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Part 2 2014 Flyers' Draft Talk [times and TV info in first post]

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Striiker said:
I seriously want them to take a forward, I'd honestly be kinda disappointed to see another defender when we need forward prospects so badly. Ideally, they take high potential forwards with the 1st and 2nd round picks and then maybe a goalie and the rest are defenders.
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Any forward other than a Center! Flyers have enough at that position and they have enough D prospects at the moment.
 
Striiker said:
I seriously want them to take a forward, I'd honestly be kinda disappointed to see another defender when we need forward prospects so badly. Ideally, they take high potential forwards with the 1st and 2nd round picks and then maybe a goalie and the rest are defenders.
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Most of the forwards in this draft seem to a couple years away from becoming legitimate NHL players. Drafting for need when we don't know what our roster is going to look like by then is a bad idea, in my opinion. I of course wouldn't be upset if we DID draft a forward; I just think we should be going BPA this year.

We also don't know how the situation with Gostibehere, Hagg, and Morin is going to shake out. I'd love for all three of them to fulfill their potential and become impact players someday, but on the flip side, it may never happen for any one of them. I think Sanheim is a real dynamic player, and the Flyers like those late risers, so I wouldn't be upset. I don't think it can hurt to have too many good defensemen.
 
Funf said:
Most of the forwards in this draft seem to a couple years away from becoming legitimate NHL players. Drafting for need when we don't know what our roster is going to look like by then is a bad idea, in my opinion. I of course wouldn't be upset if we DID draft a forward; I just think we should be going BPA this year.

We also don't know how the situation with Gostibehere, Hagg, and Morin is going to shake out. I'd love for all three of them to fulfill their potential and become impact players someday, but on the flip side, it may never happen for any one of them. I think Sanheim is a real dynamic player, and the Flyers like those late risers, so I wouldn't be upset. I don't think it can hurt to have too many good defensemen.
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That's what I'm saying, I'd bet the BPA at our pick is going to be a forward and I'd rather they pick him than pick a defender just because we need defensemen right now.
 
My dream is to trade Lecavalier + 48 for a pick in the back half of the first round. Then assess what's there and make a judgment call. Maybe you walk away with a high potential winger and a defender like McKeown or Sanheim or Pettersson.

Maybe you even walk away with Milano+Tuch. That would be awesome. Instant chemistry.
 
Jtown said:
you can.
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As long as you're not neglecting the forwards, you certainly can not. It's one thing to horde defensemen like Nashville without regard to your forwards, but it's another to have a solid stable of forwards and a collection of defensemen.

With forwards, I would imagine high picks correlate strongly with franchise forwards. I'm not sure how strong the correlation is with high picks and franchise defenders, though. They're like lottery picks. You have to collect enough to have a reasonable chance of winning out.
 
You only have so many premium picks. Why waste a premium selection on a guy who will be a 3rd pairing dman?

Instead use that pick for a forward who can help you out more. Imo you need 9 forwards that can be a threat to score. In the playoffs when teams get deeper and deeper their 3rd pairing rarely gets ice time a la 2010.

All you need are 4 solid dmen. And a third pairing that isnt bartulis and parent.
 
Tpinheiro4 said:
Then trade a defender... this is very simple.
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There's no guarantee they all pan out so what do you do if the defenders you picked aren't worth much in a trade? Trade the few that are? What if you miss out on a great forward because you're too worried about getting defenseman?

The point is there should be a balance. Having too much of either is bad because then you end up as either Edmonton or Nashville.
 
I'd rather have too many defensive prospects than too many forwards. 2 years of not drafting a forward in the first round, especially when they're years away from actually playing & contributing shouldn't be a huge deal. We still have Laughton and Leier in the ranks, who look promising. And don't forget that Couts and Schenn are real young, too.

And with the way the league is today, you can just about name your price when trading defensemen.

But like I said, this is a year to go BPA. The chances of grabbing a franchise dman, or a franchise forward at 17 in this draft is slim to none, but I think you have to go with whoever has that upside.
 
I really couldn't care less if it's a winger or defensemen to be honest.

I had a feeling Sanheim was going to take a big jump on Button's list similar to Morin last year. I wasn't expecting #8 but this draft is a lot more wide open than last year.

Sanheim interviewed with all 30 teams at the combine so he's got a lot of league interest right now.
 
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hockeyfreak7 said:
My dream is to trade Lecavalier + 48 for a pick in the back half of the first round. Then assess what's there and make a judgment call. Maybe you walk away with a high potential winger and a defender like McKeown or Sanheim or Pettersson.

Maybe you even walk away with Milano+Tuch. That would be awesome. Instant chemistry.
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How about Vinny+48 for Tampas 19? (Tuch&Larkin)
Or Vinny+17 for Nashvilles 11? (Virtanen)
Or Vinny for Tampas/Nashvilles second rounder?
 
JayB said:
How about Vinny+48 for Tampas 19? (Tuch&Larkin)
Or Vinny+17 for Nashvilles 11? (Virtanen)
Or Vinny for Tampas/Nashvilles second rounder?
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I dont get the first move...why would you trade Vinny+48 to drop 2 spots in the draft?
Unless you mean to dump Vinny all together.
Virtanen is as high as 6th(Canucks) now.
 
hockeyfreak7 said:
My dream is to trade Lecavalier + 48 for a pick in the back half of the first round. Then assess what's there and make a judgment call. Maybe you walk away with a high potential winger and a defender like McKeown or Sanheim or Pettersson.

Maybe you even walk away with Milano+Tuch. That would be awesome. Instant chemistry.
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If we could trade up into the lower half of the 1st I'd target Pettersson. I think he's going to end up being a steal.
 
FlyersFanz said:
That would make more sense...not sure if its possible though...just wondering why TB would want Vinny back or if Vinny would waive for TB after being a buyout..
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Perhaps it'd be more realistic to do

Lecavalier + 48 to MTL for 26 and take Marcus Pettersson.

Take one of Virtanen, Richie, Perlini, Milano or Tuch with 17.
 
The only two teams (picking after 17) who might have any kind of interest at all in Lecavalier are Montreal and Anaheim.

The hope would be that they consider the field from 24-48 to be relatively even (which is not a stretch in this draft).

I agree with Pettersson being a potential late 1st who would bring tremendous value. But if we pick Milano at 17, and Tuch were to be on the board with a potentially acquired pick, that would be so, so hard for me to pass up.
 
SolidSnakeUS said:
Why wouldn't the Preds have interest in Vinny?
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There were a few rumors earlier after our lose to the Rangers that they were interested in him with Lavy being their new head coach. Lavy pulled for him big time in Philly and now speculation is he will do it again in Nashville. There were a couple of credible reports though saying it's a possibility and then some saying things like "Vinny for Josi"

I think he would be their best center to be honest with you. He could revert back to a 50+ center who could help that team desperately with offense. Also wouldn't hurt having his work ethic there to show the younger kids on the team how to make it last in the NHL.

Realistically if they come calling, I could see these types of trades going down.

Vinny for

1) 2nd rounder this year, 3rd rounder(maybe second 2015)
2) For Del Zotto straight up(wouldn't touch it)
3) I would try to get Ekholm from them.
4) Weber
 
SolidSnakeUS said:
Why wouldn't the Preds have interest in Vinny?
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They probably would, but I want to use him to acquire another 1st rounder. No chance we pick up their 11th pick unless we're also giving up our 17th+Lecavalier, and I don't see any reason to do that.
 
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