Patrick O'Sullivan is on fire!!!
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Heat McManus
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People keep talking about attitude problems, but it seems the issue was more of mental stability. Once his dad was removed from the picture he's been able to focus on not just hockey, but being a normal 18 year old. I agree, he was a STEAL!
I think O'Sullivan and Parise will be the 2 steals of the 03 draft.
I think O'Sullivan and Parise will be the 2 steals of the 03 draft.
I still can't believe he dropped that far. Still upset Calgary didn't take a chance on this guy when we had two second round picks and on top of that he ends up going to Minnesota. Aaah, anyway Minnesota's got a good player in O'Sullivan, the attitude garbage was blown way out of proportion.
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MeffyuhTJRest said:
I made similar comments on the Oilers board that I sure would have been much happier with Parise, O' Sullivan than Pouliot, McDonald.
Sometimes the teams should forget the attitude problem and look for the skills, that what's the Vikings did when they pick Randy Moss and maybe he has some attitude problem, but is he good?? sure one of the best wr in the nfl
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Slats432
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Douggy said:Why couldn't he have fallen one more spot to Toronto?
You actually think they would have grabbed him?
I sure hope he works out... we need the help. It's great to see that he's getting success this year. But, that recent two game suspension for some team rules violation still leaves a little room for concern on the attitude/stability front, IMO. I'm sure it's no big deal, but it's one of those things... after all the rumors, you'd think the guy would be doing his damndest to walk a straight line, you know?
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Remember that you're dealing with an 18-year-old kid who stayed out too late with two friends (which, from what I gather, is the reason for all three to be suspended). Which of us hasn't done that? I give him credit for dealing with it professionally and stating that they made a mistake and are paying for it - end of story.ceber said:
Brock
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Saw him play this past Sunday, caught the Ice Dogs and 67's game.
He was by far the best player on the ice and made something happen everytime he was out there. His skating looks much improved from last year as well. He still isn't much for the physical side of the game, or defensively for that matter, but that's not his game. You can teach defense, you can't teach the extreme amount of offensive skill he possesses.
Just a side note, Corey Locke didn't impress me at all.
He was by far the best player on the ice and made something happen everytime he was out there. His skating looks much improved from last year as well. He still isn't much for the physical side of the game, or defensively for that matter, but that's not his game. You can teach defense, you can't teach the extreme amount of offensive skill he possesses.
Just a side note, Corey Locke didn't impress me at all.
IMO I think O'Sullivan is overrated... yeah that's right, not underrated but overrated. Granted, he has offensive upside, but that alone won't get you a job in the NHL- especially in todays NHL). Sooooo many players have come and gone (quickly) just for that reason alone. I don't think he has an attitude problem, he has had problems with his Dad in the past (but who wasn't) that are now behind him, he gets a 3 game (team) suspension for staying past curfew (he's an 18 years old kid playing junior hockey in Canada where he, along with this teammates are, are GODS). Its not his attitude I have a problem with, I think he does have the all-round game that an NHLer has to have today. There is way more downside in his game then upside and that alone is the reason you'll never see him in the NHL - a great AHLer or if he can learn to live with not being the number 1 hombre on the team, he might pan out to be like a Daigle (who took 10 years to find an all-round game).
O'Sullivan is a one dimensional player, and not even the best (or close to) in that dimension. Patrick, who has been tagged the next great thing since an early age (NO player should have that burden to carry with them at such a young age) has to realize that he needs to develop into more of a complete player to play in that greatest Hockey League in the world, either he wasn't noticed the flaws in his game or he doesn't want to try to make them better?!? or who knows, maybe he can't?
*nothing against Daigle, he not only turned into an all-round player but is doing it with the best all-round team*
O'Sullivan is a one dimensional player, and not even the best (or close to) in that dimension. Patrick, who has been tagged the next great thing since an early age (NO player should have that burden to carry with them at such a young age) has to realize that he needs to develop into more of a complete player to play in that greatest Hockey League in the world, either he wasn't noticed the flaws in his game or he doesn't want to try to make them better?!? or who knows, maybe he can't?
*nothing against Daigle, he not only turned into an all-round player but is doing it with the best all-round team*
The thing about O'Sullivan is, he is willing to learn. He loved Lemaire and his training. His game will come around with Lemaire.
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thestonedkoala said:
I agree with the Lamaire factor, but Lamaire can't just be spending time with O'Sullivan teaching him how to be an all-round player, he has a team to run... and, if O'Sullivan is willing to learn, why hasn't thus far?
cuz he can't. Some players just dont have a complete game, and O'Sullivan doesn't and won't any time soon.
Actually O'Sullivan is learning what all Lemaire's players are learning good solid defense. O'Sullivan said when he came back from camp, he learned more in camp then he did in the OHL about defense and he started to play a little better not great. I mean I can see O'Sullivan being a bit like Kovalchuk.
I feel the exact same way... i was so excited until minny made their picDouggy said:
thestonedkoala said:
He might of learned more from a camp with the likes of Lamaire then he will ever learn in the O, but he's offensive up-side (that is what everyone thinks will get him into the NHL) isn't close to the top prospects, and him having the offense that a Kovalchuk has is not only far fetched but also crazy. O'Sullivan's offense (which, again, is all he has) is not even close to alot of the kids coming up (I would put 50 or so guys better offensively before O'Sullivan)
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rinkrat13 said:
I don't see your logic.
There are dozens of players who learn much later than that.
I am not saying O'Sullivan is going to be half of what Kovalchuk is but he'll put up numbers especially on the Wild.
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Charlie_Girl49 said:
i thought he was sent home for stealing a synergy??
anyways, nothign will ever top his dad forging the papers when he was 13!
way to go john! haha Is it true he got a restraining order on his own father?
Vlad The Impaler
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JNRhockeyGURU said:
Yup. There was even increased security at the draft because of his conflicts with his father.
O'Sullivan and the Minnesota Wild are a perfect fit for each other. O'Sullivan will be that great offensive player that compliments Gaborik, and Minnesota will teach him to play defense. I really think this kid will come along way in the next 2 years. I honestly believe that he will be a point-a-game player in the NHL.
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