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Part 2 2014 Flyers' Draft Talk [times and TV info in first post]

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Striiker said:
Yeah I know what you meant and I agree, I was just saying if he actually does it I'd be very mad.
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In my opinion, I think you're considerably more likely to see Laughton moved to move up than you are the defenseman, especially Ghost and Morin. I've heard Hexy talk about the importance of the young D-men the Flyers are developing. I can't honestly recall him saying much about Laughton since becoming the GM. No idea how he sees him fitting in long term.
 
Broad Street Elite said:
In my opinion, I think you're considerably more likely to see Laughton moved to move up than you are the defenseman, especially Ghost and Morin. I've heard Hexy talk about the importance of the young D-men the Flyers are developing. I can't honestly recall him saying much about Laughton since becoming the GM. No idea how he sees him fitting in long term.
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Absolutely, if any of the prospects are going it would be him, not that I'd want that either.

Especially since if he moved up the pick would be a forward who probably has a higher upside than Laughton.
 
Broad Street Elite said:
Ok, I guess my definition of tradeable assets is different. By your definition, I don't believe any NHL team has the assets necessary to move up.
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not true, montreal, detroit anaheim are stacked at the prospect level and have a ton of draft picks. These are desireable things to teams and hence tradeable assets. we don't have that.
 
Broad Street Elite said:
In my opinion, I think you're considerably more likely to see Laughton moved to move up than you are the defenseman, especially Ghost and Morin. I've heard Hexy talk about the importance of the young D-men the Flyers are developing. I can't honestly recall him saying much about Laughton since becoming the GM. No idea how he sees him fitting in long term.
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He mentioned him yesterday along with Leier as two young promising forwards on the 97.5 interview. I don't think he mentions him a lot because he's rarely asked about him compared to the defensemen.
 
LegionOfDoom91 said:
Top 4 defensemen & top 6 center are a lot more valuable than top 6 wingers. Hopefully Hextall isn't dumb here & just stays the course.
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In the top 10 or at 17? Because center wise other than the top 5 the rest seem like 3rd line centers maybe 2nd line centers. And doesnt seem they think there are many good defenders either (whether its Sanhiem or Honka or whoever) Hex hopefully see's a problem on the wing and wants to address it)
 
Jtown said:
not true, montreal, detroit anaheim are stacked at the prospect level and have a ton of draft picks. These are desireable things to teams and hence tradeable assets. we don't have that.
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Just so I understand where you make the distinction, are Laughton, Ghost, Morin, Hagg, and Stolarz not prospects simply because they are fewer in number than other teams (in your view)? Not trying to be snarky. I just think our prospect pool has plenty of players other teams may be interested in.
 
sa cyred said:
@BroadStBull: Hexy gives high grades to Milano, Larkin and Tuch. A couple may be available at No. 17.

MILANO!!!
But there is Larkin which I dont dislike but another center
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If they take one of those three I'd be fine with it. Perfer them in that order, though.
 
sa cyred said:
In the top 10 or at 17? Because center wise other than the top 5 the rest seem like 3rd line centers maybe 2nd line centers. And doesnt seem they think there are many good defenders either (whether its Sanhiem or Honka or whoever) Hex hopefully see's a problem on the wing and wants to address it)
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I'm talking about the thought of trading Laughton/Gostisbehere/Morin & the 17th pick to move up & select a winger. It's not worth it, I much rather sit at #17 & draft a winger without losing other assets.
 
LegionOfDoom91 said:
He mentioned him yesterday along with Leier as two young promising forwards on the 97.5 interview. I don't think he mentions him a lot because he's rarely asked about him compared to the defensemen.
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Cool deal and I agree with your final sentiment. I just didn't know where he stood there. He obviously viewed Hartnell differently than Holmgren did, so I assume that he similarly will view other players (including prospects) differently as well.
 
sa cyred said:
@BroadStBull: Hexy gives high grades to Milano, Larkin and Tuch. A couple may be available at No. 17.

