Other than Ovechkin, Which Players (If Any) from the 2018 Washington Capitals will be Inducted into the HHOF?

[BlueBull]

I asked this question back when they won the cup in 2018.
Back then, people suggested plenty of players who could make it. But now, I'm a little bit worried.

The main reason I'm so concerned is the fact that if only Ovechkin gets inducted, Decades from now, History will make it seem like he carried a bad team to a Stanley Cup, when there was certainly a great supporting cast on that team.

There are a lot of borderline cases, but who do you think will get inducted, if any?

Let's Discuss.

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[Nadal On Clay]

Probably Backstrom, although he’s far from being a lock.

Other than him, nobody.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

Just OV

Backstrom is probably the closest but he went out with such a wimper, and was mediocre for so long, it's easy to forget he was above average for most of his prime.

 

[rogking65]

I asked this question back when they won the cup in 2018.
Back then, people suggested plenty of players who could make it. But now, I'm a little bit worried.

The main reason I'm so concerned is the fact that if only Ovechkin gets inducted, Decades from now, History will make it seem like he carried a bad team to a Stanley Cup, when there was certainly a great supporting cast on that team.

There are a lot of borderline cases, but who do you think will get inducted, if any?

Let's Discuss.

who ,of the listed ,would be borderline?

 

[Video Nasty]

I think Backstrom’s rapid decline and the likely end of his career did significant damage to his case.

If he could have continued with Ovechkin on the path to the goals record and possibly collected 350 goals/1200 points himself along the way, it would have helped his case tremendously, especially when telling their story as a duo.

His resume as it stands now just has the look of a player demoted to being merely a talented passenger, no matter how untrue and unfair that is.

 

[bobholly39]

No one....

Holtby has a really decent career, and the Vezina is nice and strong playoff numbers overall, but the bar for goalies in the hall of fame is so high. There are so many other names that likely go before he does for goalies.

Carlson isn't a hall of famer.

Backstrom is definitely the best forward of the bunch - and for a while he was pacing towards being a close call maybe, but he's had a really sharp decline. He hasn't done enough. He's above 1000 points....but barely.

Unless there's some other rookie I'm not thinking of from that roster, this will only be Ovechkin.

 

[BlueBull]

Carlson isn't a hall of famer.

Why not?
Looking at his resume, He seems to be somewhere in-between the territories of Eric Desjardins and Sergei Zubov (one of those is a hall of famer).

Judging by how he still has a bit left in the tank, I'm not sure about writing him off.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

None outside Ovechkin.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Most people thought Backstrom had a chance fairly recently.

Were people banking on him having significant accomplishments after age 35?

 

[DrDangles]

Most people thought Backstrom had a chance fairly recently.

Were people banking on him having significant accomplishments after age 35?

Before his injury issues he had a pretty decent chance of challenging Sundin to be the highest scoring Swede in the NHL. Not that it would've made him a first ballot inductee, but I think that combined with his cup and WC golds would get him in eventually.

 

[Buck Naked]

Backstrom, without a doubt.

 

[Regal]

Backstrom probably will. Despite the ending, he had a pretty full career and got to 1000 points. Was a 1C for over a decade and is known as Ovechkin’s main running mate over a pretty successful era for the team. He’s been a pretty quiet and unassuming player over his career though, has been overshadowed by Ovechkin as much as he’s been known as the running mate, and never won anything individually. That doesn’t preclude him from the Hall, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he didn’t get in or took a long time. I think if he was able to build up his career totals more with a more natural decline instead of the injury I’d be more confident.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

None.

I asked this question back when they won the cup in 2018.
Back then, people suggested plenty of players who could make it. But now, I'm a little bit worried.

The main reason I'm so concerned is the fact that if only Ovechkin gets inducted, Decades from now, History will make it seem like he carried a bad team to a Stanley Cup, when there was certainly a great supporting cast on that team.

There are a lot of borderline cases, but who do you think will get inducted, if any?

Let's Discuss.

Pretty random and ridiculous thing to be concerned about. Unless you have like a relative on the team and you're concerned they won't get their due credit. Otherwise I don't see the reason to be "concerned", unless you're a serious OV hater.

 

[pi314]

Ovechkin first ballot.

Backstrom eventually gets in.

Carlson hall of very good.

Nobody else that close.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Just OV

Backstrom is probably the closest but he went out with such a wimper, and was mediocre for so long, it's easy to forget he was above average for most of his prime.

Backstrom was never mediocre, sorry. He was a very good player who got his career abruptly ended by hip injuries.

That does not make him a HOF player, but he was never mediocre.

When he reached 500 career assists, Crosby and Jagr were the only active players to accomplish that feat faster.

There are no mediocre players with over 1,000 career points.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

Backstrom was never mediocre, sorry. He was a very good player who got his career abruptly ended by hip injuries.

That does not make him a HOF player, but he was never mediocre.

When he reached 500 career assists, Crosby and Jagr were the only active players to accomplish that feat faster.

There are no mediocre players with over 1,000 career points.

Sorry. I meant mediocre for a star player.

Without analysing anything on a deep level, he seems like he's 'Doug Weight' / Vincent Damphousse tier.

