Game Analysis: Penalty Kill 2020-21
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Fitzy
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- Jan 29, 2009
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For someone who was brought in to kill penalties, Jack Johnson has been doing a piss poor job so far. Rooney has been great.
The soft spot so far has been the middle of the ice- NYR have been leaving it wide open for deflection attempts game after game.
The soft spot so far has been the middle of the ice- NYR have been leaving it wide open for deflection attempts game after game.
EdJovanovski
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Buchnevich is surprisingly fantastic at PK'ing
- Jan 18, 2012
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that really changes a lot of things. My gripe with him, or the team in general was that there's too many 'top6 oriented' players. Buch and even Kreider have been a nice surprise on the PK
What does the second chart actually show? I read the label and know what it's supposed to show but I have trouble interpreting it. Guy should change his handle to @IneffectiveCharts.
NYR94
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I think the size of the hexagon is how much ice time the player has on the PK and the thickness of the line between any two players increases the more time they spend on the ice together.
- Jul 6, 2017
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The PK looks good. Our PK forwards are more than fine. Our PK defensemen, specifically their defensive awareness, are our weakness. I’m looking at you, Trouba and Johnson.
I can't figure out what the point of the chart is at this point. It's completely incomprehensible.
- Jul 6, 2017
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I see that Johnson likely plays frequently with Trouba but still gets fewer minutes than Lindgren. Still, I do wonder why he gets more minutes than Miller on the PK, though our biggest weakness is actually on the right (chart 1) — which indicates Trouba is likely the true weak link, given his playing time relative to that of the other RDs (chart 2).
In short: Trouba sucks.
BKGooner
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- Jun 23, 2017
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The pk the Rangers are running should be advantageous to for forwards. It's predicated on constant motion and puck pressure to force turnovers or to keep the puck moving so no pp player gets an easy shot. The whole diamond should stretch toward the puck with one d anchoring the diamond. That anchor d should be limiting the shots from the soft spot Fitzy mentions. Since all 4 pk'ers are always moving it should help lead to offense when the opportunity is there, like that lovely shorty the other day.
How can two different sized hexagons be linked? How many shared minutes is that when each hexagon is a set amount of minutes, it's very confusing.
Edit: I guess it's based on how fat the links are.
These charts are a bunch of nerds that think they're smarter than they are and have poor self awareness.
I'm surprised as well but thinking about it we shouldn't be. He's always anticipating well and getting great chances offensively. Just has a hard time finishing his chances. Anticipation on the PK has been great and just getting in the way is enough.
I appreciate the efforts, but there are better ways to dimensionalize information. I think with DeAngelo being moved on from, getting a defensive player, and slotting guys differently should have a greater impact.
Can Gauthier kill penalties? With that size and speed, he would be effective. IMHO the analytics on the PK read to me as this: Speed & Hustle Kills. The bigger guys have more space to pressure. More room to maximize each stride. More space to carry the puck, and you're usually only going to have to beat one guy off the rush. Kreider should be a lead PKer. He's smart and fast enough to force the play wide and out with a few strides. Mika torched the league 5v5 that way.
Blackwell could end up being a very effective PKer as well. Especially if he can take draws.
Can Gauthier kill penalties? With that size and speed, he would be effective. IMHO the analytics on the PK read to me as this: Speed & Hustle Kills. The bigger guys have more space to pressure. More room to maximize each stride. More space to carry the puck, and you're usually only going to have to beat one guy off the rush. Kreider should be a lead PKer. He's smart and fast enough to force the play wide and out with a few strides. Mika torched the league 5v5 that way.
Blackwell could end up being a very effective PKer as well. Especially if he can take draws.
- Jul 6, 2017
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They can be linked because partners change. You can have Trouba playing PK1 the whole time with his partner changing game to game (for example).
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Size of hexagon = ice-time
Size of lines = shared ice-time
Maybe I’m just a visual thinker but it’s clear for me?
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I mean if you guys have a better way to depict this information, by all means, saved me the trouble of copy/pasting back and forth. 
Yeah, I think I kind of figured it out later. It didn't realize the lines were also a factor until later.
The PK has definitely improved but blocking shots is a huge part of it.
If you're gonna post charts, why wouldn't you account it?
If you're gonna post charts, why wouldn't you account it?
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It's a bit goofy. I mean, a spreadsheet might have been easier to see the info but advanced stats = advaaaaanced graphs.
I personally don't understand what % availability means. Is that the % of time they were standing around not actively engaged in the play and thus available or open?
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Sorry I would have added some notes but honestly I was just bored on my lunch break and made this thread on my phone.
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SA16
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I'm a little confused what's so confusing about the charts? There's a legend that explains the meaning of the hexagons and lines right on the page...Seems incredibly obvious to me and I am someone who prefers just looking at the raw numbers to any sort of visual aid.
