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Emperoreddy

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I feel like it’s easy money that Mike Sullivan will be the head coach there next year. I’ve been calling Sullivan to the Rangers since last year.

They’ll probably need to at least lose in the cup finals for Lavi and probably even Drury to survive and get to come back for another season.

That's a lot of coaches in a short time frame for the Rags if they fire Lavi this year
 

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That's a lot of coaches in a short time frame for the Rags if they fire Lavi this year
They always go for the biggest name available.

I went over this after they fired Gallant and I forget what it came out to be, but the last time they had a head coach who wasn't very tenured, other than David Quinn when they were supposed to be rebuilding, I think it was Bryan Trottier way back in 2002. And he didn't even last the whole season.

Renney, Torts, AV, Gallant were all big names when the Rangers hired them. Same with Keenan and a couple of the guys they had in between Keenan and Trottier. Torts was interim head coach there for like a minute in 2000 after they fired I forgot who. Before he took the job in Tampa a year or so later. That's often forgotten about because no one really knew who Torts was back then and I think it was only for like 10 games or something.

They rarely have a rookie head coach or even an experienced but nobody/no name head coach. I don't think they hardly do at all when they're actually actively competing. Just Quinn a few years back when they announced they were blowing it up and rebuilding.

I'm not sure I see Drury outliving Lavi, I think he may also be a goner if they don't win the cup or at least the conference this year.

That's probably why they're supposedly in such a panic right now, wanting to get rid of big names in the middle of the season and do a mid-season shake up.
 

NJDevs26

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Speaking of coaches on the hot seat, old school
Lou would be pulling the trigger on Roy. But he probably doesn’t have the power of old school Lou.
More he doesn’t have the cache of old school Lou…when he was GM’ing a Cup contender people would put up with his trigger finger but they aren’t doing it when he’s GM’ing a mediocre team.
 
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jkrdevil

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They always go for the biggest name available.

I went over this after they fired Gallant and I forget what it came out to be, but the last time they had a head coach who wasn't very tenured, other than David Quinn when they were supposed to be rebuilding, I think it was Bryan Trottier way back in 2002. And he didn't even last the whole season.

Renney, Torts, AV, Gallant were all big names when the Rangers hired them. Same with Keenan and a couple of the guys they had in between Keenan and Trottier. Torts was interim head coach there for like a minute in 2000 after they fired I forgot who. Before he took the job in Tampa a year or so later. That's often forgotten about because no one really knew who Torts was back then and I think it was only for like 10 games or something.

They rarely have a rookie head coach or even an experienced but nobody/no name head coach. I don't think they hardly do at all when they're actually actively competing. Just Quinn a few years back when they announced they were blowing it up and rebuilding.

I'm not sure I see Drury outliving Lavi, I think he may also be a goner if they don't win the cup or at least the conference this year.

That's probably why they're supposedly in such a panic right now, wanting to get rid of big names in the middle of the season and do a mid-season shake up.
It was Muckler that Torts originally replaced on an interim. Then Sather came in as GM and hired Ron Low, who was fired for Trottier who was fired for Sather himself before Renney was hired full time at the end of 2004.
 
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It was Muckler that Torts originally replaced on an interim. Then Sather came in as GM and hired Ron Low, who was fired for Trottier who was fired for Sather himself before Renney was hired full time at the end of 2004.
Ah, yes. John Muckler and Ron Low. Both were guys they hired through the Edmonton/NYR exchange program. Muckler was a well established head coach and was the head coach for the last Edmonton cup after Gretzky left and Sather stopped being head coach and just stayed GM.

Low was a little less established and never made it past the second round in Edmonton.

And Renney did it in reverse. He went to Edmonton AFTER he was head coach of the Rangers.
 

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Triumph

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More he doesn’t have the cache of old school Lou…when he was GM’ing a Cup contender people would put up with his trigger finger but they aren’t doing it when he’s GM’ing a mediocre team.

I also don't think even he fired 3 coaches in the space of 30 months. Maybe pre-Lemaire that happened - Schoenfeld to Brooks - but that's just a completely different time in the NHL.
 

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I don’t know, this is kind of on-brand for Mika & Panarin, as is Trocheck being the face-off guy and the forward who hussled back the most.

