Old trades and the trees they created...full circle Wendel Clark

[Deuce Awesome]

So I waste a lot of time on Hockey DB. I love that its just raw data, nothing else. Ive spent hours following trade trees.

Wendel Clark to this day is my favorite hockey player of all time. I was a kid when he was drafted, and it was him who single handedly made me into a hockey/leafs fan. I remember getting his autograph in Peterborough at a hockey card show and was just starstruck. Only time this has ever happened to me.

Anyways....

Clark was in a few trades. I remember the first one like yesterday, pretty sure I cried.

• 1994-Jun-28 Traded from Toronto Maple Leafs with Sylvain Lefebvre, Landon Wilson and round 1 pick in the 1994 draft (Jeff Kealty) to Quebec Nordiques for Garth Butcher, Mats Sundin, Todd Warriner and round 1 pick in the 1994 draft (Nolan Baumgartner)

That was the big one. You all know it of course and its been debated for years.

• 1996-Mar-13 Traded from New York Islanders with Mathieu Schneider and D.J. Smith to Toronto Maple Leafs for Sean Haggerty, Darby Hendrickson, Kenny Jonsson and round 1 pick in the 1997 draft

Then we got him back, not the player he was in his younger years but monthly fights with Bob Probert will do that to you.

Then he signed with Tampa, and was subsequently traded to our nemesis (for me anyways)

• 1999-Mar-23 Traded from Tampa Bay Lightning with round 6 pick in the 1999 draft (Kent McDonell) to Detroit Red Wings for Kevin Hodson and round 2 pick in the 1999 draft (Sheldon Keefe)

Sheldon Keefe. Yup, our coach.

Then he resigned here in 2000, and retired a Bud.


Cheers to you Wendel!

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[Stephen]

Don’t forget the assistant coaching years D.J. Smith eventually put in with the Leafs…

Getting Clark back was such a disaster of a trade. Losing Jonsson and the Luongo pick crippled the Leafs for a decade or more afterwards. But the side trade tree branch of Schneider for Karpovtsev for McCabe worked out for us for a number of years.

 

[40BayStreet]

The greatest ever.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Wendel Clark to this day is my favorite hockey player of all time.

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• 1999-Mar-23 Traded from Tampa Bay Lightning with round 6 pick in the 1999 draft (Kent McDonell) to Detroit Red Wings for Kevin Hodson and round 2 pick in the 1999 draft (Sheldon Keefe)

Sheldon Keefe. Yup, our coach.
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Cheers to you Wendel!

Cool Keefe reference, I had no idea.

Here's to Wendel!

Don’t forget the assistant coaching years D.J. Smith eventually put in with the Leafs…

Getting Clark back was such a disaster of a trade. Losing Jonsson and the Luongo pick crippled the Leafs for a decade or more afterwards. But the side trade tree branch of Schneider for Karpovtsev for McCabe worked out for us for a number of years.

I hated that trade so much the minute it happened as Jonsson was so good, plus the pick ... I didn't remember that pick turning into Luongo though, so bad. So many bad trades over the years ...

Dubas has f***ed up a few things but he sure is a huge improvement over what we've had here for a long time. I know that's setting the bar awfully low and I don't like to do that but still, all you people wanting Dubas to be fired - careful what you wish for.

 

[Deuce Awesome]

Here is a pretty well done trade tree on the Lindros trade (yup, Wendel in there as well)

AvalancheDB - Colorado Avalanche Database

 

[Stephen]

Cool Keefe reference, I had no idea.

Here's to Wendel!




I hated that trade so much the minute it happened as Jonsson was so good, plus the pick ... I didn't remember that pick turning into Luongo though, so bad. So many bad trades over the years ...

Dubas has f***ed up a few things but he sure is a huge improvement over what we've had here for a long time. I know that's setting the bar awfully low and I don't like to do that but still, all you people wanting Dubas to be fired - careful what you wish for.

