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Ottawa 67's 2023-24 Off-Season Thread (Part 1)

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PuckStop75 said:
Ottawa was 33pts better than the Petes last year and we know how that turned out.
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God that hurts to think about again. To your point, though, playoffs are a whole different beast. Petes underachieved significantly during the regular season last year, and should have been much better than they were. Come playoff time, their veterans put it together when it mattered, including the great goaltending that any team making a run has to have.
 
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OMG67 said:
Regular season records aren’t meaningful but the way they lose/win is. The fact that Oshawa is relatively young at the top of their roster is also meaningful. Most of their best players aren’t 19-20. Roobroeck, Torrance, Lockhart and Rolofs are their only older forwards. Maybe include McIntyre as well? He’s probably playing a big enough role to include in that group. The back end has Oster in net with D’Amato and Punnett? Stewart is decent as well. That really isn’t a lot of experience.

Ottawa has more experience. A little more playoff experience as well.

Oshawa is bigger and had 9 more points int he regular season. A lot of the intangibles go in Ottawa’s favour.

Barrie gave up the most regular season goals of all 16 playoff teams, yet Oshawa only managed to score 17 goals in 6 games: 2 into empty nets, 1 shorthanded and 7 on the Powerplay. That means they scored only SEVEN even strength goals in the series. That is quite the stat. Ottawa scored 17 even strength goals against a statistically better team. No matter how you look at round one, Oshawa was not impressive. Sure, maybe the Barrie goalies stood on his head or maybe they made it easier for the goalie to make saves?

If Ottawa stays out of the box and plays a strong forecheck game, they should win the series. If they are undisciplined and allow Oshawa to come at them like they played in February, they will lose the series without much effort on Oshawa’s part. To me, this series is in the hands of Ottawa to win or lose more than it is in Oshawa’s hands.
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Agree 100% that Oshawa is built to contend next year rather than this year. Just like Ottawa was built to contend last year. That’s my biggest concern for Oshawa - - the fact that Ottawa had the experience last season, unfortunate as it was, and there’s still guys remaining from that team looking to avenge last year’s disappointment.

You’re badly underestimating Oshawa’s defence. They’ve got some legit NHL talent. Punnett is a rugged veteran who just signed with Dallas. Danford is rock solid defensively and will a 2nd round pick this year. Luca Marrelli is excellent at moving the puck and will also be a 3rd round pick this year. D’Amato is a crafty veteran who can also get the puck ahead quickly. Even the bottom pairing of Bedkowski and Sandhu have been solid.

That’s why I welcome Ottawa to press the forecheck because if they do they’re going to get torched.

As for the comparison of Beau Jelsma to Ottawa forwards - - once Oshawa stopped chasing Jelsma around the perimeter and just passed him off to the next guy, he was completely neutralized and did NOTHING in the last two games of the series. Jelsma is a soft player who prefers to play on the perimeter and is relatively easy for a good team to shut down.

There’s no quyOshawa has the advantage physically, defensively and especially in net this series. Finesse perimeter play doesn’t usually have much success in the playoffs against good teams.

Looking forward to getting started tomorrow night. Section 115 will be ready to give the opposition a hard time - - just as Barrie about that. As always, I welcome everyone, friend or foe, to stop by and say hello.
 
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Donnie740 said:
Agree 100% that Oshawa is built to contend next year rather than this year. Just like Ottawa was built to contend last year. That’s my biggest concern for Oshawa - - the fact that Ottawa had the experience last season, unfortunate as it was, and there’s still guys remaining from that team looking to avenge last year’s disappointment.

You’re badly underestimating Oshawa’s defence. They’ve got some legit NHL talent. Punnett is a rugged veteran who just signed with Dallas. Danford is rock solid defensively and will a 2nd round pick this year. Luca Marrelli is excellent at moving the puck and will also be a 3rd round pick this year. D’Amato is a crafty veteran who can also get the puck ahead quickly. Even the bottom pairing of Bedkowski and Sandhu have been solid.

That’s why I welcome Ottawa to press the forecheck because if they do they’re going to get torched.

As for the comparison of Beau Jelsma to Ottawa forwards - - once Oshawa stopped chasing Jelsma around the perimeter and just passed him off to the next guy, he was completely neutralized and did NOTHING in the last two games of the series. Jelsma is a soft player who prefers to play on the perimeter and is relatively easy for a good team to shut down.

There’s no quyOshawa has the advantage physically, defensively and especially in net this series. Finesse perimeter play doesn’t usually have much success in the playoffs against good teams.