MILANO!!!
But there is Larkin which I dont dislike but another center
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Please ****ing get Milano. That kid is going to be special :). The fact he fights for the puck (with or without it) and has a snarl to his game to go with his awesome hands and good to great skating is going to be awesome for us :).
 
I honestly think Milano would be in the top 10 if he wasn't playing with Eichel. Eichel is a phenomenal talent, but I think people are getting carried away with the notion that Eichel was the driver on that line.
 
Coburn, Straka, Alt, 2nd round 2014,5th round 2015 to Toronto for Gardiner and 1st (8th)

Draft Ehlers.
Draft Milano with our 1st.
2nd round... Deangelo is gonna fall to us ;)


Then next season

Schenn Giroux Voracek
Umberger Couts Read
Raffl Lecavalier Simmonds
Rinaldo Laughton Bellemare

Gardiner Timonen
Streit Schenn
Ghost MacD


Then in say 3 years when Umberger is gone and id say read is probably gone forwards will look like this..

Schenn Giroux Voracek
Leier Couturier Simmonds
Ehlers Laughton Milano



HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH i would be a terrible gm :P -_-
 
I'd like to see the context in which Hextall mentioned moving up. Flyers beat reporters love embellishing things for web hits. Like others have mentioned, I don't see the Flyers having the necessary means to move up.
 
Broad Street Elite said:
Cool deal and I agree with your final sentiment. I just didn't know where he stood there. He obviously viewed Hartnell differently than Holmgren did, so I assume that he similarly will view other players (including prospects) differently as well.
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Yeah he brought him up when talking about the prospect pool & the future of the Flyers. I think Laughton's a type of player that would fit in any team's plans since he does everything well to go along with his good size & intangibles.
 
hockeyfreak7 said:
I honestly think Milano would be in the top 10 if he wasn't playing with Eichel. Eichel is a phenomenal talent, but I think people are getting carried away with the notion that Eichel was the driver on that line.
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Which I find a bit interesting considering that we are less than one draft removed from seeing linemates drafted who both individually look more than capable of holding their own without the other.
 
Hextall rates Tuch highly like I do. Niiiice. He reminds me of the type of pick the Kings would make.

I'd be fine with Milano as well.
 
SolidSnakeUS said:
I think Milano's play-bigger-than-my-size is definitely something that would be very valuable to this team. Giroux does it and it pays off too.
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Size really isn't that much of an issue for Milano considering his style of play & the fact that he's really not that small at 6'0" 183 lbs.

His biggest knocks are probably his play without the puck & he's guilty of overdoing offensively at times whether it be holding on to the puck for too long or not taking the simple play.
 
Broad Street Elite said:
Which I find a bit interesting considering that we are less than one draft removed from seeing linemates drafted who both individually look more than capable of holding their own without the other.
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Yeah, I think if MacKinnon outscored Drouin for Halifax, then Drouin would not have been so highly regarded. Drouin forced everyone to take note of him because it wasn't really an acceptable explanation that MacKinnon was carrying him.

With Milano, I think the fact that Eichel put up even bigger numbers lends people to make the conclusion that Milano was his passenger, which I think is pretty unfair.
 
The more I think about it, the more I want to trade down into the 20s. Based on the last two drafts, it looks like the going rate is a first and second to move up a couple spots in the mid-late first. The Flyers likely will have someone in mind that they want to take in the first round, but if it is me, I look at this year's available players around 17 and think that they are not much different from those ten picks or so back. Obviously, if the guy you want is there at 17 you take him and don't risk it, but if there are a couple guys you are thinking about taking...I think you trade down.

Milano
Tuch
Larkin
Honka
Sherbak
Pastrnak
McKeown
Vrana
Macinnis
Kempe
Karlsson

Those are all guys that will be available likely between 17 and 27ish. They won't all be available (some maybe not even at 17), but there's a decent chance that you trade down into the twenties and you still get a guy as good as the one taken at 17. I wouldn't take all of those guys at 17, obviously, but if it gets to 17 and lets say Milano, Larkin, Tuch, Honka, McKeown, and Pastrnak are on the board, I would contact the next five teams and see what they are offering to trade up.
 
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