Value of: Oilers Trade Bouchard

[oil10]

Oilers NEED to fix the D-core and they should trade Bouchard while his value is high.

Oilers don't need the offensive D-man, they need more shut-down Defensemen. Oilers have enough fire power up front that they can trade Bouchard.

I would also love to trade Nurse, but his cap is what will keep him in Edmonton. So the Oilers need to trade Bouchard so they don't make the same mistake they did signing Nurse to the terrible contract.

So, my question is, What top Shut-down D-man can the Oilers get??
(of course other assets would be included)

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[ManofSteel55]

I think its been proven time and time again, that most on HF don't value Bouchard like we do.

Who plays the PP if Bouchard is traded? Just curious.

 

[oXo Cube]

Trading one of the two good defencemen you have doesn't strike me as a good way to make the defence better.

But what do I know I'm just words on the internet.

 

[The Nuge]

You don’t trade a PPG top pairing dman because you lack a #4 dman…

 

[TFHockey]

This is all kinds of a bad idea.

Getting help in the top 4 doesn't mean you trade your best offensive ppg defenseman.

A top 4 RHD should cost you some picks and/or prospects, while moving out a contract to stay cap compliant.

That is what NHL level GMs are supposed to be able to do.

 

[KevinRedkey]

For years the Oilers needed a PMD. Now that they have one, get rid of him! Lol

 

[BleedBlue14]

This is all kinds of a bad idea.

Getting help in the top 4 doesn't mean you trade your best offensive ppg defenseman.

A top 4 RHD should cost you some picks and/or prospects, while moving out a contract to stay cap compliant.

That is what NHL level GMs are supposed to be able to do.

legitimate question, what contract can the Oilers afford to move out at the moment that doesn't have heavy trade protection?

I think you can still piece it together year by year by trading out Kulak if you need cap this season etc, but it seems like they're going to continually have to rob Peter to pay Paul under the McDrai era if they sign Bouchard to a large deal until Nurse's contract expires

 

[VivaLasVegas]

Oilers NEED to fix the D-core and they should trade Bouchard while his value is high.

Oilers don't need the offensive D-man, they need more shut-down Defensemen. Oilers have enough fire power up front that they can trade Bouchard.

I would also love to trade Nurse, but his cap is what will keep him in Edmonton. So the Oilers need to trade Bouchard so they don't make the same mistake they did signing Nurse to the terrible contract.

So, my question is, What top Shut-down D-man can the Oilers get??
(of course other assets would be included)

This should be good.

 

[Baksfamous112]

I think its been proven time and time again, that most on HF don't value Bouchard like we do.

Who plays the PP if Bouchard is traded? Just curious.

HF value Bouchard just fine. Bouchard valuing Bouchard is the biggest issue here. Wanting 11M+ a year because he’s getting the puck to McDavid or Draisaitl before they make insane plays is a joke and the rest of the league is able to see through it.

 

[SirloinUB]

If the oilers could pull off a Tkachuk style trade where they land multiple NHL contributors for the top half of the lineup, a 1st and a decent prospect, they should probably consider it.

I don't think they can and thus they should keep Bouchard.

 

[TFHockey]

legitimate question, what contract can the Oilers afford to move out at the moment that doesn't have heavy trade protection?

I think you can still piece it together year by year by trading out Kulak if you need cap this season etc, but it seems like they're going to continually have to rob Peter to pay Paul under the McDrai era if they sign Bouchard to a large deal until Nurse's contract expires

I think they'll have to move a contract like Kulak's or Henrique's.

You can't deal Bouchard. He is a RHD, top pairing, young, ppg, home grown and developed, pretty much impossible to replace.

I also wanted to move him last year but that would've been a mistake and there was no one available that could take his minutes.

 

[Barsky]

HF value Bouchard just fine. Bouchard valuing Bouchard is the biggest issue here. Wanting 11M+ a year because he’s getting the puck to McDavid or Draisaitl before they make insane plays is a joke and the rest of the league is able to see through it.

Exactly this

 

[VeteranPresence]

What? No.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Oilers should keep Bouchard IMO, and solve their problem at the TDL by trading with rebuilding teams

 

[SEALBound]

What they might be able to do is trade Bouchard for two dmen by weaponizing their cap space a bit. If you can find a middling team with two dmen in the $3-5mil range, offer a team Bouchard for both. They are a little older than what is realistic but something like Bouchard for Savard+Matheson. You'd likely have to find one of them that are mid-20s like Bouchard.

The Edmonton roster is just so odd to me right now. It really lacks young players, there's few prospects, and they don't have any roster players that return value that they can afford to part with (with the minor exception being RNH). Unless they want to start shelling out 1st round picks which is highly reasonable given the situation. Penguins would likely send you Pettersson for a 2026 1st and a 25 3rd.

