OT: OT: Lets Go Cardinals! (All Baseball Talk Here) Part 2

[Memento]

So, he needs everything to be all PLD before he gets going.

I never said that. Walker had a great rookie year. He finally looked like he did his rookie year in September. Yes, last year was a lost year. Last year, he was terrible for the most part in the majors, but he - and Victor Scott, for that matter - looked better late in the year with adjustments. It gives me hope that with future adjustments, he could still be a part of our future.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

I never said that. Walker had a great rookie year. He finally looked like he did his rookie year in September. Yes, last year was a lost year. Last year, he was terrible for the most part in the majors, but he - and Victor Scott, for that matter - looked better late in the year with adjustments. It gives me hope that with future adjustments, he could still be a part of our future.

From what I remember, Walker had a fantastic start to his rookie year, was coached into a swing adjustment, then he faded and was sent down. He hasn’t been the same since.

 

[joe galiba]

From what I remember, Walker had a fantastic start to his rookie year, was coached into a swing adjustment, then he faded and was sent down. He hasn’t been the same since.

his hitting had really cooled off after the hot start, all he was hitting was ground balls
the real problem was his inability to lay off down and away pitches, which he improved a little on at the end of this year

 

[ChicagoBlues]

his hitting had really cooled off after the hot start, all he was hitting was ground balls
the real problem was his inability to lay off down and away pitches, which he improved a little on at the end of this year

He looked decent for the most part this season. Cardinals need a boost and Walker could be part of the future with the upcoming regime change.

 

[joe galiba]

He looked decent for the most part this season. Cardinals need a boost and Walker could be part of the future with the upcoming regime change.

his defense was noticeably better, if, at the big league level, he can keep laying off unhittable pitches away and learn to take the hittable pitches away to right I think he will have a good year

 

[SirPaste]

He looked decent for the most part this season. Cardinals need a boost and Walker could be part of the future with the upcoming regime change.

The guy is definitely part of the future, he is only 22 which is pretty young for baseball players, most dont break in until around 23-25. He was definitely rushed through the system and not handled correctly but without a doubt the org still sees him as a big part of the future.

 

[Memento]

The guy is definitely part of the future, he is only 22 which is pretty young for baseball players, most dont break in until around 23-25. He was definitely rushed through the system and not handled correctly but without a doubt the org still sees him as a big part of the future.

Right, and development - especially baseball prospects - is far from linear.

Chase Davis - our 2023 first round pick who is actually a few months older than Walker - didn't hit any home runs in his first season after being drafted and a lot of the last one. He struggled mightily. Now he's in Double-A and poised to be a potential left fielder of the future.

Andre Pallante turned himself from fireballer to pitcher and back to fireballer with development, and now he could potentially be our number two starter (or perhaps ace if Gray is dealt).

Hell, Rick Ankiel should be the proverbial poster-boy for "baseball development is not linear".

I trust Walker's development and his potential to be a part of the future. I trust that they have a plan with it. The vast majority of prospects aren't Pujolsian right off the bat, and they don't have to be to help our team.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

The guy is definitely part of the future, he is only 22 which is pretty young for baseball players, most dont break in until around 23-25. He was definitely rushed through the system and not handled correctly but without a doubt the org still sees him as a big part of the future.

The Cardinals have two studs in Walker and Winn. The two catchers make a decent tandem. The team needs Gorman to take a major leap, but I’m not counting on it.

I don’t know much about this specific team, but being strong up the middle is definitely key in many sports. There is some sign that the middle can be a strength.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1856804509768712544

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

 

[Memento]

f*** YES!!!!!

So happy that we managed to jump to #5. It reminds me of the Twins, in 2023, actually. They made a huge jump, got Walker Jenkins, who is currently ranked as the #2 overall prospect on MLB.com. If we could get someone similar (hoping for Xavier Neyens to solve our third base problems, permanently), add in a second-round pick, a Comp B pick (which we got because our fans didn't show up for enough games), and a bunch of smart trades both before and during the season, and we really could rebuild our entire farm system in a year.

 

[Mike Liut]

That was a pleasant surprise

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

Throw back to JD Drew being that last top 5 pick

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Throw back to JD Drew being that last top 5 pick

He had a couple good years, but I was always left wanting more. On the other hand, he came through with a solid post season in 2007 en route to a World Series Championship with the Red Sox.

 

[Memento]

He had a couple good years, but I was always left wanting more.

The best part of J.D. Drew was the moonshot he hit to the upper decks in right field in old Busch. My brother has that ball after a couple of elderly gentlemen gave it to us as kids. Drew even autographed it, and my brother was over the moon, since he was his favorite player. Seemed like a quiet dude.

I still think the best thing he contributed to the Cardinals was getting Adam Wainwright.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

The best part of J.D. Drew was the moonshot he hit to the upper decks in right field in old Busch. My brother has that ball after a couple of elderly gentlemen gave it to us as kids. Drew even autographed it, and my brother was over the moon, since he was his favorite player. Seemed like a quiet dude.

I still think the best thing he contributed to the Cardinals was getting Adam Wainwright.

I recall that moonshot. Very cool that that ball ended up with your brother. And signed, to boot!!!!

 

[TheDizee]

In addition to having the Dodgers, Padres and Angels on his wish list, Arenado would also be willing to accept a trade to the Phillies, Mets or Red Sox, per a source close to the negotiations.

Why bother trading him if all you are going to get is crumbs. Arenado has left so much to be desired during his career as a redbird.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

In addition to having the Dodgers, Padres and Angels on his wish list, Arenado would also be willing to accept a trade to the Phillies, Mets or Red Sox, per a source close to the negotiations.

Why bother trading him if all you are going to get is crumbs. Arenado has left so much to be desired during his career as a redbird.

Or the Indians or Royal or Cubs or Rays or.....you get the picture. Anywhere but STL.

 

[sbet1998]

The Cardinals have quickly become a sad joke. Lost their TV deal, trading off stars and acting like getting the 5th overall pick is a win.. I dont even need to bring up Mozeliak's horrible decisions that led them to this point..