Movies: Oscar Nominations: 2022

KallioWeHardlyKnewYe

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I don't think we'll really see any outright bad films reach the record breaking levels any more. The formula has been refined that you'll get a pleasant enough popcorn movie. Some may argue that's worse than a bad film that took a swing and a miss though.

I think there's room to consider these giant films that resonate and see if there's room to recognize them a bit more.

That said, if the academy wanted a category that would likely result in blockbusters getting more nominations that recognizes a particular craft, best stunt coordination should be added to the mix.

It's absurd that stunt work isn't recognized
 

Puck

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Well as they would say in the biz, "Spider-Man wins the box office big money award". So the studio is quite happy winning that one and less concerned with Oscars in that case.

p.s. I noticed that most flicks in the Best Film category, the Director is also the writer or a participant in the screenplay. In this modern era, this is how a Director keeps creative control over his project, away from studio interference. Except for King Richard and West Side Story. Spielberg (West Side Story) is powerful enough I suppose that he does not need to worry about studio interference in his projects. That leaves only King Richard. I'm told that one was a Will Smith passion project that also involved the Williams sisters, so no idea how that production went for the Director. It's an outlier and I'm willing to bet it does not win.
 
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guinness

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Huh, I'm looking at the nominees compared to IMDB ratings, to which I've always felt a 7/10 on there is basically saying "this is good, but not great", and something like 'Being the Riccardos' is a 6.6, 'Nightmare Alley' a 7.2, 'Power of the Dog' a 6.9, but 'Spiderman: No Way Home' gets an 8.7, but nothing on these nominations.

Sure, sure IMDB is all over the place, as is Rotten Tomatoes, but as mentioned above the disconnect between popular and critical.

Of the nominees, I want to see 'Alley' and 'Pizza'. Even though I haven't seen it, 'Don't Look Up' really surprises me. From the reviews, even here, it didn't strike me as all that great, even if liking it.
 

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Huh, I'm looking at the nominees compared to IMDB ratings, to which I've always felt a 7/10 on there is basically saying "this is good, but not great", and something like 'Being the Riccardos' is a 6.6, 'Nightmare Alley' a 7.2, 'Power of the Dog' a 6.9, but 'Spiderman: No Way Home' gets an 8.7, but nothing on these nominations.

Sure, sure IMDB is all over the place, as is Rotten Tomatoes, but as mentioned above the disconnect between popular and critical.

Of the nominees, I want to see 'Alley' and 'Pizza'. Even though I haven't seen it, 'Don't Look Up' really surprises me. From the reviews, even here, it didn't strike me as all that great, even if liking it.
The people who vote on Oscar nominations are probably quite different from a lot of people who vote on imdb. All movie buffs I'm sure but imdb tends to be more favorable towards movies that fall under geek culture.
 

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I usually see some of the nominated movies but looking through the entire list I've barely even heard of most of them and I've seen basically none of them besides the best animated film category(saw Luca, Raya, Encanto) and I made it halfway through Dune before bailing.
 

KallioWeHardlyKnewYe

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The changes to the show bum me out. I already don't like that they push the honorary Oscars to a completely separate event ... I mean sheesh Samuel L. Jackson is an honoree this year and I think he's known for a popcorn movie or two. But they're again pushing certain competitive Oscars out of the live show as well, most notably editing, which is a historically significant category.

I won't pretend to be a huge historian or stan on some of the other categories being pushed out of the show, but it just feels shitty for an event that is designed to honor the industry to willfully push some of those honors out of the main event.

To put it another way I am skeptical anyone has ever turned off the Oscars because they had the temerity to dedicate 3 minutes of their run time to editing (or sound design or whatever). It's a really lame and transparent play to an audience that I don't think exists and/or just doesn't care. Similarly I am skeptical these desired viewers are going to tune in to see what wins the popular Twitter vote.

Meanwhile I think a lot of this alienates people that really do enjoy the show for what it historically is year in and out. Devil's advocate: I'm still going to watch so although I hate many of these choices they're making, it's not like they've lost me ... that's their exact calculation ... the hardcores won't leave, but maybe they get more ...

But it's starting to remind me of the shit the sports leagues sometimes do to try to court new viewers who really just don't give a damn (NHL's laser puck is one that comes to mind from way back or the shootouts or other "Americanized" ways the MLS used to do) ... you're insulting the fans you do have while trying to chase a group of people who ultimately really do not care what you do.
 
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kihei

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I'm pretty blase about the changes actually. The Oscars affect my life so little it is impossible for me to get too worked up by their lame-ass attempts at relevancy. The new changes are a form of self-debasement, a desperate attempt to please that will likely not make much of a dent, if any, with their ratings problem.

That being said I kind of like the Twitter free-vote thing. I'd be interested to know the "People's Choice" in any given year. But even better, the voting format provides a devilish opportunity for fun mischief. I can see Twitter ganging up and supporting some really awful Nick Cage movie or some porn movie. it would serve the Academy right if something like that happened as a result of their unseemly grovelling.
 
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