Fox blew it on the pass and then there wasn’t much he can do. Sundqvist took out Lafreniere.

Who is the guy covering the far point that didn't bother to see which team won the faceoff and immediately went to the slot and did nothing?

He's the only guy who really went controller disconnected. Other guys did their route correctly. Close point man went back to cover and Trocheck went back to get the trailer.
 

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Who is the guy covering the far point that didn't bother to see which team won the faceoff and immediately went to the slot and did nothing?

He's the only guy who really went controller disconnected. Other guys did their route correctly. Close point man went back to cover and Trocheck went back to get the trailer.

That’s Panarin.
 

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I just love seeing how ugly it is in Boston and Pittsburgh. And obviously in NY, though they still probably get it together at some point. Telegraphed for years and now totally stuck.

For now, the turn is f***ing Cangy-level delicious. Much respect to the Caps for not imploding similarly.
 

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I just love seeing how ugly it is in Boston and Pittsburgh. And obviously in NY, though they still probably get it together at some point. Telegraphed for years and now totally stuck.

For now, the turn is f***ing Cangy-level delicious. Much respect to the Caps for not imploding similarly.
I think the Caps did start to implode similarly, but made good decisions this offseason and brought in reinforcements. Dubas (who is a bad GM) really did not.

Kuemper for Thompson is a huge upgrade. Kuemper is old and always injured and unreliable.

PLD is still meh, but I think he helps them. He’s almost definitely better than whoever played in that spot for them last year.

Losing Oshie is a huge deal. He was old, bad and not productive at all anymore. Him going to LTIR might be the best thing to happen to them this offseason. It allowed them to spend elsewhere. Losing old, slow and injured literally about 65% of the last three seasons Pacioretty and slow and hipless Backstrom (who didn’t play after the first month of last season) makes them much quicker.

Nashville went a similar route as Washington did this offseason, only they brought in too many old guys and big fish UFAs and it made the team worse. One of Stamkos or Marchessault would be great complements to a deep team. Both of them on the same team; which is already mediocre is not a recipe for success.
 

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I think the Caps did start to implode similarly, but made good decisions this offseason and brought in reinforcements. Dubas (who is a bad GM) really did not.

Kuemper for Thompson is a huge upgrade. Kuemper is old and always injured and unreliable.

PLD is still meh, but I think he helps them. He’s almost definitely better than whoever played in that spot for them last year.

Losing Oshie is a huge deal. He was old, bad and not productive at all anymore. Him going to LTIR might be the best thing to happen to them this offseason. It allowed them to spend elsewhere. Losing old, slow and injured literally about 65% of the last three seasons Pacioretty and slow and hipless Backstrom (who didn’t play after the first month of last season) makes them much quicker.

Nashville went a similar route as Washington did this offseason, only they brought in too many old guys and big fish UFAs and it made the team worse. One of Stamkos or Marchessault would be great complements to a deep team. Both of them on the same team; which is already mediocre is not a recipe for success.
It also helps that the Caps are lowkey good at developing prospects. Nashville and Pittsburgh aren't.
 
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I just love seeing how ugly it is in Boston and Pittsburgh. And obviously in NY, though they still probably get it together at some point. Telegraphed for years and now totally stuck.

For now, the turn is f***ing Cangy-level delicious. Much respect to the Caps for not imploding similarly.

As fun as the their fans’ angst is, I need the Rangers to fall below .625, and out of a playoff position, before I consider this “suffering”.
 

TheBeerNerd

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As fun as the their fans’ angst is, I need the Rangers to fall below .625, and out of a playoff position, before I consider this “suffering”.
I'm more bullish about the annual performance of the Rangers than most Rangers fans, who tend to be massive doomers. Unfortunately, you can never count them out. But even I'm thinking this could be a tipping point. Trouba himself said this is their last dance before the season started. Big changes are going to come next season no matter what happens. This may be a bump in the road or this might be the bill finally coming due for them.

I'm kind of in the middle. They'll almost certainly make the playoffs, but I think that there's a big gap in quality between them and the top three in the division. After this season, it's anyone's guess what their next steps are.
 
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