In a weird way it could help. He can put, I would imagine, be expected, to put some muscle on. He'll have a blank slate to build up from. Harder to put muscle on when younger. Metabolism is nuts. Us older guys with slower metabolism gain weight easier, but because I keep more, I can choose to turn it into muscle with low cardo, low rep, high weight if I train my body consistently to use it.
Part 2 2014 Flyers' Draft Talk [times and TV info in first post]
- Thread starter MiamiScreamingEagles
- Start date
-
Xenforo Cloud will be upgrading us to version 2.3.5 on March 3rd at 12 AM GMT. This version has increased stability and fixes several bugs. We expect downtime for the duration of the update. The admin team will continue to work on existing issues, templates and upgrade all necessary available addons to minimize impact of this new version. Click Here for Updates
- Status
In a weird way it could help. He can put, I would imagine, be expected, to put some muscle on. He'll have a blank slate to build up from. Harder to put muscle on when younger. Metabolism is nuts. Us older guys with slower metabolism gain weight easier, but because I keep more, I can choose to turn it into muscle with low cardo, low rep, high weight if I train my body consistently to use it.
LegionOfDoom91
Registered User
If I remember correctly they had him in the 20's on their last release of rankings.
Craig Button releases his list tomorrow for anyone wondering. Personally I put the most stock in his & McKenzie's lists out of all the public scouting publications.
Random Forest
Registered User
- May 12, 2010
- 14,638
- 1,334
I think I'll be most disappointed if both Fiala and Milano are available at our pick. Between the two, I'd be so confused given the choice. Love them both. 
I think I'd have to go Milano. I find it extremely hard to see bust potential in a highly ranked skater going to BC.
EDIT: Yeah, I want no part of Kapanen. Just doesn't seem like a very dynamic player. I'll be a little sour if they pick him just to excite the hometown crowd.
I think I'd have to go Milano. I find it extremely hard to see bust potential in a highly ranked skater going to BC.
EDIT: Yeah, I want no part of Kapanen. Just doesn't seem like a very dynamic player. I'll be a little sour if they pick him just to excite the hometown crowd.
Striiker
Former Flyers Fan
The two of them are pretty spot on with their lists. I think Button was the one who called that we were going to pick Morin last year and I think it was McKenzie who said the Flyers were going to pick Morin as they walked up to the stage prior to the announcement.
Eh Buttons list can be half good half bad. I remember he was the only guy who had Risto ranked outside the top 10, and had him in the 20s going into the draft. Buttons rankings are what he thinks the final potential will be if I am not mistaken.
LegionOfDoom91
Registered User
Well he does his by himself unlike McKenzie, ISS, & CS so he's going to have more outlier's compared to those lists. However yes he does his rankings based off how he thinks they turn out as pro's down the road & not necessarily where they'll go.
He had Ristolanien 25th in his final rankings but had him going 14th in his final mock draft. He said all year though in his chats that he would go way higher in the draft compared to his ranking. He didn't like Ristolanien's upside & liked other defensemen's more in a pretty good draft for defensemen.
Anyway when I said "put the most stock" I meant that by being intrigued by them the most. I don't try to piece together things because after the first couple of picks these lists never go according to plan.
Last edited:
Stizzle
Registered User
- Feb 3, 2012
- 13,209
- 23,195
Yeah, Button did a mock draft show on NHL Network the night before the draft. He had us taking Morin. He seemed confident about it. It didn't seem like a big secret who we liked. Montreal tried to jump over us to get him, so they probably knew. I think Meltzer said Montreal tried to get the Devils pick at 9 before they traded it to the Canucks. Then on Flight Plan, they obviously showed Montreal trying to trade with us to take Morin as well.
FLYguy3911
Sanheim Lover
- Oct 19, 2006
- 55,591
- 92,153
Curufinwe
Registered User
- Feb 28, 2013
- 57,675
- 46,902
LegionOfDoom91
Registered User
He was asked the question frequently throughout all last year during his chats & said Ristolanien would go a lot higher than he had him on his list. His intention was to never nail down Ristolanien's draft position when making his list. It was the same story with Ryan Murray in 2012.
