Salary Cap: Pens Salary Cap: Free Agency, everyone panic!!! Geno talk to the Geno thread only please

[Zirakzigil]

Off season time. New thread time apparently cause @Ugene Magic doesn’t like high page counts.

So how about them Malkin and Letang UFAs? Maybe we should sign one or both.

Geno thread. Keep Geno talk here:

Rumor: - Geno where art thou?

With all the Geno rumors and news, time for its own thread. Keep the Geno talk here please.

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[orby]

A 6 year deal for Letang would be hilarious if the AAV were like 4 million.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Actual rational thought

Surprising for once.

The only time I hope what Eklund says is true is,…

Letang and Penguins Closing in on 3 year/22M+ Deal.​

Source: Eklund

Id be happy with that, but its Eklund.

At $4.1M is there a better option/cap hit for Line 2? Gun to my head my preference is still signing Rakell but if that ship sails this might be another option, and a way to move out a d-man in one fell swoop.

Obviously Wheeler is 35 years old but the period to win is the next 2-3 years anyway. Wheeler is still producing at ppg pace and I'd love to see a winger of his size on Geno's line.

Idk, i just think it beats xxxxx-Geno-xxxxxx.

Wheeler would be a good fit. Gritty, leadership, good shot. 4.1mil would be a steal.

Come home MAF!!!!!

Edit: Noo.....

What is going on

6 years for Letang is complete yuck unless the cap number starts with a 5. Id do 4 years for Geno if its cheap.

I know Geno has a lot of milleage, but if you are willing to go 6 years for Letang, just give Geno his 4 at a reduced cap hit.

At this point, you sink or swim with those guys anyway and, if it does not work, you rebuild.

Right?! Only like 6 years of Letang if his cap starts with a 5 though.

 

[Pancakes]

But 6 years won't be what it takes. 6 years would be massaging the cap number to make it a bit more favorable. I'm willing to do that to an extent, but 6 years for a 35 year old player is beyond that IMO.

Like I said last page, $7.5 million a year for 4 years or $7 million a year for 5 years is what I'd do. Beyond that, I think you're getting a bit too wild.

Does it matter in the end? We will be hot garbage for the final two years of any 6 year deal for Letang, so him being overpaid at that point isn't going to affect much. He won't stop a tank, and if he's still playing well enough to, the Pens will probably be able to trade him at that point to a team that is contending.

I think the key here is to avoid getting too many long term deals for roleplayers/mid tier guys. Make sure there's enough cap flexibility so that when the rebuild does start the team can still find a direction.

But I don't think signing a key guy to a deal that's a little too long is a problem

 

[Beauner]

A 6 year deal for Letang would be hilarious if the AAV were like 4 million.

Everyone was wrong, Letang is getting 8x $3 million. Not 3x $8 million

 

[OnMyOwn]

Does it matter in the end? We will be hot garbage for the final two years of any 6 year deal for Letang, so him being overpaid at that point isn't going to affect much. He won't stop a tank, and if he's still playing well enough to, the Pens will probably be able to trade him at that point to a team that is contending.

I think the key here is to avoid getting too many long term deals for roleplayers/mid tier guys. Make sure there's enough cap flexibility so that when the rebuild does start the team can still find a direction.

But I don't think signing a key guy to a deal that's a little too long is a problem

I’m guessing the hold up with both is figuring the balance out with this. I don’t believe Rossi for a second, but there are a lot of factors and details in every contract.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Yeah Seravalli shut it down.

Looks like #FleuryWatch is back on

Come home flower!!!!!

 

[dogthateats]

 

[Tom Hanks]

Happy Draft Day Letang Signing Day.

A Letang clip on his last game

 

[ChaosAgent]

Happy Draft Day Letang Signing Day.

