalies go and I don't think it's a physical thing hurting his numbers most likely mental. There is a chance that he rebounds in a big way with a change of scenery. There is also a chance he's irrevocablly broken. But a different place where you actually have a chance of winning and a different mindset/culture would probably help him as much as better defense or more.
Though in truth my suggestion was a complete toungue in cheek thing, not really serious about that and it was a mentally lazy exercise to say gibson, just he's a hot button goalie on this board and the ducks are awful. He'd be a bad fit for us if we are keeping Jarry and as you infer dunno if he will rebound to his former self or not

 

[Power Surge]

honestly i don't really dispute that his play has been less then good, but he has all the tools and the tool box.

As you know with your own experience. A good goalie can only play on a bad team for so long before their play starts to slip. Gibson is 29, not old as far as goalies go and I don't think it's a physical thing hurting his numbers most likely mental. There is a chance that he rebounds in a big way with a change of scenery. There is also a chance he's irrevocablly broken. But a different place where you actually have a chance of winning and a different mindset/culture would probably help him as much as better defense or more.
Though in truth my suggestion was a complete toungue in cheek thing, not really serious about that and it was a mentally lazy exercise to say gibson, just he's a hot button goalie on this board and the ducks are awful. He'd be a bad fit for us if we are keeping Jarry and as you infer dunno if he will rebound to his former self or not

100 percent agree. Gone are the days when Goalies could be faces of franchises and their teams could use the trap to thier advantage. Gibson needs to go on a contender but maybe he likes Anaheim and doesn't want to go anywhere.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I think that may be more Sullivan than the 4th line itself though. I didn't think they played poorly enough to be benched more or less last night.

I totally agree. In the end, it's a problem that we have a supposed shut-down line that Sullivan doesn't trust, so he over-relies on line 3. I'm advocating shoring that bottom 6 up so that Sullivan feels he can use it because lord knows Carter and Geno and Sid need some help managing minutes on occasion.

Upthread, I was talking about TB, but I also feel that Carter was pretty bad in terms of his defensive responsibilities against the Rags. Ideally, because you can't move Carter even if you want to, and he's a vet and respected in the room, make him into Cullen Lite. Move your 2.2 million 4C who plays 8 minutes a night and get rid of some other dead weight or LTIR someone and then bring in a younger 3C who can eat those minutes. Carter can feast on some lesser match-ups, you keep his legs fresher and you shelter his defensive minutes + pair him with some speedy meat + potatoes dudes.

We won't for a number of reasons (duos, Carter is our 3C, stubbornness, vet deference) but it seems like such a simple fix.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I also am not nearly so bullish on TB as other parts of this board, so I'm cool with him going out ala ZAR to nowhere for something we need because paying your defensive specialist 2.2 million to play bad defense 8 minutes a night seems dumb to me.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

 

[Randy Butternubs]

A bit interesting that they didn't send DOC down too. Maybe getting some additional coaching?

 

[66-30-33]

I also am not nearly so bullish on TB as other parts of this board, so I'm cool with him going out ala ZAR to nowhere for something we need because paying your defensive specialist 2.2 million to play bad defense 8 minutes a night seems dumb to me.

I'd not mind letting our bottom 6 go. Keep Poe but let everyone else goe. I dunno what we can go after but something different.

 

[Turin]

Kapanen, 1st next year, 3rd this year, Poulin for Horvat and a 4th.

 

[Gurglesons]

Kapanen, 1st next year, 3rd this year, Poulin for Horvat and a 4th.

Hell of a return for a UFA that won’t even play his natural position here. Next.

 

[Zbynek]

Kapanen, 1st next year, 3rd this year, Poulin for Horvat and a 4th.

Rather throw those assets at Timo Meier or, honestly, a 50% retained Patrick Kane and just go all f***ing in this year.

 

[Zbynek]

Also not sure if Poulin has any trade value / tradeability right now due to his personal stuff.

 

[Power Surge]

Finally got a look at those winter classic Jerseys. Looking like the Pirates there.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Finally got a look at those winter classic Jerseys. Looking like the Pirates there.

They're so bad



.. Oh, and so are the jerseys

 

[Power Surge]

They're so bad



.. Oh, and so are the jerseys

I guess it makes sense. Fenway, the Green Monster. Pirates coming to town in Hockey Jerseys.

Quite original by FSG

 

[SomeDude]

Finally got a look at those winter classic Jerseys. Looking like the Pirates there.

Yea, that’s the kind of the whole Point

 

[IcedCapp]

It's true. The one true sign of an asset management expert is posting continuously on a website. I hear "posting through it" is one of the hardest asset management techniques to master.

You can manage my assets anytime

 

[Gurglesons]

Anyone ever think about how we looked good in the playoffs against the Rangers because Dumo was hurt?

 

[Pancakes]

Anyone ever think about how we looked good in the playoffs against the Rangers because Dumo was hurt?

I mean it makes sense because I feel like the way to beat the Rangers is to be aggressive on them in the neutral zone and Dumoulin's gap is huge because of how slow he is so he can't just can't play the right way against them.

 

[K Fleur]

Hextall just needs to clear house. Trade all of our offensive minded prospects for 2way 4th liner prospects. Only way we will see any in the nhl in a proper role. Because at least then they’re projected 4th liners getting 4th line minutes.

We haven’t had one of those for atleast like 5 years

 

[IcedCapp]

We haven’t had one of those for atleast like 5 years

TSN (take it for what it’s worth) says the pens have like 3 prospects total. The development side of the organization has definitely been collecting paycheques