Confirmed with Link: Pat Maroon to NJ for 2019 3rd and J. D. Dudek

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glenwo2

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All I know is that if we somehow win a Stanley Cup this year after just being off the NHL radar since 2012, after the Rags were the overhyped darling that everybody wanted to be traded to and that every pundit was predicting to win the Cup EVERY YEAR for quite some time, Rangers fans will go into witness protection. They will be shell shocked. Gobsmacked. Paralyzed.

Not that it's likely to happen but if it somehow all comes together. WOW


If we win a Stanley Cup this year, a statue of Ray Shero should be placed outside next to Marty's. :D :D :D
 

glenwo2

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A picture of Ray Shero at work :



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IN SHERO WE TRUST.
 

CupofOil

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Oiler fan here chiming in on Maroon. Great character guy, fun personality, has some surprisingly good hands for a big guy and is a monster along the boards when he puts in the effort but he needs to play with skill to be effective. He tends to float a lot when he's playing on a lower line.
In any event, it's a great pickup for that price and good luck to you guys. One of my favorite secondary teams.
 

Shakir ONeal

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Getting him for a 3rd in itself is a good deal but I just trust this scouting staff that I am not even that upset we gave a 2nd for grabner either

I know it’s only been two years and likely too early to tell but it looks like they have already made some solid later round picks obviously starting with Bratt.
Joey A, Davies, Rykov (even tho hes gone), Maltsev, Walsh all looking like great value so far. Only pick I wasnt that crazy about was Bastian but realize he may take longer to develop
 

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Getting him for a 3rd in itself is a good deal but I just trust this scouting staff that I am not even that upset we gave a 2nd for grabner either

I know it’s only been two years and likely too early to tell but it looks like they have already made some solid later round picks obviously starting with Bratt.
Joey A, Davies, Rykov (even tho hes gone), Maltsev, Walsh all looking like great value so far. Only pick I wasnt that crazy about was Bastian but realize he may take longer to develop

The way I look at it, we got two solid players to help for a playoff run for a couple of picks that more than likely won't amount to anything and two prospects who may never play in the NHL. If any of the assets we gave up ending up being good players, so be it. This run to the playoffs is invaluable experience for the kids and especially Hall, who has still yet to play a playoff game. The price is well worth it.
 

Shakir ONeal

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The way I look at it, we got two solid players to help for a playoff run for a couple of picks that more than likely won't amount to anything and two prospects who may never play in the NHL. If any of the assets we gave up ending up being good players, so be it. This run to the playoffs is invaluable experience for the kids and especially Hall, who has still yet to play a playoff game. The price is well worth it.

Yup that is the most important aspect of these I agree. Maroon gives us something we’ve been missing as our guys have been pushed around way too often this 2nd half so far
 

BenedictGomez

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For all this talk that, "Maroon's numbers are inflated due to Connor McDavid", which I've heard approximately 3,827 times in the last 10 hours, his points per 60 is actually WORST while playing with McDavid. Stick a fork in that narrative, it's done.

Here's the numbers among the 3 centers he's played at least 200 minutes with this year

MAROON 2017-2018 Points/60 by Center
Ryan Nuge-Hop 2.32
Leon Draisaitl 2.11
Connor McDavid 1.78

Patrick Maroon - Teammates - Individual - Natural Stat Trick
 
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I feel like as another GM, if Ray is calling you need to question the situation you are in. He isn’t calling without the high ground.

In this case though, Maroon is a pending UFA. EDM isn't making the playoffs, so it was take the third or nothing at all.

Shero got great value while other teams were paying huge prices (dat Tatar trade... WTF?) but in the absence of other buyers, EDM has one more 2019 3rd rounder.
 

Bleedred

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Devils Organization sends a goodbye cake to prospect sent for Maroon
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Damn

I thought this was legit until I saw “Sorry.... what was your name?”

I was like “that’s cute. We’ve never done that for another traded prospect before” haha.
 
