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Part 2 2014 Flyers' Draft Talk [times and TV info in first post]

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Not really sure where to put this, so I'm going to guess here.

I was driving by Wells Fargo on my way to work this morning, and the road sign outside mentioned something about a tree planting ceremony at 1:00, and welcoming Gary Bettman. Couldn't find any info online, other than the NHL planted a bunch of trees outside Prudential last year. Anyone know any more information?
 
Dreger: Florida is considering a number of trade options for the 1st pick, including teams outside the top 10 offering current NHL players...
11:12am - 27 Jun 14

Oh Hexy, please don't sell the farm.
 
Hextall said he is going to keep picks and keep young players. Why does everybody think he's going to trade several 22 year olds and first rounders?

That is the EXACT opposite of what he said he wants to do and how they did it in LA.
 
Hiesenberg said:
Hextall said he is going to keep picks and keep young players. Why does everybody think he's going to trade several 22 year olds and first rounders?

That is the EXACT opposite of what he said he wants to do and how they did it in LA.
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I'm pretty sure he just said he wouldn't trade them for older players. Evander Kane is only 22 and Ekblad is 18.
 
duffy9748 said:
I'm pretty sure he just said he wouldn't trade them for older players. Evander Kane is only 22 and Ekblad is 18.
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Trading multiple pieces for 1 player doesn't help create depth.

If he thinks the #17 pick + player is worth Kane, then ok. You basically have to figure out is Kane better than who you get there.

Getting from 17 to 1 would cause a disaster of assets. You are talking a main piece like Schenn/Couts/Simmons + 17 + Morin/Hagg/Ghost + Future Picks
 
@FPTimCampbell: Follow to Thurs circus -- hearing that #NHLFlyers have next to no interest in Evander Kane of the #NHLJets. #bn
 
Hiesenberg said:
Trading multiple pieces for 1 player doesn't help create depth.

If he thinks the #17 pick + player is worth Kane, then ok. You basically have to figure out is Kane better than who you get there.

Getting from 17 to 1 would cause a disaster of assets. You are talking a main piece like Schenn/Couts/Simmons + 17 + Morin/Hagg/Ghost + Future Picks
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Not saying I would do it, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hextall is looking at it differently.
 
It makes basically no sense for us to trade up significantly. Why would we trade actual talent (Simmonds, Coburn, Voracek...) for future talent when we have a superstar center (believe me, you don't always have a Claude Giroux on your team) in his prime and a young core soon to hit their better years? Our core will be very, very good in 2-3 years. We have to target that period to be serious contenders. We obviously need a number 1 defenseman, but we need one now, not in 5 years. That means that we have to get an already established defenseman. We either have to trade for him, or to sign him as a free-agent.
 
I'd be surprised if FLA trades #1. Every year there is all this intrigue about whether or not the team with the pick will trade the pick and I honestly don't remember the last time it happened. Sedins?
 
DrinkFightFlyers said:
I'd be surprised if FLA trades #1. Every year there is all this intrigue about whether or not the team with the pick will trade the pick and I honestly don't remember the last time it happened. Sedins?
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There is a lot more buzz this year than I can ever recall. I'd say the chances it's dealt are significantly higher than in the recent past.
 
Stizzle said:
I don't think you realize what you are saying, sir. Please aquire better knowledge of hockey. I'm putting this as nicely as possible.
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You are missing the point. The first post was reiterating that there was a proposal that was "above and beyond" for the #1 overall. Secondly, I was a big Couterier fan a few years back. If he can be part of a package that gets you a legit scoring winger, then you do it! Runner up for the Selke? Great! We need to put the puck in the net. I would love for him to return to his rookie season form but he looks like Hanzues reborn.
 
King Fish said:
You are missing the point. The first post was reiterating that there was a proposal that was "above and beyond" for the #1 overall. Secondly, I was a big Couterier fan a few years back. If he can be part of a package that gets you a legit scoring winger, then you do it! Runner up for the Selke? Great! We need to put the puck in the net. I would love for him to return to his rookie season form but he looks like Hanzues reborn.
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Return to his rookie form? Last year was his best season offensively and defensively.

That report on the package "above and beyond" was probably ********. We'd be hearing a lot more on it if it were true. Tallon has taken to the media a couple of times now to drum up interest in that pick. My guess is that teams aren't willing to pony up for the pick because there's no guarantee that the player selected will become an elite player.
 
Hiesenberg said:
@FPTimCampbell: Follow to Thurs circus -- hearing that #NHLFlyers have next to no interest in Evander Kane of the #NHLJets. #bn
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Yayyyyy somhappy. Did not want the headache.

Also I have fully prepared myself for the Flyers to draft a two-way center. That way when they do I wont be disappointed and if they dont I will be happy.
 
King Fish said:
You are missing the point. The first post was reiterating that there was a proposal that was "above and beyond" for the #1 overall. Secondly, I was a big Couterier fan a few years back. If he can be part of a package that gets you a legit scoring winger, then you do it! Runner up for the Selke? Great! We need to put the puck in the net. I would love for him to return to his rookie season form but he looks like Hanzues reborn.
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I don't even know where to begin. I do not think you will find one person on this board who agrees with you. I think you have a serious misunderstanding of how to win in the NHL. Maybe you would be better off discussing hockey on WIP or something. I don't know.
 
Don't know where to put this, but for next year's draft, the first 3 spots will be determined by lottery.
 
DrinkFightFlyers said:
I'd be surprised if FLA trades #1. Every year there is all this intrigue about whether or not the team with the pick will trade the pick and I honestly don't remember the last time it happened. Sedins?
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2003, when Florida traded the #1 (Marc-Andre Fleury) and #73 (Daniel Carcillo) to Pittsburgh for #3 (Nathan Horton), #55 (Stefan Meyer), and Mikael Samuelsson. The #1 pick has been traded 5 times in NHL history, three of them by Florida.
 
Mystlyfe said:
2003, when Florida traded the #1 (Marc-Andre Fleury) and #73 (Daniel Carcillo) to Pittsburgh for #3 (Nathan Horton), #55 (Stefan Meyer), and Mikael Samuelsson. The #1 pick has been traded 5 times in NHL history, three of them by Florida.
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Haha. Wow. That explains a lot...

For real though, I don't see it happening, but if the price is two picks and a prospects as it was back then, there is going to be another team with better picks and prospects than what we are offering.
 
DrinkFightFlyers said:
Haha. Wow. That explains a lot...

For real though, I don't see it happening, but if the price is two picks and a prospects as it was back then, there is going to be another team with better picks and prospects than what we are offering.
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I am pretty sure the last two times Florida traded the first pick, they did so knowing they would get the guy they wanted at first (JBo, Horton).


I know in the 2002 draft they went from 1st to 3rd and then sent picks to Alanta (the 2nd team) so they would not draft Bouwmeester. In the end they would have just been better drafting him at first.
 
Prongo said:
This is going to be an incredible night with the amount of players who are available tonight. Going to have some major fireworks.
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Sometimes market flooding can actually jam the system, though. Wouldn't be shocked if none of the big names moved. Everyone thinks they can get a better deal elsewhere, everyone plays chicken...no one moves.

I don't expect that, nor do I want that, but I think it's possible.
 
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