Post-Game Talk: Oilers win in Minnesota, go find an Ark and get in it before the fire and brimstone start raining down

[McAsuno]

He's not playing with Ceci anymore, no one is playing with Ceci anymore, and everyone is playing better.

Kulak is playing like a legit top-4 defenseman and he and Nurse are playing great hockey together. Nurse is playing like a #2/3 defenseman and might be displaying his best all-around game ever.

Stetcher is providing a ton of grit and playing quite well and Emberson is basically a different version of Desharnais (imo) who skates and moves the puck better, without Vinny's size and strength (he's no slouch, but you know)

The players have improved their games, but one guy that was (as people like me were screaming) was a milestone around everyone's necks is on a different team, and also everyone is playing better.

It's not ALL Cody Ceci, but Cody Ceci was clearly part of the problem, him not being here is a significant part of the solution.


Hartman is a general dirtbag, and I don't think he's that smart.

Plus, stuff like that just happens, remember Klefa and the random broken foot lol.

He has a history of playing like a rat.

 

[TheNumber4]

He's not playing with Ceci anymore, no one is playing with Ceci anymore, and everyone is playing better.

Kulak is playing like a legit top-4 defenseman and he and Nurse are playing great hockey together. Nurse is playing like a #2/3 defenseman and might be displaying his best all-around game ever.

Stetcher is providing a ton of grit and playing quite well and Emberson is basically a different version of Desharnais (imo) who skates and moves the puck better, without Vinny's size and strength (he's no slouch, but you know)

The players have improved their games, but one guy that was (as people like me were screaming) was a milestone around everyone's necks is on a different team, and also everyone is playing better.

It's not ALL Cody Ceci, but Cody Ceci was clearly part of the problem, him not being here is a significant part of the solution.


Hartman is a general dirtbag, and I don't think he's that smart.

Plus, stuff like that just happens, remember Klefa and the random broken foot lol.

Yeh things like that just happen. It’s not like Bouch is going out there, targeting hands with his clapper lol.

That’s why I’m saying Hartman would be dumb and petty if he went for revenge for that play.

 

[Duke74]

It's an everyone problem, even though the record is not too bad and the team is doing well, like 2/3 of the forward roster are under performing.

I think Hyman is barely on pace for 20 goals himself (last night's "goal" credited to him was hilarious).

The whole team needs to come together and get it going in that regard, it shouldn't be this difficult to find offensive chemistry. I get the feeling if Jeff Skinner was on Vancouver he'd have like triple the shooting percentage and be on pace for 30+ goals.

We need to figure out why that isn't happening here.

I agree that the whole team started out poorly, but things have started to turn around. Some players are still underperforming, but I'm not entirely sure how that's Draisaitl's fault. For instance, RNH has been nearly invisible at even strength and yet he hardly ever plays with Draisaitl outside of PP. Same with Jeff Skinner and Zach Hyman, although Hyman has looked better since returning from injury. When things were bad for everyone at the beginning of the year, even the vaunted McDavid was unable to produce at ES with the team's two best wingers.

 

[Soundwave]

I agree that the whole team started out poorly, but things have started to turn around. Some players are still underperforming, but I'm not entirely sure how that's Draisaitl's fault. For instance, RNH has been nearly invisible at even strength and yet he hardly ever plays with Draisaitl outside of PP. Same with Jeff Skinner and Zach Hyman, although Hyman has looked better since returning from injury. When things were bad for everyone at the beginning of the year, even the vaunted McDavid was unable to produce at ES with the team's two best wingers.

The team is playing better, yes, largely because McDavid + Draisaitl's production + the D corps has been very good this year (if anything they are overperforming), the PK has found its footing, and Skinner has stopped playing like a bottom 5 goalie at least for a temporary stretch.