A Letang clip on his last game

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We coulda totally fit both Letang and Geno on that door

 

[TimmyD]

IF Rossi is right then I think it’s pretty obvious they aren’t all that serious about bringing Geno back. They would be willing to go 6 years for Letang but not 4 for Geno. That makes it pretty obvious to me. They don’t want him back…IF Rossi is right

 

[bathroomSTAAL]

IF Rossi is right then I think it’s pretty obvious they aren’t all that serious about bringing Geno back. They would be willing to go 6 years for Letang but not 4 for Geno. That makes it pretty obvious to me. They don’t want him back…IF Rossi is right

Rossi isn't right though. He doesn't have a clue

 

[Scandale du Jour]

IF Rossi is right then I think it’s pretty obvious they aren’t all that serious about bringing Geno back. They would be willing to go 6 years for Letang but not 4 for Geno. That makes it pretty obvious to me. They don’t want him back…IF Rossi is right

Rossi is probably a Malkin mouthpiece on this.

If the fanbase is angry about the news of the team not willing to go 4 years, it puts pressure on management. PR 101.

 

[Zbynek]

Rossi is probably a Malkin mouthpiece on this.

If the fanbase is angry about the news of the team not willing to go 4 years, it puts pressure on management. PR 101.

A nice idea, but I think you are severely overestimating Rossi's competence.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Rossi is probably a Malkin mouthpiece on this.

If the fanbase is angry about the news of the team not willing to go 4 years, it puts pressure on management. PR 101.

I don't think Malkin has that much sway with the fanbase at this point. In corners like here yeah.

He does have sway with Sid though. And probably is the right option depending on price.

 

[LOGiK]

Come home flower!!!!!

Can't get out of the first round anyway so he couldn't possibly sabotage the team any more than what they are currently working at.
Why not.
Bring Staal back for the finale as well.

 

[OnMyOwn]

I don’t know that there’s anyone that can actually replace him out there right now. Give him a few years to finish out the career with Sid. He deserves it, IMO.

 

[Peat]

One possibility if Rossi is right is that they're exploring the idea of giving Letang a lot of term to bring his cap down, so they can give Geno a bit more (while still getting them under 14m) without going to 4 years.

It certainly feels like there's some jiggery pokery going on given how long we've between told Hextall and Letang are nearly there without the breakthrough.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

I don't think Malkin has that much sway with the fanbase at this point. In corners like here yeah.

He does have sway with Sid though. And probably is the right option depending on price.

The vocal minority is all that is needed to put pressure on management.

I do agree that Sid is probably putting pressure on the team to keep Letang and Malkin both.

 

[Turin]

Surprising for once.


Wheeler would be a good fit. Gritty, leadership, good shot. 4.1mil would be a steal.

Wheeler is soft, an awful leader and has a piss poor shot. Haha

 

[Tom Hanks]

One possibility if Rossi is right is that they're exploring the idea of giving Letang a lot of term to bring his cap down, so they can give Geno a bit more (while still getting them under 14m) without going to 4 years.

It certainly feels like there's some jiggery pokery going on given how long we've between told Hextall and Letang are nearly there without the breakthrough.

I heard it was more hokey pokey but they’ll turn it around.

 

[ChaosAgent]

The vocal minority is all that is needed to put pressure on management.

Honestly I doubt it.

I don't really think management feels pressure from fan sentiment. I also think, particularly in the case of Malkin, there are voices in there that are questioning his go-forward value to this team.

 

[Peat]

I heard it was more hokey pokey but they’ll turn it around.

Well they're very nearly at the last leg for that.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I think you need a post about how it's important to remember to root for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the back. Because if you have a crest on the back, you're obviously wearing your jersey backwards.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Honestly I doubt it.

I don't really think management feels pressure from fan sentiment. I also think, particularly in the case of Malkin, there are voices in there that are questioning his go-forward value to this team.

I do not think Hextall or Burke feel pressure from the fanbase, but ownership does. Well, maybe this new ownership group does not because they do not care about the market. I am sure Mario did feel fan pressure.

 

[IcedCapp]

Honestly I doubt it.

I don't really think management feels pressure from fan sentiment. I also think, particularly in the case of Malkin, there are voices in there that are questioning his go-forward value to this team.

Okay, but I’ll say this: this board plays it fast and loose with “Sid is demanding this person be signed and this person on his line,“ well, Sid and Geno are best friends and I promise you Sid would rather have Geno re-signed than Letang (not that he doesn’t want 58 back). So if Geno doesn’t return, that narrative needs to be 6-feet under.