Looking forward to getting started tomorrow night. Section 115 will be ready to give the opposition a hard time - - just as Barrie about that. As always, I welcome everyone, friend or foe, to stop by and say hello.
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I may be in town next Friday for Game five. If so, I will try to say hello!

Ottawa isn’t a perimeter team. They enter the centre ice when the centre ice is available. They force teams to get running around. Like I said in another post, if Oshawa is comfortable giving puck possession to Ottawa at 65-70% and be confident at just manning the centre of the ice and not forcing anything, that may be the strategy that works. If they try to maintain puck possession, to do so they will need to come out of a defensive shell. That’s when Ottawa finds those seems and exploits them.

It will come down to Oshawa willing to win games 2-1. If they are committed to playing without the puck, I think they have a much better chance. Like you said about Jelsma, keep them to the outside and let them skate around with the puck all game. Score on the PP. I think if Oshawa plays any other way, their chances of winning the series is much less.
 
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What I will be looking for is an Ottawa team that stays away from retaliation penalties while scoring a few PP goals of their own. Having Ottawa's leadership group sitting in the box at crucial times will be a recipe for disaster.
 
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OMG67 said:
For me, I was a Leafs and Generals fan growing up. I moved to Ottawa in 1990 and by 1993, I was a 67’s and Leafs Fan. The Generals were no longer accessible and the 67’s were so it made sense to change affiliation, especially when the players graduate so quickly. I am still a Leafs Fan because the Leafs are accessible on TV.

If I were in the same situation today with the CHLTV and I could get all the Generals Games, it is likely I would remain a Generals Fan. Things were different back in 1990. Rogers TV wasn’t televising games outside their local market. So, the Generals Home Games would only be vailable in Durham Region. Their Road games weren’t available even if they were broadcast in a Rogers territory like Ottawa. It wasn’t until Dick Creamer pushed the Rogers guys to open up the market and show games cross regions. That was around 1995 or so. We’d then get out of town 67’s games broadcast on Ottawa Rgers stations IF it were a Rogers territory where they played. Gradually they added the Shaw region and then later the American Regional TV broadcasts. CHL TV then took that concept digital on an Internet platform.
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He's laughing at the "Dick Creamer" reference. Actually a real person and super nice guy back then..

Yup. I remember the OHL game of the week on Saturday afternoons. Was a big deal back then.

Lived in Toronto for a total of 15 years and could never bring myself to cheer for the Leafs. Nope can't do it. Lol. Love my Jays and Raps but no to that hockey team. Lmao

PuckStop75 said:
Lets not degrade what Oshawa accomplished in the regular season, 1st place is 1st place place no matter how you blend it up, they all play a 68 game season and the team with the best record earns it. The regular season means nothing once playoff hockey starts, Ottawa was 33pts better than the Petes last year and we know how that turned out.
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No one is taking the Generals lightly. This going to be a good series. Enjoy....
 
Donnie740 said:
Looking forward to getting started tomorrow night. Section 115 will be ready to give the opposition a hard time - - just as Barrie about that. As always, I welcome everyone, friend or foe, to stop by and say hello.
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Donnie740 said:
That’s assuming the series goes five games and there isn’t a sweep 😜
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That's the spirit but intimidating is going into ValDor Quebec and cheering for the visitors during the playoffs. Intimidating was donning anything but black in Oakland CA during the Raiders football Era. Or Gatineau during the playoffs etc... Get my point but junior hockey atmospheres in most parts is meh..

A sweep you say? Just like you guys planned it last year eh? Lol
 
OMG67 said:
For me, I was a Leafs and Generals fan growing up. I moved to Ottawa in 1990 and by 1993, I was a 67’s and Leafs Fan. The Generals were no longer accessible and the 67’s were so it made sense to change affiliation, especially when the players graduate so quickly. I am still a Leafs Fan because the Leafs are accessible on TV.

If I were in the same situation today with the CHLTV and I could get all the Generals Games, it is likely I would remain a Generals Fan. Things were different back in 1990. Rogers TV wasn’t televising games outside their local market. So, the Generals Home Games would only be vailable in Durham Region. Their Road games weren’t available even if they were broadcast in a Rogers territory like Ottawa. It wasn’t until Dick Creamer pushed the Rogers guys to open up the market and show games cross regions. That was around 1995 or so. We’d then get out of town 67’s games broadcast on Ottawa Rgers stations IF it were a Rogers territory where they played. Gradually they added the Shaw region and then later the American Regional TV broadcasts. CHL TV then took that concept digital on an Internet platform.
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Being born and raised in Kingston, you had your choice of 3 NHL teams. Some cheered for Montreal, some for the Laffs, and some for Boston due to the numerous connections.