The forwards are still a bit of a mess though, there are signs it's coming, but we need to get better production from Hyman, RNH, Skinner, Henrique, Arvidsson (when he's back) and hope that Kapanen and Podkolzin can get comfortable enough to score more too, those two need to be nurtured along as part of a long play.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Wasn't that why Emberson had the staged fight? Because the Wild wanted someone from the Oilers to step up in response to Caggiula taking out Kaprizov last game? I assume Emberson was the negotiated person because he's a middle weight and Caggiula is back in Bakersfield.

Cagguila already fought that game, if that’s the reason.

Kaprizov should get ready for Kane next meeting

 

[Yuke]

Similar to Nurse not being aware of his surroundings and puck watching when smacked in the head by Reeves. Bouchard needs to know who is against and be prepared.
I will be surprised if any disciplinary action happens.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

Similar to Nurse not being aware of his surroundings and puck watching when smacked in the head by Reeves. Bouchard needs to know who is against and be prepared.
I will be surprised if any disciplinary action happens.

There was nothing Bouch could do there cone on

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Similar to Nurse not being aware of his surroundings and puck watching when smacked in the head by Reeves. Bouchard needs to know who is against and be prepared.
I will be surprised if any disciplinary action happens.

What? Who expects to get randomly blasted racing for the puck. It was textbook interference.

 

[Drivesaitl]

All I can say is it is about time Edmonton curb stomp their ass.

I felt they would do it in the playoffs too but Minny is never good enough to get beyond a round and never get out of conference so that doesn't happen. Year after year Minny are that kind of middle club that are prepared to role up sleeves and outwork opposition. You can't do that in playoffs as the other team will be more geared than they are for individual games in an 82 game season. Minny are gonna go on a bit of a dive now with injuries and with being kicked in the nuts. 7-1. haha, good time. Have to say the Minny board, they aren't that bad. Not as many fans as I'd expect but they were expecting a loss and feared the Oil. Smart enough to fear it. Puts em well beyond Cal Van rubes.

Oh, and John Herdman was right with his first HF post. "We're going to f*** the wild"

 

[McAsuno]

Similar to Nurse not being aware of his surroundings and puck watching when smacked in the head by Reeves. Bouchard needs to know who is against and be prepared.
I will be surprised if any disciplinary action happens.

If there was 10 mins left in the 3rd and the score was 3-2, then yes I'd agree. But in a sequence when the Oilers had a huge lead and only few minutes left, there was no need for Hartman to pull off that shit. He has a history of playing dirty. f*** that guy.

 

[syz]

If there was 10 mins left in the 3rd and the score was 3-2, then yes I'd agree. But in a sequence when the Oilers had a huge lead and only few minutes left, there was no need for Hartman to pull off that shit. He has a history of playing dirty. f*** that guy.

His history is why you need to be prepared. It's like being on the ice with Benn or Doan; the late stages of a blowout win are when you have to be the MOST aware of the rats.

 

[McAsuno]

His history is why you need to be prepared. It's like being on the ice with Benn or Doan; the late stages of a blowout win are when you have to be the MOST aware of the rats.

Idk who said it in the recent pages but when Draisaitl isn't pleased and started yapping at him at the bench after that crap, then I hope the team smacks him around next game.

 

[K1984]

He has a history of playing like a rat.

The one game for interference in April 2023 was the most egregious example of the NHL completely botching a suspension, and that is a high, high, high bar.

It was a black and white pre-meditated attempt to injure, and he admitted as much post game that took out a good player on the other team for the playoffs. His penalty? One game, the last of the year that he probably would have been scratched for anyways before the playoffs started.

It still pisses me off whenever I think about it. Just a rancid, ridiculous play that the NHL simply ignored.

 

[oilers4life5]

The one game for interference in April 2023 was the most egregious example of the NHL completely botching a suspension, and that is a high, high, high bar.

It was a black and white pre-meditated attempt to injure, and he admitted as much post game that took out a good player on the other team for the playoffs. His penalty? One game, the last of the year that he probably would have been scratched for anyways before the playoffs started.

It still pisses me off whenever I think about it. Just a rancid, ridiculous play that the NHL simply ignored.

