Official Training Camp Thread

[ULF_55]

I don't find this a complicated scenario either. We don't need to pay more to anybody. We don't need to trade anybody. We have a good group of forwards, and we should play our better forwards more than our worse forwards, and in situations and configurations that play to our player's strengths - like, for example, playing our best playmaker with our best goal scorer. People are way overthinking things.

Perhaps people are looking for an edge.

Here's an extreme of what I'm suggesting.

Option 1:
Bunting-Matthews-marner
Kerfoot-Tavares-Nylander
Engvall-Kampf-Jarnkrok
Clifford-Gaudette-Simmonds

Versus

Option 2:
Bunting-Matthews-marner
Kerfoot-Tavares-Nylander
Engvall-Schiefele-Jarnkrok
Clifford-Kampf

I'd go with option 2.

 

[aingefan]

The team seems to like him.
My guess is a Kerfoot trade, allowing the team to keep a few guys, and Gaudette centring the third line stub NickRob on his flank .
Nick’s accustomed to getting feeds from RHC.

 

[LeafChief]

I'm surprised at how much opportunity Gaudette looks like he is going to get. Fully expected him to be one of the guys placed on waivers.

Would be a nice surprise if he has a strong camp. Good for him considering allof the health issues he's had. He was a very promising prospect coming out of the NCAA at the time.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

Douglas is going to have his hands full in that group 2 game. Almost guaranteed to see him fight either Kastelic/Sabourin/Boucher.

Should have split up Simmonds/Clifford.

If Douglas beat Devane last year, I don't think he should have a problem with those guys

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Gaudette seems like Amadio 2.0. Hopefully I’m wrong, but we’ll see I guess.

 

[zeke]

Gaudette seems like Amadio 2.0. Hopefully I’m wrong, but we’ll see I guess.

Gaudette is likely on waivers in 2 weeks. Even earlier than Amadio was.

 

[zeke]

 

[Knies iT]

If Douglas beat Devane last year, I don't think he should have a problem with those guys

The point is he's not going to fight 3 people in one game and they're all rats.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Here's an extreme of what I'm suggesting.

Option 1:
Bunting-Matthews-marner
Kerfoot-Tavares-Nylander
Engvall-Kampf-Jarnkrok
Clifford-Gaudette-Simmonds

Versus

Option 2:
Bunting-Matthews-marner
Kerfoot-Tavares-Nylander
Engvall-Schiefele-Jarnkrok
Clifford-Kampf

I'd go with option 2.

1. Option 2 isn't an option. Scheifele isn't on our team, and even aside from the issue of acquiring him, you've added 6.125m in cap + the cost of the 7th defenseman, and only removed 1.65m.
2. Even if we had the players in option 2, it would still be better to have another 4th liner instead of a 7th D, and to play Scheifele in the top 6.
3. The discussion was about splitting up our 11m players onto 3 lines. Neither of your suggestions do that, so I'm not sure the relevance to what I said.

 

[ULF_55]

1. Option 2 isn't an option. Scheifele isn't on our team, and even aside from the issue of acquiring him, you've added 6.125m in cap + the cost of the 7th defenseman, and only removed 1.65m.
2. Even if we had the players in option 2, it would still be better to have another 4th liner instead of a 7th D, and to play Scheifele in the top 6.
3. The discussion was about splitting up our 11m players onto 3 lines. Neither of your suggestions do that, so I'm not sure the relevance to what I said.

Yeah, I'm off on the road but I'll get back to you ...

 

[Knies iT]

I've got no time for Gaudette, Malgin, etc. Going to be keying in on Robertson, Holmberg, and Anderson as the most likely internal options to lock down a spot. With Engvall out, Holmberg has a massive opportunity and he brings a similar 2-way game. Easily the most versatile guy of the three. I think people will like him quickly.

Would like to see Robertson/Holmberg experimented in a rotation on 2/3 LW until Engvall is healthy (or Holmberg/Jarnkrok at 3C).

Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Robertson - Tavares - Nylander
Holmberg - Kerfoot - Jarnkrok
ZAR - Kampf - Aube Kubel
[Anderson]

 

[leafsfan5]

Alex Galchenyuk actually kind of paid off, except for that one brutal play. I think Gaudette is more like Vesey, where he will end up off the team

I kind of wished we had kept Galchenyuk, he worked well with Kerfoot/Nylander

His turnover was the worst Leaf play of this current era, but outside of that he wasn't bad. Decent depth piece

 

[Menzinger]

I kind of wished we had kept Galchenyuk, he worked well with Kerfoot/Nylander

His turnover was the worst Leaf play of this current era, but outside of that he wasn't bad. Decent depth piece

One of the strangest players I've seen. offensively a legit top 6 forward but was an absolute black hole defensively. Made Kessel look like Bergeron

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

I kind of wished we had kept Galchenyuk, he worked well with Kerfoot/Nylander

His turnover was the worst Leaf play of this current era, but outside of that he wasn't bad. Decent depth piece

Unfortunately his agent really bungled things and ended up ruining his career. It really did look like there was a solid contributor there that a good team could have taken advantage of, but oh well. He was a cut above the other dumpster diving moves Dubas has made

 

[Stephen]

Unfortunately his agent really bungled things and ended up ruining his career. It really did look like there was a solid contributor there that a good team could have taken advantage of, but oh well. He was a cut above the other dumpster diving moves Dubas has made

His career is still ongoing. He’s landed a PTO with the Avalanche.

 

[Stephen]

Now's the time to test players out.

I’m guessing they want to see if they can strip down the top 2 lines a bit and if the fill in guys can back fill those gaps. If the answer is yes you can revisit the Babcock notion of spreading the talent out a little thinner and have more punch on the third line.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

His career is still ongoing. He’s landed a PTO with the Avalanche.

True, but only something like 10-20% of PTOs lead to a contract. I wish him well, but I doubt he can crack the Avs roster

 

[Burnie97]

2nd mask is looking decent

 

[zeke]

True, but only something like 10-20% of PTOs lead to a contract. I wish him well, but I doubt he can crack the Avs roster

Avs don't have much that's gonna beat him out for a spot tbh.

 

[IPS]

I kind of wished we had kept Galchenyuk, he worked well with Kerfoot/Nylander

His turnover was the worst Leaf play of this current era, but outside of that he wasn't bad. Decent depth piece

Fun fact: Galchenyuk's blind pass leading to the 2 on 0 was actually Zach Bogosian's fault.

 

[Stephen]

True, but only something like 10-20% of PTOs lead to a contract. I wish him well, but I doubt he can crack the Avs roster

Avs have some very shaky depth this year.

 

[zeke]

Fun fact: Galchenyuk's blind pass leading to the 2 on 0 was actually Zach Bogosian's fault.

Alex Galchenyuk didn’t give the puck away. The Canadiens took it.

Aggressive play from the Habs as a unit forced their ex-forward into an untenable situation.

www.habseyesontheprize.com

 

[IPS]

Alex Galchenyuk didn’t give the puck away. The Canadiens took it.

Aggressive play from the Habs as a unit forced their ex-forward into an untenable situation.

www.habseyesontheprize.com

"3. Abandon the play by carrying the puck back to the neutral zone.

Technically, #3 is the safest play here, but it is incredibly rare for an NHLer to voluntarily leave the offensive zone in a five-on-five situation."

I love how this random blogger answers his own question but instead poses some weird theory to justify Galchenyuk's mind numbingly bad decision.

Getting the puck to safety when you're out of options is day 1 kind of shit. If there's any coaches out there who would scold a player for exiting the offensive zone instead of making a completely blind pass towards the blue line with the opposition in a 1-3-1 formation then they probably didn't coach for too long.

 

[andora]

It would interesting to count how many times that play happens and then how many times the player throws a blind pass along the blueline

 

[IPS]

It would interesting to count how many times that play happens and then how many times the player throws a blind pass along the blueline

I mean unless you have hands like Datsyuk or Kane and you can just dangle out the pressuring player you kind of have to kill the offensive zone play. And seeing as it's a playoff elimination game yeah I kind of f***ing think most players aren't worried about killing 1 single offensive zone sequence over risking an odd-man rush.

Blaming this on Zach Bogosian might be one of the worst things I've ever read on this board.