Before the sens, Ottawa was a mix of Laffs and Canadians for the most part.

Watching the city when the Sens came was interesting because while a large group supported the Sens, many people kept their original love. I think if you look at Gatineau and the Quebec side, you would see Montreal is still their team to a great extent.

For personal reasons involving the beast and also because I spent a number of years cheering for the Bruins, I stayed with them.


As to the 67's you can blame Dick Cramer and his partner for that LOL. They got me involved in the booster club and the birth of the BEAST I N THE EAST.

After I left Ottawa for foreign service, I still thought Steph and Dick cheered for and represented the 67's. I had the honour to be asked by an aid agency to teach the kids about CDN sports and did so with my 67's warm-up gear and hockey sticks and such.

When I came back and got sent back to Kingston, I attended all the games and was probably one of the loudest JEER leaders for the Fronts and Mavety. I was not a great Ottawa fan in that I did not know most of the players and did not have the connection.
 
Race Dawg said:
That's the spirit but intimidating is going into ValDor Quebec and cheering for the visitors during the playoffs. Intimidating was donning anything but black in Oakland CA during the Raiders football Era. Or Gatineau during the playoffs etc... Get my point but junior hockey atmospheres in most parts is meh..

A sweep you say? Just like you guys planned it last year eh? Lol
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You obviously never went to MLG or THE FORUM and cheered for Boston lol

When we win a game there it gets interesting. to me, the keys are going to be who is hitting harder, who has the most people hurting from the precious series and who has the hotter goalie. Stealing a win in OSH would be great without Mayich, and then coming home and having a rested and healthy Mayich will be great.
 
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He's laughing at the "Dick Creamer" reference. Actually a real person and super nice guy back then..
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Dick was the man who brought a marketing plan that was superb and knew exactly how to deal with each person he talked to. Steph as was the woman beside the man. She would tell any of us when she thought things were getting out of hand.

Dick knew that in order to get the booster fans, you had to give them something. also, he was a player's first believer. Everything the booster club did was geared to providing for the players and never for the team or organization.

The one piece of Ottawa I still have, although not much call to wear, is my winter coat that the booster club bought the players with input from the players.

The dinners with the players for booster club members where you got to sit with your favourite player. The players at the booster club table were all great things that he brought.

The challenge and downfall, if you will, is that HUNT saw what the club was doing and how effective it was and wanted control, from what I understand. Considering that all deals that Dick made were between him and the business, that did not work.

BTW DO THE PEOPLE SITTING IN THE FIRST ROW OF SECTION 226 TIER 2 STILLHAVE STINKY FEET
 
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beastintheeast said:
Dick was the man who brought a marketing plan that was superb and knew exactly how to deal with each person he talked to. Steph as was the woman beside the man. She would tell any of us when she thought things were getting out of hand.

Dick knew that in order to get the booster fans, you had to give them something. also, he was a player's first believer. Everything the booster club did was geared to providing for the players and never for the team or organization.

The one piece of Ottawa I still have, although not much call to wear, is my winter coat that the booster club bought the players with input from the players.

The dinners with the players for booster club members where you got to sit with your favourite player. The players at the booster club table were all great things that he brought.

The challenge and downfall, if you will, is that HUNT saw what the club was doing and how effective it was and wanted control, from what I understand. Considering that all deals that Dick made were between him and the business, that did not work.

BTW DO THE PEOPLE SITTING IN THE FIRST ROW OF SECTION 226 TIER 2 STILLHAVE STINKY FEET
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I don’t want to get too much into this but I do need to correct one of your assumptions. First, Jeff Hunt was nothing but supportive from day one. He made some offers to support the Booster Club and informed them they no longer needed to support the players because everything they need will be taken care of in a professional way. The goal would be to support the team by assisting in building the fan base and support for the team in general. Dick and Steph exited prior to the Jeff Hunt season.

The “issue” was Earl. The Booster Club ran the 50-50 with proceeds going to assist player education. The focus would be on assisting players in need. Help with books and such, especially the players without the full scholarship packages. When the season was over, Earl politely asked for the 50-50 money so he could use it to pay the scholarships. That wasn’t the deal. The team has the responsibility to pay the scholarships. But, when Dick said NO WAY, Earl threatened to sue them personally as well as the Booster Club. So, Dick handed the money over and that was the start of the end for them.

I need to be very clear, Jeff Hunt was nothing but supportive. It is important that is stated on my end. Earl was a piece of shit. It is important I am clear on that too.
 
