Ovechkin Milestone Thread - Countdown to 894 (892 and counting)

I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I'm still more of the mindset that the overall goal scoring record - regular season + playoffs - is the most important one.

Ovechkin's at 963 goals. Gretzky scored 1,016. He's still 53 goals shy of that, but I wouldn't bet against Ovechkin getting that one in due time, either.

Playoff scoring is irrelevant to this record and thread.
 
If anything him doing this in less games, if he can, is what impresses me the most

I think if he does it before the season finale its in less games or the same, with the finale being one game above Gretzky
Someone pointed out earlier in the thread that Gretz went scoreless in his last 8 games, so he actually scored 894 in his 1,479th game. Still crazy impressive its close either way.
 
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I'm still more of the mindset that the overall goal scoring record - regular season + playoffs - is the most important one.

Ovechkin's at 963 goals. Gretzky scored 1,016. He's still 53 goals shy of that, but I wouldn't bet against Ovechkin getting that one in due time, either.
Your point makes a lot of sense. But I think there will be nothing left for him to prove once he eclipses Gretzky's goal record. The other won't matter anymore. The only reason these Gretzky records even stand anymore is due to Lemieux getting cancer and a broken back along with Ovechkin's own work stoppages. Oh and a 20 year career of having Hall Of Very Good Nick Backstrom as your best teammate. Versus like the 10 HHOFers Gretzky had.

This should have happened some time ago
 
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I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I'm still more of the mindset that the overall goal scoring record - regular season + playoffs - is the most important one.

Ovechkin's at 963 goals. Gretzky scored 1,016. He's still 53 goals shy of that, but I wouldn't bet against Ovechkin getting that one in due time, either.

Can't agree, during the majority of Gretzky's career there was only 21 teams and still 16 playoff spots. You'd have the the 6th worst(or worse) team in the playoffs. In the '88 playoffs you had the 2nd worst team(behind 3rd worst by 7 points and only ahead of worst by 1 point) in the playoffs. Top teams were pretty much guaranteed to play at least 2 rounds.

What a slaughter it would be if Washington or Winnipeg played the Blackhawks in the first round. That routinely happened.
 
Your point makes a lot of sense. But I think there will be nothing left for him to prove once he eclipses Gretzky. The only reason these Gretzky records even stand anymore is due to Lemieux getting cancer and a broken back along with Ovechkin's own work stoppages. Oh and a 20 year career of having Hall Of Very Good Nick Backstrom as your best teammate. Versus like the 10 HHOFers Gretzky had.

This should have happened some time ago
The Lemieux "what if" scenarios are always interesting to think about. He scored at a goals/game rate of .75 throughout his career. If he played as many games as Gretzky that would equal 1,121 goals. With expected drop off as he aged, it is not really that crazy to think he could have been able to reach 1,000 goals with a healthy career. Oh what could have been.
 
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Ovie’s 4 away now.

People love to say he’s just a one trick pony, but I’ve seen plenty of goals this year that haven’t been from his office and he’s tied for 15th in points per game in the entire NHL at 39 years old. He’s also tied for 3rd in the league in goals, despite breaking his leg at 39 years old, and 2nd in the NHL in goals per game.

Basically, he’s a f***ing maniac.
Even if he was a one trick pony, it's the greatest trick in hockey history lmao. It's not even a burn

Like saying Steph curry is a one trick pony
 
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The Lemieux "what if" scenarios are always interesting to think about. He scored at a goals/game rate of .75 throughout his career. If he played as many games as Gretzky that would equal 1,121 goals. With expected drop off as he aged, it is not really that crazy to think he could have been able to reach 1,000 goals with a healthy career. Oh what could have been.
Lemieux had HOFers too: Jagr/Coffey/Francis/Murphy/Recchi
Lemieux GPG =.57 w/o HOFers:
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Lemieux GPG =.85 with HOFers:
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229 assists out of 510 goals = 45%
 
Even if he was a one trick pony, it's the greatest trick in hockey history lmao. It's not even a burn

At #3 in hits all time, and #9 in assists during his career, and top 5 all time in adjusted points, it is factually incorrect to say he’s a one trick pony or one dimensional or “shoot-only” or anything like that.

And yes, it definitely is often intended as an insult and a slander.
 
Sacrificing winning to help Ovi set the record!!!. Btw, unrelated, but uhhh no need to check the Caps and Pens standings.
Imagine where the Caps would be if they didn't sacrifice this season for Ovi record shenanigans. Who knows, they might've even topped the league!

They could've had class, they could've been a contender! They could've been somebodies. Instead of bums. Which is what they are, let's face it.
 
At #3 in hits all time, and #9 in assists during his career, and top 5 all time in adjusted points, it is factually incorrect to say he’s a one trick pony or one dimensional or “shoot-only” or anything like that.

And yes, it definitely is often intended as an insult and a slander.
The common criticism is that Ovi could’ve had much more assists if he didn’t shoot each puck coming his way. Ovi shooting the puck from his office is just a winning play. It’s really just that Ovi has a signature play unlike most players. If Ovi was getting 40~ assists a season and played Crosby level defense that label wouldn’t exist.
 
The common criticism is that Ovi could’ve had much more assists if he didn’t shoot each puck coming his way. Ovi shooting the puck from his office is just a winning play. It’s really just that Ovi has a signature play unlike most players. If Ovi was getting 40~ assists a season and played Crosby level defense that label wouldn’t exist.

Sure, Ovie could have had many more assists if he didn’t focus on scoring but that would probably be bad for the team. He came to a lottery team and they’ve won the second most games in the entire league during his career despite him likely being the only hall of famer.

As for Crosby level defense, I don’t think there is any meaningful distinction there.

Ovechkin’s physicality, OTOH, actually exists, with evidence.
 
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He is a bit of a one trick pony in recent years. Sadly this is how many younger fans will remember him, or use against him to negate his accomplishments even though he's still an elite goalscorer.
It's one of the pitfalls of playing for 20 years.

But for the majority of his career he was a multi-faceted offensive machine.
 
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He is a bit of a one trick pony in recent years. Sadly this is how many younger fans will remember him, or use against him to negate his accomplishments.
It's one of the pitfalls of playing for 20 years.

But for the majority of his career he was a multi-faceted offensive machine.
One trick pony ? Have you seen his goals this year ? He barely scored from his “office”, there’s been a lot of tip ins, tap ins, shots from high slot, he’s done it all this year
 
Sure, Ovie could have had many more assists if he didn’t focus on scoring but that would probably be bad for the team. He came to a lottery team and they’ve won the second most games in the entire league during his career despite him likely being the only hall of famer.

As for Crosby level defense, I don’t think there is any meaningful distinction there.

Ovechkin’s physicality, OTOH, actually exists, with evidence.
Backstrom is really a borderline hall of famer, he could get in eventually. If Ovi was a puck carrier until 2018ish, there would be no such thing as a one trick poney, but something happened after 2010. He stopped carrying the puck as much, and his ability to drive his line declined. This is evidenced by the fact that Ovi never broke 50 assists after 2011.

It’s hard to value Ovi’s physicality on defense compared to Crosby’s puck winning ability, defensive zone board grinding, takeaways, and defensive awareness. The guys who are top 10 in hits are usually not top 10 players so it’s impressive on Ovi’s part.
 
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