Salary Cap: Pens '24-'25 Salary Thread: The Crosbicles Volume XIX

[Ulf5]

It's a good trade, not sure this team gives a f*** though for it to make any difference, and Sullivan obviously won't use him properly, so it sucks for Tamasino.

Had 20 in 41 last year with a little over 12 minutes per game. 7 goals 13 assists.

 

[Zbynek]

I mean I guess. I dunno. I'm not going to be overtly negative about everything.

Tomasino is an absolute fantastic pick-up for a 4th. Even if he amounts to nothing. It shows Kyle at least has some sense.

One can argue Granlund is a fantastic pick-up for a 2nd, it doesn't mean the GM making the trade has sense.

Now if Dubas follows this by canning Sullivan or at the very least dumping Beauvillier, I'll gladly swallow my tongue. But he won't.

 

[Speaker City]

Like many, I have my doubts on his usage, but this is a move you make every chance you get.

 

[End of Line]

Yes. He was 7th in points for us while 20th-23rd in ice time just a few years ago.

Appreciate the insight

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

It's funny to check out the Preds' board thread about this trade and seeing them hating on Brunette/Trotz like we hate on Sullivan/Dubas. Hell yeah, misery.

 

[eXile3]

Yeah I don’t give a shit about a 4th rounder. The majority of NHL players come from rounds 1-3.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I mean don't get me wrong it's a REALLY nice trade in a vacuum and shows some rare sense and insight by the GM to address a need (f***ing TALENT) on this team without spending hardly anything (depending on how we feel about worthless draft picks, today).

But like... what difference does it realistically make? Who holds the lineup card and makes the decisions on where to put these guys to give them the "best chance" to succeed? Still the same guy? Great then I don't care.

 

[Zbynek]

For a Tolvanen situation to unfold you actually need to give the guy a shot - that's not only on coaching but the GM to force a spot for him on the roster too (for the trade to actually make sense).

We're still healthy scratching Puustinen but you guys want to get excited over this?

 

[Duffy13]

Had 20 in 41 last year with a little over 12 minutes per game. 7 goals 13 assists.

I'm pretty pessimistic of the coaching staff using him properly, if he's in the bottom 6 in a checking role, there should be massive red flags on how this team identifies the on ice talent.... I mean there already are massive red flags, but maybe add safety reflective tape to these red flags, mix in sos flags.... Anything god damn it!!!!

 

[Dominance]

Free top-6er for a decade if we handle him right. Fire Sullivan yesterday or he’ll be on Line 3 or 4 to start and scratched within 5 games.

 

[Gurglesons]

For a Tolvanen situation to unfold you actually need to give the guy a shot - that's not only on coaching but the GM to force a spot for him on the roster too (for the trade to actually make sense).

We're still healthy scratching Puustinen but you guys want to get excited over this?

Comparing Puustinen to Tomasino is a joke.

Tomasino has the exact skill set Sullivan loves to overplay.

 

[molon labe]

I think everyone can appreciate the move.

The debate comes over whether it matters at-all at this point. Dudes contract will come and go and he'll have gotten a total of 14.5 NHL games under Sullivan. Any thoughts of him coming in to boost Sid seem frivolous.

So if the intention is to somehow extend him - it'll be done blindly because the only chances he'll get under Sully will be a few games here and there for like 8 total minutes of defensive zone time flanked by offensively inept players.

 

[Pens1566]

Almost no risk, and possible decent reward. I can't see any negative to this at all.

 

[Zbynek]

Comparing Puustinen to Tomasino is a joke.

Tomasino has the exact skill set Sullivan loves to overplay.

I'm not directly comparing their skillsets (These guys obviously belong in different parts of the lineup) just their deservingness to actually play. Man you really actually believe Sullivan will play him!

 

[Malkinstheman]

Value wise its a great trade to make but he all know hes going to get like 7 points in the next 40 games and not get qualified. Then miraculously he will get picked up by someone like Tampa and get 40+ points next season.

 

[Gurglesons]

I'm not directly comparing their skillsets (These guys obviously belong in different parts of the lineup) just their deservingness to actually play. Man you really actually believe Sullivan will play him!

I don't think he has a choice.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I don't think he has a choice.

lol in what way?

Mike Sullivan does whatever he wants.

 

[Deport Ogie]

It's kind of a bummer overall that we've reached this special level of pessimism where they make a pretty decent trade with fair potential to be a solid W and no one gives a shit because we know how it will likely result.

 

[Gurglesons]

lol in what way?

Mike Sullivan does whatever he wants.

The top six is barren to the point he's been running Malkin - Crosby - Rakell. He obviously doesn't trust any of the players up there but Rust and Raks.

 

[Pancakes]

Sure why not for that price

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

All Tomasino has to do is ingratiate himself with Sid during one practice/shift and that's that. Sullivan or no, he'll be on Sid's wing. I think that's a big reason we've seen so much of Beau tbh. Sid likes playing with him. /shrug

Still think Sullivan's fired the moment the RS ends.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

The top six is barren to the point he's been running Malkin - Crosby - Rakell. He obviously doesn't trust any of the players up there but Rust and Raks.

You think he cares? Why would he try to help Malkin of all people?

As long as Crosby gets the best of whatever is left and he doesn't have to hear about it he doesn't give a shit.

 

[Gurglesons]

You think he cares?

As long as Crosby gets the best of whatever is left and he doesn't have to hear about it he doesn't give a shit.

I'm not sure what the question is here.

I think Sullivan doesn't want Beauvillier or Bunting in the top six. So, getting a player who has 100+ NHL games under his belt and has scored in the NHL, I think there is a better chance of seeing him play then Puustinen or any of these AHLers.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I'm not sure what the question is here.

I think Sullivan doesn't want Beauvillier or Bunting in the top six. So, getting a player who has 100+ NHL games under his belt and has scored in the NHL, I think there is a better chance of seeing him play then Puustinen or any of these AHLers.

Oh. I 100% disagree so I see the rub, here.

Bunting will get his chances due to simply the proximity to THAT trade and I think it's pretty obvious that Sullivan already loves him some Beau.

 

[Gurglesons]

Oh. I 100% disagree so I see the rub, here.

Bunting will get his chances due to simply the proximity to THAT trade and I think it's pretty obvious that Sullivan already loves him some Beau.

We shall see. Will be interesting and I'm just excited Dubas is actually making intelligent trades that match up with his "plan".