Line Combos: Pens 2022-2023 Training Camp thread: Its happenings

[Zirakzigil]

You'd have to run with 11 F and 7 D for 1 game and then you can use an emergency call-up. Not worth losing D depth for that minor of an issue.

No, youd have to play a player short to be able to use an emergency call up, so in other words dress 17 skaters instead of 18.

The issue is no one has forced managements hand, POJ has been garbage and the forward prospects have been decent to meh. Someone needed to step up and force their way on the team. Sadly no one did.

 

[Darren McCord]

If you start the season with 12 F and 8 D, you run the risk of a forward suffering an injury significant enough to miss a game but not significant enough for LTIR...and not having the cap space to call up a replacement. Which means you have to run a game shorthanded.

It's bad cap management.

Or Friedman jumps to wing. I don’t see the issue. If this team can’t deal with Friedman playing wing for a few games then it has no depth.

 

[Pens x]

Okay. Let's see how long he lasts in Calgary where they have 5 4th line wingers right now.

Let’s see how long Archibald lasts here playing awful like the idiots before him in Jank, Sceviour, Simon…the entire season until they get injured or another team takes their salary at the deadline.

Calgary at least holds players accountable if they suck. They told Simon to gtfo two years ago after it was as obvious he was terrible. Meanwhile, our fan base and local media constantly tried to find obscure stats to defend that idiot. And for god’s sake, we invited him on a PTO this year.

Our front office and coaching staff is lost, and had been so for several years.

Sure, it’s just a fourth liner but what else are these two clowns not picking up on? Inviting Simon to camp and keeping Archibald over Z are two recent examples.

 

[Darren McCord]

No, youd have to play a player short to be able to use an emergency call up, so in other words dress 17 skaters instead of 18.

The issue is no one has forced managements hand, POJ has been garbage and the forward prospects have been decent to meh. Someone needed to step up and force their way on the team. Sadly no one did.

Meh expecting some to pop off at camp in three games is asking a lot.

Forwards doesn’t matter. Puustinen could have looked like the second coming of Jake and they would have sent him down. This camp was not set up for players to get good looks or you would have seen guys like hallander and Poulin play with actually nhl talent instead of wbs lines.

Also POJ played one game with Kap in it and one game with Heinen in it. Did he even play a game with an NHL partner? I get he was as bad but how is that setting up players to succeed

 

[Gurglesons]

Let’s see how long Archibald lasts here playing awful like the idiots before him in Jank, Sceviour, Simon…the entire season until they get injured or another team takes their salary at the deadline.

Calgary at least holds players accountable if they suck. They told Simon to gtfo two years ago after it was as obvious he was terrible. Meanwhile, our fan base and local media constantly tried to find obscure stats to defend that idiot. And for god’s sake, we invited him on a PTO this year.

Our front office and coaching staff is lost, and had been so for several years.

Sure, it’s just a fourth liner but what else are these two clowns not picking up on? Inviting Simon to camp and keeping Archibald over Z are two recent examples.

Sceviour played 500 NHL games so lumping him in with Jack and Simon is odd.

I don't really know what your point is as usual. You don't make any points you just cry and whine like a literal child.

 

[mephisto1812]

I honestly think this whole roster situation got messy when the Penguins actually got Heinen to re-sign. I think they were fully going forward as if he wouldn't be here, which made retaining Kapanen make sense. But with Heinen sticking around, why keep Kapanen? But the issue is by the time Heinen signed, Kapanen had already filed for arbitration, so there was really no getting out of his deal.

Had they known Heinen was coming back, they could have not qualified Kapanen and have a 23 man roster of:

Guentzel-Crosby-Rakell
Zucker-Malkin-Rust
Heinen-Carter-McGinn
Poehling-Blueger-Archibald
Zohorna

Dumoulin-Letang
Pettersson-Petry
Smith-Rutta
Friedman-Ruhwedel

And you'd have about $2 million in cap space as far as I can tell.

I'm actually OK with them signing Kap.... granted, I may just be a masochist and this may blow up on me in quite a bad way. F me, but I keep holding out hope on him.

 

[Jacob]

I think they definitely overpaid for Archibald. Pretty sure based on the season he had, and the (lack of) interest around the league for similar players in ZAR and Caggiula, and then even Heinen who isn’t in the same mold, we could’ve gotten him for league minimum and maybe even 2-way if we waited. But obviously they wanted him. He brings some physicality for cheap and that’s aa need, so they probably decided to pay a couple hundred thousand to lock him up.

 

[Pens x]

Sceviour played 500 NHL games so lumping him in with Jack and Simon is odd.

I don't really know what your point is as usual. You don't make any points you just cry and whine like a literal child.

He played in a lot more games with us in a shortened season than with Edmonton this past year.

The point is that we rarely rid ourselves of these crappy players until they somehow play 60 games. Turds always seem to find a way to player under Sullivan. So, it might not seem like not that big of a deal to keep a guy like Archie around, but you know dman well they won’t send him packing regardless of how bad he is.