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Damn, I really, really love this trade. When the Grabner trade happened I went a little off the deep end because I like Rykov, but once I calmed down a little, I thought 'okay, if we're going to load up for a run this year, let's get another piece. I was thinking along the lines of Kane, or maybe even EK, but this is great. We get to replace another stiff with an entirely decent scoring wing that has size and can win board battles. If we get Gibbons back and Bratt finds his game again, this team can be very, very dangerous. Adding Marjo for the playoffs would be the icing on the cake.

Hall-Hischier-Palmieri
Maroon-Zacha-Bratt
Wood-Zajac-Johansson
Gibbons-Coleman-Noesen

3 legit scoring lines and a fast and greasy 4th line that can also score. We've been beating good teams all year. Just needed that consistency. Now we're getting back our goaltender. Good time to go on a run.

For all this talk that, "Maroon's numbers are inflated due to Connor McDavid", which I've heard approximately 3,827 times in the last 10 hours, his points per 60 is actually WORST while playing with McDavid. Stick a fork in that narrative, it's done.

Here's the numbers among the 3 centers he's played at least 200 minutes with this year

MAROON 2017-2018 Points/60 by Center
Ryan Nuge-Hop 2.32
Leon Draisaitl 2.11
Connor McDavid 1.78

Patrick Maroon - Teammates - Individual - Natural Stat Trick

My favorite thing is when players are criticized for playing with good linemates. I guess your points only count if you're playing with Devante Smith-Pelly and Jacob Josefson. Even if he had played most of the year with 97, he still scored those goals. What, McD was bouncing the puck off his stick? Please.
 

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Maroon was a 30-35 point per year guy before McDavid and him even played for the same team, so McDavid probably made him better, but not THAT much better.
 

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Maroon was a 30-35 point per year guy before McDavid and him even played for the same team, so McDavid probably made him better, but not THAT much better.

He's a career .5 ppg guy, but skewed towards goals. That's actually top 6 production if you look up the stats (i.e. top 180 forwards in the league). We actually only have 3 forwards that are significantly above .5 ppg. Hall, Hischier, and Palmieri. Everyone else is right around .5ppg or significantly less.

This guy ain't no plug. Plus, he's filling a dire need that we have, so there's a very good chance he could gel here and produce more than he did in Edmonton or Anaheim.
 

Emperoreddy

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Damn, I really, really love this trade. When the Grabner trade happened I went a little off the deep end because I like Rykov, but once I calmed down a little, I thought 'okay, if we're going to load up for a run this year, let's get another piece. I was thinking along the lines of Kane, or maybe even EK, but this is great. We get to replace another stiff with an entirely decent scoring wing that has size and can win board battles. If we get Gibbons back and Bratt finds his game again, this team can be very, very dangerous. Adding Marjo for the playoffs would be the icing on the cake.

Hall-Hischier-Palmieri
Maroon-Zacha-Bratt
Wood-Zajac-Johansson
Gibbons-Coleman-Noesen

3 legit scoring lines and a fast and greasy 4th line that can also score. We've been beating good teams all year. Just needed that consistency. Now we're getting back our goaltender. Good time to go on a run.



My favorite thing is when players are criticized for playing with good linemates. I guess your points only count if you're playing with Devante Smith-Pelly and Jacob Josefson. Even if he had played most of the year with 97, he still scored those goals. What, McD was bouncing the puck off his stick? Please.

Where did Grabner go? He isn’t in your lineup
 

Emperoreddy

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He just seems like the perfect guy play with Zajac, and I think we would be better served with him in the bottom 6 overall.

I know the Oiler fans say he needs skill, but idk. Just seems like his style fits there better.
 

Japam

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When this deal went down and I looked him up I was convinced that between his stat lines and what was given up for everyone else yesterday that JQ was involved in this. Add to the fact the TSN trade tracker crashed and this board was down most of the day and I thought for sure that's what was going to be given up. Luckily it wasn't.
 

njdevil26

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I love how Shero said it materialized in the last 10 minutes before the deadline. He waited for an opportunity and pounced.

It comes to the point where GM's stomach's probably drop when they hear he's on the phone.

"Hello Mr GM... we have Ray Shero on the line for you."

"Oh...."
 

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