There was a point in January 1997 when the Leafs and Islanders were both at the bottom of the standings and the call in radio shows with Stormin’ Norman Rumack were doom casting the day when the Islanders would come into Maple Leaf Gardens with Thornton and Marleau up front, Kenny Jonsson on the back end and Eric Fichaud (a big time prospect the Leafs traded to the Islanders in 1995) in net and just dominate us with our own picks and prospects.

 

[Deuce Awesome]

Dubas has f***ed up a few things but he sure is a huge improvement over what we've had here for a long time. I know that's setting the bar awfully low and I don't like to do that but still, all you people wanting Dubas to be fired - careful what you wish for.

Dubas has been I would say relatively neutral. Which is fine by me. At least his worst deals are "debatable"

Cliff Fletcher came in and turned the team around, mostly on the back of the Calgary Flames.

Then, during our dark era of the early cap days, he was brought in again to "dismantle" the team that Ferguson "built" (he wanted to rebuild but ownership, namely Richard Peddie, wouldn't let him"

Older didn't mean wiser. That Steen trade....wowzers


Cliff Fletcher Trade History - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Shows his first term deals followed by second term, after his second term Blowhard Burke came in with his trucclunce truck.

The worst Leafs GM in my lifetime though was Floyd Smith. "Trader Floyd"

History of hockey trades by general manager Floyd Smith - NHL Trade Tracker

He dealt the #3 overall pick, which turned into Neidermayer, for Tom Kurvers (for those not old enough to remember, think poor man's Tyson Barrie)

 

[TheTotalPackage]

That trade back that cost us the 1st round pick which turned into Luongo still haunts me. That, along with the Rask/Raycroft trade, will forever rankle me as two of the stupidest trades in team history.

 

[Gary Nylund]

He dealt the #3 overall pick, which turned into Neidermayer, for Tom Kurvers (for those not old enough to remember, think poor man's Tyson Barrie)

That's one of the worst trades we've ever made for sure. Sittler for pretty much nothing is right up there as well. And not looking for another Dubas debate ATM so I'll just leave it at that for now.

That trade back that cost us the 1st round pick which turned into Luongo still haunts me. That, along with the Rask/Raycroft trade, will forever rankle me as two of the stupidest trades in team history.

Those were so so bad. The above are contenders as well.

 

[WillyC]

I was 20 when we drafted Wendel #1 overall… then we drafted Matthews.

These 2 have given us our best chance to win in each era.

 

[cupcrazyman]

Here is a pretty well done trade tree on the Lindros trade (yup, Wendel in there as well)

AvalancheDB - Colorado Avalanche Database

Crazy Trade Tree (6/30/92-9/9/15)
Over 23 years

 

[Nylanderthal]

That's one of the worst trades we've ever made for sure. Sittler for pretty much nothing is right up there as well. And not looking for another Dubas debate ATM so I'll just leave it at that for now.



Those were so so bad. The above are contenders as well.

Toskalol for the assets that were flipped for pick that ended up being Logan couture sucks as well.

 

[justashadowof]

Don’t forget the assistant coaching years D.J. Smith eventually put in with the Leafs…

Getting Clark back was such a disaster of a trade. Losing Jonsson and the Luongo pick crippled the Leafs for a decade or more afterwards. But the side trade tree branch of Schneider for Karpovtsev for McCabe worked out for us for a number of years.

It was a terrible move no doubt but we made it to the Conference Finals in 3 years after it.

 

[justashadowof]

I was more gutted when Eddie O, Vinny Damphousse and Al Iafrate left.

 

[fancy lad]

the trade that killed me more than anything was Russ Courtnall for John Kordic. Thanks Gord Stellick.

You know what reflecting back on Leaf trades from my youth makes me appreciate Dubas a lot more than i thought it would

 

[ACC1224]

the trade that killed me more than anything was Russ Courtnall for John Kordic. Thanks Gord Stellick.

You know what reflecting back on Leaf trades from my youth makes me appreciate Dubas a lot more than i thought it would

He still has time.

