I'm suprised that Leafs fans think Marner will just roll over and die and wave the NMC just to help the team out if they make him feel *unwanted* enough. If anything wouldn't he try to stay in spite and leave as a ufa? Maybe it ticks him off and he wants to be a villain now
No i know but I'm just saying if Marner wants to be a leaf why would he entertain being traded? It seems fans think that the organisation is some hard ass group that's gonna gonna putt him on the third line with no PP if he doesn't waive which is ridiculous lol.There’s been multiple reports he was willing to waive last off season. Him waiving isn’t going to be a problem. Marner isn’t some spiteful guy lol. I love how we all try and vilify this guy. Said it on the leafs board, if Marner doesn’t wave it’s because he wants to be a leaf. Nothing to do with spite and it would be his contractual right to do so. Sundin did the same thing, same with Kadri when they tried to move him to Calgary.
Rest assured Dallas will not trade you their second most important blueliner who has shown exponential growth at age 22 and solidified himself as a top pairing stud with room to grow and who is now soaking in 25+ minutes a night in the playoffs, for Mitch Marner.
No i know but I'm just saying if Marner wants to be a leaf why would he entertain being traded? It seems fans think that the organisation is some hard ass group that's gonna gonna putt him on the third line with no PP if he doesn't waive which is ridiculous lol.
Your guy's best hope is twitter threats and car jackings ect...wish you guys luck!
I think you underestimate the type of pressure the city can muster.I'm suprised that Leafs fans think Marner will just roll over and die and wave the NMC just to help the team out if they make him feel *unwanted* enough. If anything wouldn't he try to stay in spite and leave as a ufa? Maybe it ticks him off and he wants to be a villain now
Who said anything about Toronto paying anything on his future contract?
We are talking about the one year he has left. Toronto will be paying the bonus on that contract. That’s what teams care about, real money. Every team can make the cap work if they want to. What most teams can’t always afford is to pay a huge bonus plus the salary to a player. Thats why Marner’s contract is very attractive to teams. Toronto will take care of the bonus for this season and the club he is traded to will only have to worry about 900,000k in REAL money which is chump change to them. Most teams will figure out how to make Marner fit under their cap if all they have to do is pay him less than a million in real money. All of Toronto’s contracts are structured this way so those star players are easier to trade at the end of their contracts and doesn’t diminish their value.
Please learn and understand the business of contracts.
I wouldn't trade Theodore one on one for MarnerMarner + Liljegren for Theodore + Karlsson
You said cap won’t matter because Toronto can retain/take back a contract
Good thing a team is trying to trade for Marner and use him like a rental….
In a real world meanwhile a team would trade for Marner and try to re-sign him so cap really does matter a helluva amount and you don’t fit 12M cap hit just like that
Couldn’t Toronto hypothetically retain for this season?
Marner agrees to extension after trade is done so retention is only there for 1 season. I don’t think teams are trading for Marner to use him as a rental at all. Teams if you’re trading for him will look to sign him. But I don’t think the cap hit is as big of an issue as people are making it seem. Vegas is the perfect example of making things work, of course every team worries about the cap. But it’s not a big barrier. You move money out. It won’t be easy but it’s doable especially if you like the player.
No ….. teams would sign for extended Marner, that’s my point so I don’t put much energy into your Toronto can pay his bonus stuff
It’s all about longterm view, of course teams can add 12M players and be contenders but those have to be the right 12M players. Players who you can build around and drive the team.
This Vegas team doesn’t have a single player making that money so of course it’s way easier for them to keep depth and work around it
No ….. teams would sign for extended Marner, that’s my point so I don’t put much energy into your Toronto can pay his bonus stuff
It’s all about longterm view, of course teams can add 12M players and be contenders but those have to be the right 12M players. Players who you can build around and drive the team.
This Vegas team doesn’t have a single player making that money so of course it’s way easier for them to keep depth and work around it
No we won’t, if PLD could get the return he got while openly saying he only wants to be a hab, the return for Marner who’s a better player will be greater. If Marner agrees to be traded a contract extension will be negotiated. His value around the league is still high. Marner wants an 8 year deal and teams will happily pay him that. He’s still a star player who will draw at the gate.
Not necessarily.
Using Chicago as an example, what motive would Kyle Davidson have to commit 11+ for 8 years AND give up futures in the middle of a rebuild? That’s a step backwards.
This all depends on the teams he agrees to accept a trade to.
My guess:
Hawks: Vlasic + Tor 2025 first back
Hawks are not trading our 22 yr old top pairing shutdown LD who just signed a 6-year extension and has been named a core piece of franchise rebuild
Chicago isn’t even an option. I don’t think Marner has any interest in going there. I think Marner will go to a contending team who needs a piece or two to get over the hump and also wants to sell tickets and get more gate revenue. So Nashville, Vegas, Dallas a team like that would really be where I think he lands.
I agree Chicago isn’t a fit. But lol at Marner being a big ticket mover. He isn’t McDavid. Nashville, Vegas and Dallas all sell tickets lol.
I agree Nashville and Vegas could be fits.
(Dallas doesn’t need Marner)
You would be getting a core piece back. That is how it works.
It’s more about selling hope you’re really going for it. I get Marner isn’t great in the playoffs but acting like he is a dog shit player isn’t accurate either. In the reg season he makes plays I have not seen other players make. That being said he has flaws and needs to figure it out in the playoffs but he’s a star player
Not looking for Vegas to get stronger, but you are right how much fun would it be watching all the other GMs scramble, and see what the odds Vegas will put out there on what GMs will overpay, or make risky trades to quiet their fan base. ..................I could see many tripping over themselves, and their local media calling the out ...........let the fun beginI want Vegas because I have no idea how they would make it work but it would be great from a chaos POV
From a team standpoint, I don't think it serves Dallas well to flip Harley for Marner.A top 5 winger in the league isn’t worth your teams second best d-man?