NHL player safety is a joke and I bet they say nothing about another d bag move from Hartman

 

[Oilhawks]

I think we was the guy who took a Bouch bomb to the hand.

Makes me wonder if the attack on Bouch was targeted revenge now. Petty and dumb targeted revenge.

Totally. And Parros is too stupid to figure that out, so nothing will happen

 

[Tobias Kahun]

The one game for interference in April 2023 was the most egregious example of the NHL completely botching a suspension, and that is a high, high, high bar.

It was a black and white pre-meditated attempt to injure, and he admitted as much post game that took out a good player on the other team for the playoffs. His penalty? One game, the last of the year that he probably would have been scratched for anyways before the playoffs started.

It still pisses me off whenever I think about it. Just a rancid, ridiculous play that the NHL simply ignored.

The DoPS isn’t there to protect the players, it’s to protect the owners from potential lawsuits.

It’s all a front

 

[Drivesaitl]

If there was 10 mins left in the 3rd and the score was 3-2, then yes I'd agree. But in a sequence when the Oilers had a huge lead and only few minutes left, there was no need for Hartman to pull off that shit. He has a history of playing dirty. f*** that guy.

He's pretty much a loser on ice and has to go from team to team because even team mates get sick of his show. I don't think even the Wild appreciate some of what he does and eventually maybe they'll be a lack of clubs that even entertain his hackshow. Nothing but unemployment or suspension will deter this guy. You can run him, goon him, he'll still be doing the same thing as long as he's not in hospital.

The Wild have several players out injured and the goon is trying to take out other players. Away from the room everybody usually realizes thats on the wrong side of the way you ideally play. Because it comes back on teams. A guy like Kaprisov is more susceptible to being maimed than any of big Booch, Drai, or McD are, so that its dangerous to be playing this game. The prior coach went with this kind of carnival, I'm not sure how long Hartman lasts now. Might be benched by his own club eventually.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Totally. And Parros is too stupid to figure that out, so nothing will happen

Hey stupid AND corrupt, get it right.

 

[Drivesaitl]

The one game for interference in April 2023 was the most egregious example of the NHL completely botching a suspension, and that is a high, high, high bar.

It was a black and white pre-meditated attempt to injure, and he admitted as much post game that took out a good player on the other team for the playoffs. His penalty? One game, the last of the year that he probably would have been scratched for anyways before the playoffs started.

It still pisses me off whenever I think about it. Just a rancid, ridiculous play that the NHL simply ignored.

What strikes me in my worst days is its shit and giggle rigged and DOPS sits their in the room with cases of beer laughing their heads at trolling this stuff and fan and team reactions to it. Its like a drunk carnival. Alternately it doesn't escape me that for 50yrs the NHL has liked and loved the sideshow that violence and mayhem provides. It sells tickets, gets in papers and the league loves its controversy much like a soap story does. So that its even contrived that goons like Hartman get free passes.

Dops or the NHL has never been serious about it being about protecting players. Its the dirty joke of a league desperate to sell tickets and views that they promote controversy. They want and LOVE players like Hartman. Unfortunately it seems as much as they love the Star players in the game. This is a league that cancelled Careers like Lindros and many others before him. Its a league that to present day fights in court that theres no connection between hockey violence, head injuries and CTE and such. A league that dances just enough to avoid flat out losing lawsuits and being sued.

Look at junk like the Bertuzzi incident. It took courts and official assault charges for the league to take it seriously. Or the McSorley incident, or the 100others.

The leagues know as well that the one thing that sold in Minny beyond everything else was the fight. They all got up and cheered that more than they do any goals scored. Everybody in the rink out of their seats in anticipation. NHL have been this since I started watching. They do just enough to keep Police from being on ice. (tongue in cheek as some of this post is)

Hey stupid AND corrupt, get it right.

Not actually stupid. Just an ahole that would laugh at this and invite Hartman over for some fun. Some of these goons probably party with him after their "hearing" even if they get one. That Parros is in the position he is and that goons have been before says all that really needs to be said. Its like hiring the mob to do policing. (again tongue in cheek) and some venting.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Not actually stupid. Just an ahole that would laugh at this and invite Hartman over for some fun. Some of these goons probably party with him after their "hearing" even if they get one.