 

[fancy lad]

He still has time.

what's funny is after i typed that post i realized that both eras have the same amount of playoff success.

 

[ACC1224]

what's funny is after i typed that post i realized that both eras have the same amount of playoff success.

That will be ending soon.

 

[uncleben]

• 1994-Jun-28 Traded from Toronto Maple Leafs with Sylvain Lefebvre, Landon Wilson and round 1 pick in the 1994 draft (Jeff Kealty) to Quebec Nordiques for Garth Butcher, Mats Sundin, Todd Warriner and round 1 pick in the 1994 draft (Nolan Baumgartner)

 

[uncleben]

Crazy Trade Tree (6/30/92-9/9/15)
Over 23 years

I think this is the oldest I've got

Bob Wall, May 11, 1970-Present

 

[Clark4Ever]

So I waste a lot of time on Hockey DB. I love that its just raw data, nothing else. Ive spent hours following trade trees.

Wendel Clark to this day is my favorite hockey player of all time. I was a kid when he was drafted, and it was him who single handedly made me into a hockey/leafs fan. I remember getting his autograph in Peterborough at a hockey card show and was just starstruck. Only time this has ever happened to me.

Anyways....

Clark was in a few trades. I remember the first one like yesterday, pretty sure I cried.

• 1994-Jun-28 Traded from Toronto Maple Leafs with Sylvain Lefebvre, Landon Wilson and round 1 pick in the 1994 draft (Jeff Kealty) to Quebec Nordiques for Garth Butcher, Mats Sundin, Todd Warriner and round 1 pick in the 1994 draft (Nolan Baumgartner)

That was the big one. You all know it of course and its been debated for years.

• 1996-Mar-13 Traded from New York Islanders with Mathieu Schneider and D.J. Smith to Toronto Maple Leafs for Sean Haggerty, Darby Hendrickson, Kenny Jonsson and round 1 pick in the 1997 draft

Then we got him back, not the player he was in his younger years but monthly fights with Bob Probert will do that to you.

Then he signed with Tampa, and was subsequently traded to our nemesis (for me anyways)

• 1999-Mar-23 Traded from Tampa Bay Lightning with round 6 pick in the 1999 draft (Kent McDonell) to Detroit Red Wings for Kevin Hodson and round 2 pick in the 1999 draft (Sheldon Keefe)

Sheldon Keefe. Yup, our coach.

Then he resigned here in 2000, and retired a Bud.


Cheers to you Wendel!

After we reacquired him for the last time under Pat Quinn in 2000, there was a moment I'll never forget. I think it was his first home game, and even though he was well past his prime, he had one of his vintage end to end rushes and hit the post.

Even though he didn't score on that play, he immediately received a lengthy standing ovation from the ACC faithful that almost brought tears to his eyes on the bench.

I can't recall another professional athlete in this city that was as beloved as Wendel Clark.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Trader Cliff was on the right track, trading Clark for a younger Sundin, prepping for the day Gilmour would no longer be the top pivot. Then he went and undid all of that by re-acquiring Clark and holding on too long to a core that was no longer a contender.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

After we reacquired him for the last time under Pat Quinn in 2000, there was a moment I'll never forget. I think it was his first home game, and even though he was well past his prime, he had one of his vintage end to end rushes and hit the post.

Even though he didn't score on that play, he immediately received a lengthy standing ovation from the ACC faithful that almost brought tears to his eyes on the bench.

I can't recall another professional athlete in this city that was as beloved as Wendel Clark.

Don’t know if this is what you’re talking about but this was great from Clark at the end of his career.

 

[fancy lad]

jeez man watching this brought a tear to my eye.

Goddam we need fans back at the games. sports without fans is nothing.

 

[Clark4Ever]

Don’t know if this is what you’re talking about but this was great from Clark at the end of his career.

Thanks for posting. No, this was later on that season in the playoffs against New Jersey.

My reference was to one of his first regular season games with us after we reacquired him earlier that season.