It was a good draft class for defensemen both years & last year he liked Jones', Nurse's, Zadorov's, Morin's, & Morrissey's upside a lot better than Ristolanien's. He's neither right nor wrong about it at this stage.
Last edited:
CanuckistanFlyerfan
Registered User
- May 10, 2005
- 2,769
- 1,352
That's a comment that could be used more often regarding prospects, especially ones not even a year into their draft class.
daynus
Registered User
so who is gonna do a pole
for our first round pick, or who do we think we will pick with our selections.
at this moment, i am not going power forward, i am guessing we will take robby fabri with pick 17.
for our first round pick, or who do we think we will pick with our selections.
at this moment, i am not going power forward, i am guessing we will take robby fabri with pick 17.
Who we hope or think they will?
I am riding the Milano train right now. Either him, Fiala, or Tuch for me.
What I think they are going to do? i think they take a big tall powerfoward who is ranked 20-30. Who that is I dont know though.
Honestly, I think Milano would be a much safer pick than Fiala and Tuch. While Tuch's legs and size fits into the gameplan that Hexy would want, I think that Milano's speed, skill, reach (for his size) and tenacity would do wonders for this team, especially since he's a LW.
LegionOfDoom91
Registered User
Tuch is probably the only one of those three that likely could play a bottom 6 role for a long period of time if the offensive doesn't go to plan because his size, skating, & physicality. He would have an easier time redefining his game similar to like Brian Boyle did over the years after being a higher pick. So in that sense I would actually say he's the safer player of the three.
Random Forest
Registered User
- May 12, 2010
- 14,638
- 1,334
I would agree, though I think Fiala will prove to be a great value pick for whoever takes him in the teens. He's a quick but stocky winger with lots of skill, and he had a real solid year playing with the men in Sweden. I honestly would not be shocked if he makes an NHL team in October. Milano and Tuch are safe picks though just on the fact that they're going to be developing at BC (edit: and like LOD said above, Tuch's size and skating make him probably the safest bet to stick even if it's in a less rewarding role).
I'd say the following players are guaranteed to be off the board at 17: Ekblad, Reinhart, Bennett, Draisaitl, Dal Colle, Ehlers, Nylander, Virtanen, Ritchie, and Fleury.
That means, of the massive clump of players in the mid-round range, six should be off the board by our pick. I can see teams loving players like McCann, Larkin, and Fabbri and picking them up in that range, and I can't see Kapanen or Perlini falling into the 20s or late teens even though it sounds like Kapanen's stock is falling. Then if a team wants D, McKeown, DeAngelo, and Pettersson are also players who could be taken in that range.
So the chances are high that at least one of Milano, Fiala, or Tuch would be available. And I'd say it's almost certain that Vrana (another guy I'm high on) will be available. It's shaping up for us to have a handful of players to pick from that would all make sense at #17.
This draft is not weak at all. I don't know why that's the prevailing opinion. Just because there's no MacKinnon this year doesn't mean the rest of the draft is weaker than previous years.
Prongo
Beer
Hopefully we have the opportunity to move up and grab Ehlers. He is the player I want from this draft. Dynamic winger who would make an impact as early as 2015 season. I think he has the potential to be one of the better players drafted this year.
Button just said on the radio that some teams have Nylander/Ehlers in the top 3 on their boards(paraphrasing)
Button just said on the radio that some teams have Nylander/Ehlers in the top 3 on their boards(paraphrasing)
Last edited:
Stizzle
Registered User
- Feb 3, 2012
- 13,209
- 23,195
FlyTimmo
pit <3
- Jul 10, 2013
- 12,457
- 10,525
That is pretty funny. I actually prefer Kapanen and Fabbri to Fiala.
Roo Mad Bro
U havin a giggle m8?
Striiker
Former Flyers Fan
It'd be great if the Flyers can draft an American forward so when he becomes an all-star and an Olympian I have even more reason to watch the games. It's kinda tough to want any team to win if they don't have any Flyers on it.
- Status