OMG67 said:
I don’t want to get too much into this but I do need to correct one of your assumptions. First, Jeff Hunt was nothing but supportive from day one. He made some offers to support the Booster Club and informed them they no longer needed to support the players because everything they need will be taken care of in a professional way. The goal would be to support the team by assisting in building the fan base and support for the team in general. Dick and Steph exited prior to the Jeff Hunt season.

The “issue” was Earl. The Booster Club ran the 50-50 with proceeds going to assist player education. The focus would be on assisting players in need. Help with books and such, especially the players without the full scholarship packages. When the season was over, Earl politely asked for the 50-50 money so he could use it to pay the scholarships. That wasn’t the deal. The team has the responsibility to pay the scholarships. But, when Dick said NO WAY, Earl threatened to sue them personally as well as the Booster Club. So, Dick handed the money over and that was the start of the end for them.

I need to be very clear, Jeff Hunt was nothing but supportive. It is important that is stated on my end. Earl was a piece of shit. It is important I am clear on that too.
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On a side note I had a personal issue with Jeff Hunt regarding an incident that I had experience at one of the games years ago. I gradually pulled away from the team (stopped cheering for them) once I moved out of Ottawa as my life was filled with more important things. Within the last couple of years I've come back to the team as Hunt's association with the 67's is thankfully now limited.
 
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You obviously never went to MLG or THE FORUM and cheered for Boston lol
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Nope yet to-do an MSG game but it's on the list. I'd feel your sentiments on the old Montreal Forum but as for today's current state (with so many Bruins fans attending games at the Molson Centre) I'd hardly think it would be that intimidating for visiting patrons based on the vast numbers.

BTW I grew up a Bruins fan as a kid. I had an Orr jersey and all. Remained a Boston fan into my teens but gradually found other interests besides the NHL so was kind of a lukewarm fan of that team and as mentioned the 67's were my passion back then. Stopped cheering for Boston once the Sens arrived as it wasn't too hard considering I had already fallen off the Bruins wagon.

Today Ottawa is hot garbage and it's frustrating AF watching this team piss away yet another season again. I can't stand the Laffs so yes I usually always join the Bruins bandwagon especially when they're playing Toronto. It's not hard as there's always a part of me that still remembers my love for the Bruins from yesteryears lol
 
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II need to be very clear, Jeff Hunt was nothing but supportive. It is important that is stated on my end. Earl was a piece of shit. It is important I am clear on that too.
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Oh, the memories. My first bus trip was with the Booster Club and I remember we were sitting there near the back. All of a sudden, there was a loud argument at the front. The Booster Club President (Bill Woods) stormed off and threw his jacket back into the bus. Last we saw of him and it left us wondering WTF had we signed on to. Went to exactly one more of those. Not really my thing.
 
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I'm really looking forward to this game.

Our boys have made it out of the 1st round and they actually look like they're back to playing good hockey. They have no injuries and Mack is approaching his best.

Both teams will have all the scouting they need. This will be a series of execution and breaks: which team can execute the best? Which team will stay disciplined, not retaliate? Which team will get/make the breaks? Powerplays may decide it.

I think there will be some surprises. Last round, due solely to a Gardiner injury, Dever showed he can play well at centre: leading us in points(!). And Korbler and Horner were solid minor contributors. The big guys are expected to play well; but, the bit players, from the margins, may well see us to victory. In the East nobody can claim to be the favorite: may as well be us.
 
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I'm really looking forward to this game.

Our boys have made it out of the 1st round and they actually look like they're back to playing good hockey. They have no injuries and Mack is approaching his best.

Both teams will have all the scouting they need. This will be a series of execution and breaks: which team can execute the best? Which team will stay disciplined, not retaliate? Which team will get/make the breaks? Powerplays may decide it.

I think there will be some surprises. Last round, due solely to a Gardiner injury, Dever showed he can play well at centre: leading us in points(!). And Korbler and Horner were solid minor contributors. The big guys are expected to play well; but, the bit players, from the margins, may well see us to victory. In the East nobody can claim to be the favorite: may as well be us.
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Korbler was a -3 with zero points in 3 games.

Horner was +11 with 5 points so I will definitely give you that one!
 
67’s pick Nathan Amidovski. Great pick. I didn’t expect him to be there at #11. A lot of the mocks had him going top 10. 6’1” centre that cans core is always a great option!
 
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Natan Amidovski, 1st round 11th overall 67s pick.
He's big and can skate. A centre? Dunno but he looks good.
 
Eshkawkogan is a puck mover that will be relied upon to generate offence. Small kid but let’s hope he grows!
 
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