No, he's stupid, getting a degree doesn't mean your smart.

 

[Drivesaitl]

No, he's stupid, getting a degree doesn't mean your smart.

Yes, um.

"You're" heh

 

[K1984]

What strikes me in my worst days is its shit and giggle rigged and DOPS sits their in the room with cases of beer laughing their heads at trolling this stuff and fan and team reactions to it. Its like a drunk carnival. Alternately it doesn't escape me that for 50yrs the NHL has liked and loved the sideshow that violence and mayhem provides. It sells tickets, gets in papers and the league loves its controversy much like a soap story does. So that its even contrived that goons like Hartman get free passes.

Dops or the NHL has never been serious about it being about protecting players. Its the dirty joke of a league desperate to sell tickets and views that they promote controversy. They want and LOVE players like Hartman. Unfortunately it seems as much as they love the Star players in the game. This is a league that cancelled Careers like Lindros and many others before him. Its a league that to present day fights in court that theres no connection between hockey violence, head injuries and CTE and such. A league that dances just enough to avoid flat out losing lawsuits and being sued.

Look at junk like the Bertuzzi incident. It took courts and official assault charges for the league to take it seriously. Or the McSorley incident, or the 100others.

The leagues know as well that the one thing that sold in Minny beyond everything else was the fight. They all got up and cheered that more than they do any goals scored. Everybody in the rink out of their seats in anticipation. NHL have been this since I started watching. They do just enough to keep Police from being on ice. (tongue in cheek as some of this post is)


Not actually stupid. Just an ahole that would laugh at this and invite Hartman over for some fun. Some of these goons probably party with him after their "hearing" even if they get one.

Respect your opinion, but I think if that were true the NHL wouldn’t be obsessive about severely penalizing retribution plays on ice.

The NHL seems perfectly ok with a player like Hartman taking out a star player because any attempt to get square when the officials inevitably “miss” it puts your team on the PK.

The league knows who the scum are that deliberately try to injure other players, they just choose to do nothing about it, then punish the teams that take the policing into their own hands.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Yes, um.

"You're" heh

Well played lol

Respect your opinion, but I think if that were true the NHL wouldn’t be obsessive about severely penalizing retribution plays on ice.

The NHL seems perfectly ok with a player like Hartman taking out a star player because any attempt to get square when the officials inevitably “miss” it puts your team on the PK.

The league knows who the scum are that deliberately try to injure other players, they just choose to do nothing about it, then punish the teams that take the policing into their own hands.

One of the Oilers bloggers posted it after something else, I think the Reeves suspension.

"If you remember that the NHL is a 2nd class professional sports league, everything they do makes perfect sense"

It frustrates me, but it's absolutely true.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Both interesting and not ideal.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Respect your opinion, but I think if that were true the NHL wouldn’t be obsessive about severely penalizing retribution plays on ice.

The NHL seems perfectly ok with a player like Hartman taking out a star player because any attempt to get square when the officials inevitably “miss” it puts your team on the PK.

The league knows who the scum are that deliberately try to injure other players, they just choose to do nothing about it, then punish the teams that take the policing into their own hands.

Watch this league long enough for 50-60yrs through players gladiator stick swinging at each others heads (yes this used to happen regularly or the Expansion Blues and then later the Philly Flyers, Stevens Devils etc and you will more and more come to the opinion I expressed.

The DOPS is an illusion. The department of acting like they do something. Just enough for optics, for NHLPA, and to keep out of more court lawsuits and inquiry. The NHL has been a bad actor so long I don't know how there hasn't been more external substantive investigation Unfortunately and ultimately NHL killing itself anyway as more and more parents won't let their kids pursue this sport to its NHL mayhem conclusion Hockey is having immense problems with participation now, and really per population plummeting participation. I give it around 20-30 yrs and the wheels fall off if not sooner due to external actions.