 

[Voight]

Probably Backstrom, although he’s far from being a lock.

Other than him, nobody.

From 2009 to 2019 he scored the 6th most points of any player. He was always stuck in the logjam of high end renters during his prime so he never got much award recognition but Backstrom was quietly one of the best centres in the league.

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Hes not a lock like Ovechkin or Kane are, but IMO he's a surefire HHOF'er.

I also think Carlson has a chance.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Sorry. I meant mediocre for a star player.

Without analysing anything on a deep level, he seems like he's 'Doug Weight' / Vincent Damphousse tier.

Ok, that’s better. I think it’s fair to call him just a star then, and maybe a superstar in his peak seasons.

Not good enough for the hall, but pretty damn good still.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

Players who have scored 1,000+ points for a single franchise:

• In the Hall (34): Bourque, Bucyk, Esposito, Perreault, Iginla, Francis, Mikita, Hull, Savard, Sakic, Stastny, Modano, Howe, Yzerman, Delvecchio, Lidstrom, Gretzky, Kurri, Messier, Dionne, Robitaille, Lafleur, Beliveau, Richard, Gilbert, Alfredsson, Trottier, Bossy, Potvin, Clarke, Lemieux, Federko, H. Sedin, D. Sedin
• Locks (9): Jagr, Ovechkin, Crosby, Malkin, Kane, Kopitar, Thornton, Stamkos, Bergeron
• Probable (4): Getzlaf, Elias, Marleau, Backstrom
• Not in despite being eligible 10+ years (1): Taylor

If I've counted correctly, there are 48 players in NHL history who have scored 1,000+ points for a single franchise. 43 of them are in the Hall of Fame, or will definitely be inducted. Four of them (including Backstrom) aren't locks, but I suspect all of them will eventually get in.

The only exception is Dave Taylor (he retired in 1994). He spoils the "score 1,000 points for one team and you're in the Hall" pattern. Why didn't he make it? He wasn't the best player on his line for the majority of his career (the same is true for Backstrom obviously). But Backstrom played in a lower scoring era, was much better defensively, has more years in the top ten in scoring (5-3), and won a Stanley Cup and was a better playoff performer overall. I think Taylor will remain the sole player who scored 1,000+ points with one team, without being inducted.

 

[biturbo19]

Just Oshie. Because by that point, his shootout thing will be the only thing anyone remembers about him and it was an overblown but HoF caliber story.

 

[majormajor]

Lol if they were in Montreal they'd all be inducted to the Hall of Fame.

I'd say Backstrom has a chance but probably no one other than Ovechkin will get in.

 

[jetsforever]

Backstrom maybe

 

[CascadiaPuck]

I suspect people saying Backstrom is a stretch to get in don’t know where the bar for admittance to the hall of fame lies. Given his track record, he’d be an exception if he was EXcluded. Not saying he’s a lock, but there aren’t many 1000pt players with Cups and top 10 point finishes on the outside looking in.

 

[bobholly39]

Players who have scored 1,000+ points for a single franchise:

• In the Hall (34): Bourque, Bucyk, Esposito, Perreault, Iginla, Francis, Mikita, Hull, Savard, Sakic, Stastny, Modano, Howe, Yzerman, Delvecchio, Lidstrom, Gretzky, Kurri, Messier, Dionne, Robitaille, Lafleur, Beliveau, Richard, Gilbert, Alfredsson, Trottier, Bossy, Potvin, Clarke, Lemieux, Federko, H. Sedin, D. Sedin
• Locks (9): Jagr, Ovechkin, Crosby, Malkin, Kane, Kopitar, Thornton, Stamkos, Bergeron
• Probable (4): Getzlaf, Elias, Marleau, Backstrom
• Not in despite being eligible 10+ years (1): Taylor

If I've counted correctly, there are 48 players in NHL history who have scored 1,000+ points for a single franchise. 43 of them are in the Hall of Fame, or will definitely be inducted. Four of them (including Backstrom) aren't locks, but I suspect all of them will eventually get in.

The only exception is Dave Taylor (he retired in 1994). He spoils the "score 1,000 points for one team and you're in the Hall" pattern. Why didn't he make it? He wasn't the best player on his line for the majority of his career (the same is true for Backstrom obviously). But Backstrom played in a lower scoring era, was much better defensively, has more years in the top ten in scoring (5-3), and won a Stanley Cup and was a better playoff performer overall. I think Taylor will remain the sole player who scored 1,000+ points with one team, without being inducted.

Is scoring 1000 points with a franchise hall of fame worthy?
Or did all players who score 1000 points with a franchise happen to all have hall of fame worthy careers?

It's not exactly the same thing. And I think it's the latter.

Out of all the players you listed here, Backstrom sticks out as having one of the 2-3 weakest careers.

I don't think he makes it.

 

[Kuz]

Backstrom will get in.

I wonder how long Carlson plays for. He might get into the top 20 in points among defencemen and has a 2nd place Norris finish and other strong placements like 4th. So he might get in if he keeps up 50+ points for a few more years.

He also have the 5th highest ppg season for a defenceman after the lockout and that was a lower scoring season than the seasons Karlson, Josi and Makar*2 had higher ppg.