 

[LeonDraisaitl]

We need to fix our defense by trading our best defenseman? Nah we need to add actual quality to play with him. Sucks we have a 9million anchor

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Any trade involving Bouchard out of Edmonton will most likely be a loss in value.

He was a top 10 D men last year. Top 5 in playoffs.

He has his warts but he is ridiculously good.

Edit: was going to offer a plan for what to do. But man the Oilers have the cap eaten up everywhere.

They have the talent

 

[ManofSteel55]

HF value Bouchard just fine. Bouchard valuing Bouchard is the biggest issue here. Wanting 11M+ a year because he’s getting the puck to McDavid or Draisaitl before they make insane plays is a joke and the rest of the league is able to see through it.

You have proven my point with that statement sir, but thanks. Bouchard is far more than just the guy on the blueline when McDavid and Drai are on the ice.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

We need to fix our defense by trading our best defenseman? Nah we need to add actual quality to play with him. Sucks we have a 9million anchor

Is he overpaid? Yes. Is he completely 9 million dollars wasted? No.

He's a 6 to 7 million dollar defensemen overpaid because he lost his PP job and he signed 2 bridge deals and going to UFA to get paid.

Using hockeystatcards
The game against Columbus he was the 4th best skater against them.

Nurse is not the reason Oilers are not doing as well.

 

[ManofSteel55]

We need to fix our defense by trading our best defenseman? Nah we need to add actual quality to play with him. Sucks we have a 9million anchor

That anchor has actually been pretty good so far this year. Consistency issues as always, but he hasn't been so bad that we need to refer to him as an anchor right now, even with his cap hit. He's been as good as any of our other defensemen. The issue is finding him a partner. That's what we really need to do, but we can't do that today because we need to accumulate more LTIR space before we can add a big piece and still have room to activate Kane (and maybe McDavid) from LTIR when they are healthy again.

I'm voting "no" on the "Trade Bouchard" front, unless it is a clear win for the Oilers - but that won't happen.

 

[bernmeister]

1. Do not concur w/OP that dealing Bouchard is nec/best way to go.
Howev, as a courtesy, willing to examine w/an open mind.

2. Idea is to improve D, specifically.
That suggests idea is to trade 1 great D for 2 good ones, something like dat.
If that is the model Rs are out, we won't do like KAM + Schneider for Bouchard

3. Not sure which if any teams can do that.
Possible exception is Habs, who have lots of solid D prospects; but who/how many there are ready to step up now w/Oil seeking win now?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

This is the absolute worst possible idea the Oilers could run with.

you don't rip out pieces of the bottom of the boat because the seat broke.

Bouchard isn't what's wrong with the Oilers, it's what's right with them. They don't need to trade him, they need to find the Great Value version of Bouchard and trade for that guy and pair him with Nurse.

What they might be able to do is trade Bouchard for two dmen by weaponizing their cap space a bit. If you can find a middling team with two dmen in the $3-5mil range, offer a team Bouchard for both. They are a little older than what is realistic but something like Bouchard for Savard+Matheson. You'd likely have to find one of them that are mid-20s like Bouchard.

The Edmonton roster is just so odd to me right now. It really lacks young players, there's few prospects, and they don't have any roster players that return value that they can afford to part with (with the minor exception being RNH). Unless they want to start shelling out 1st round picks which is highly reasonable given the situation. Penguins would likely send you Pettersson for a 2026 1st and a 25 3rd.

Shoot me directly in my f***ing face. Empty the goddamn clip Savard gets curbstomped on a nightly basis and Matheson is a lefty that would be playing third pairing. Please for the love of Christ, Edmonton, don't remotely consider anything like this.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

legitimate question, what contract can the Oilers afford to move out at the moment that doesn't have heavy trade protection?

I think you can still piece it together year by year by trading out Kulak if you need cap this season etc, but it seems like they're going to continually have to rob Peter to pay Paul under the McDrai era if they sign Bouchard to a large deal until Nurse's contract expires

Not much. Even goddamn Janmark got trade protection.

If it comes down to it, the biggest contracts that are A) not protected B) tradeable C) not a foundation of the team and D) might have some value to someone are Henrique and Kulak.

Depending on what McDavid's injury situation looks like the move might be to LTIR Kane and see what they can find for D help that's maybe a bit overpriced. The forwards I actually think will be fine. The underlying numbers for the top 3 lines are all pretty strong, there's just no finishing right now.

 

[57special]

They fix their D core by trading one of their first pairing Dmen? They don't need him to QB the PP?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

They fix their D core by trading one of their first pairing Dmen? They don't need him to QB the PP?

Not to worry, nothing bad can happen with a right side of Stecher, ???, Emberson, right?