 

[Turin]

I don’t really care they lost Zohorna but it does seem like poor asset management on a small level.

 

[3ladesof5teel]

I don’t really care they lost Zohorna but it does seem like poor asset management on a small level.

It's an extremely small level. Z was undrafted and never scored more than 14 goals at ANY level in his career. Think about that

He did have a nice combo of size and skillset but it never really translated. We were never going to get anything out of him in a trade. The hope was his game would take another level and it hasn't been enough. He was extremely raw.

So if we want to nitpick sure but he was just a shiny toy with a hope he would become something

 

[WickedWrister]

Just saw saw the Zohorna news... where we meeting for the riots?

 

[dogthateats]

Wasn’t ESPN+ like $6 or $8 a month last season? $10 now
Edit: Looks like it was $7

ESPN Plus is about to get even more expensive

Solo ESPN Plus will cost $9.99 per month.

www.theverge.com

 

[Peat]

No, youd have to play a player short to be able to use an emergency call up, so in other words dress 17 skaters instead of 18.

Rules were changed, if you're short in a position you can call up a guy after one game, unless they've changed them back.

 

[LiffLaff]

Sceviour played 500 NHL games so lumping him in with Jack and Simon is odd.

I don't really know what your point is as usual. You don't make any points you just cry and whine like a literal child.

I don't post much, but I read the forum daily, and I have to say, this has to be the most annoying/childish poster Ive ever come across, keeps harping on the same dumb, emotionaly driven crap, all the while making the bords quality lessen dramatically just because you can t read half a page before theres more of the same "Mommy didn't buy me icecream so i hate everything now" type of writing.
Now im sure the mods would have done something if it was within their power, so, maybe we should all come together and ignore this asshat in unison, and then just lett him have his little "Hate rage conversations" all to him self.
Seems like the type of person who whould never admitt beeing wrong or take part in a normal conversation anyway so.

Just an idea..

 

[Empoleon8771]

The amount of shits I give about losing Zohorna to waivers was greatly decreased based on what I saw out of Poulin and Archibald today.

Who knows if Archibald can actually return to his past form, but he showed more in that preseason game than Zohorna showed in all of his preseason games.

 

[Pens x]

I don't post much, but I read the forum daily, and I have to say, this has to be the most annoying/childish poster Ive ever come across, keeps harping on the same dumb, emotionaly driven crap, all the while making the bords quality lessen dramatically just because you can t read half a page before theres more of the same "Mommy didn't buy me icecream so i hate everything now" type of writing.
Now im sure the mods would have done something if it was within their power, so, maybe we should all come together and ignore this asshat in unison, and then just lett him have his little "Hate rage conversations" all to him self.
Seems like the type of person who whould never admitt beeing wrong or take part in a normal conversation anyway so.

Just an idea..

I have no issues admitting when I’m wrong.

 

[LiffLaff]

The amount of shits I give about losing Zohorna to waivers was greatly decreased based on what I saw out of Poulin and Archibald today.

Who knows if Archibald can actually return to his past form, but he showed more in that preseason game than Zohorna showed in all of his preseason games.

While I don't expect much offence from Archie, he does have some decent speed and forchecking ability, and he seems to get under players skins at times, so I would'nt shed a single tear if he starts the season on the

 

[LiffLaff]

I have no issues admitting when I’m wrong.

But you never are right?

 

[Peat]

The amount of shits I give about losing Zohorna to waivers was greatly decreased based on what I saw out of Poulin and Archibald today.

Who knows if Archibald can actually return to his past form, but he showed more in that preseason game than Zohorna showed in all of his preseason games.

Poehling too. The guys who'll receive more opportunities for Zoho not being here looked good.

 

[Pens x]

But you never are right?

When it comes to Hextall and Sully, no. I’ve complimented Sleepy in the past after the Rakell trade, for example.

 

[LiffLaff]

When it comes to Hextall and Sully, no. I’ve complimented Sleepy in the past after the Rakell trade, for example.

Oh wow, a broken clock is right twice a day, do you want a medal for that or something? You know, when probably 80% of what you write is spitefull derogatory nonsens, the few good points you might make once in a while, it just gets lost as background noise, as no one takes posters like you seriously anyway.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Poehling too. The guys who'll receive more opportunities for Zoho not being here looked good.

Yeah Poehling looks very good at center as well. I'm confident with their bottom-6 centers going forward even if Blueger walks after the year. I really like Poulin as a potential 3C, possibly displacing Carter and moving him to the wing (not right now but for next year), and Poehling as the 4C.

I could feasibly see a Poulin-Carter-Kapanen and O'Connor-Poehling-McGinn bottom-6 to open the 2023-2024 season and I don't have any problems with it.

 

[Gurglesons]

I’m always right.

 

[Headshot77]

Disappointed we lost big Z for nothing. I bet he's going to pop off in Calgary's bottom six.

 

[3ladesof5teel]

Disappointed we lost big Z for nothing. I bet he's going to pop off in Calgary's bottom six.

Realistically what do you think we could have received for big Z?

A 6th round pick?