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stickty111 said:
With traning camp beginning Sunday, may as well start this up. Leafs are probably going to announce their camp roster any time now.

Leafs speaking to media Sunday. On ice stuff begin Monday.
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Trevor Lewis won't be there. He is going to Winnipeg.

I imagine they are going to offer some guys they may look at for either the taxi-squad or the AHL. They brought in guys like Matt Read last year on a PTO and then brought him in on an AHL deal after that, so there will likely be a few moves like that for the Marlies. They need a defensive defenseman for depth, assuming Marincin and Rosen are on the taxi-squad, and at least one forward if Malgin is not coming back over this year.

Not all of those guys will be there on a PTO, since they can only have like 36 skaters (plus like 5 goalies) in total I think, but there should still be a number of moves.

Forwards (21)
C Auston Matthews
C John Tavares
C Alex Kerfoot
C Joe Thornton
C/RW Jason Spezza
LW Zach Hyman
LW Ilya Mikheyev
LW Jimmy Vesey
LW Nick Robertson
LW Pierre Engvall
RW Mitch Marner
RW William Nylander
RW Wayne Simmonds
RW Alex Barabanov
C/RW Travis Boyd
LW/RW Nic Petan
RW Joey Anderson
C Adam Brooks
LW Kenny Agostino
RW Denis Malgin/PTO
PTO

Defenseman (15)
LD Morgan Rielly
RD T.J. Brodie
LD Jake Muzzin
RD Travis Dermott
LD Mikko Lehtonen
RD Zach Bogosian
RD Justin Holl
LD Rasmus Sandin
RD Timothy Liljegren
LD Calle Rosen
LD Martin Marincin
LD Kristians Rubins
RD Mac Hollowell
RD Joseph Duszak
LD Teemu Kivihalme

Goalies (5)
G Frederik Andersen
G Jack Campbell
G Aaron Dell
G Joseph Woll
G Michael Hutchinson

Is my guess.
 
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SeaOfBlue said:
Trevor Lewis won't be there. He is going to Winnipeg.

I imagine they are going to offer some guys they may look at for either the taxi-squad or the AHL. They brought in guys like Matt Read last year on a PTO and then brought him in on an AHL deal after that, so there will likely be a few moves like that for the Marlies. They need a defensive defenseman for depth, assuming Marincin and Rosen are on the taxi-squad, and at least one forward if Malgin is not coming back over this year.

Not all of those guys will be there on a PTO, since they can only have like 36 skaters (plus like 5 goalies) in total I think, but there should still be a number of moves.

Forwards (21)
C Auston Matthews
C John Tavares
C Alex Kerfoot
C Joe Thornton
C/RW Jason Spezza
LW Zach Hyman
LW Ilya Mikheyev
LW Jimmy Vesey
LW Nick Robertson
LW Pierre Engvall
RW Mitch Marner
RW William Nylander
RW Wayne Simmonds
RW Alex Barabanov
C/RW Travis Boyd
LW/RW Nic Petan
RW Joey Anderson
C Adam Brooks
LW Kenny Agostino
RW Denis Malgin/PTO
PTO

Defenseman (15)
LD Morgan Rielly
RD T.J. Brodie
LD Jake Muzzin
RD Travis Dermott
LD Mikko Lehtonen
RD Zach Bogosian
RD Justin Holl
LD Rasmus Sandin
RD Timothy Liljegren
LD Calle Rosen
LD Martin Marincin
LD Kristians Rubins
RD Mac Hollowell
RD Joseph Duszak
LD Teemu Kivihalme

Goalies (5)
G Frederik Andersen
G Jack Campbell
G Aaron Dell
G Joseph Woll
G Michael Hutchinson

Is my guess.
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Any guess on some of those PTOs?
 
LeafChief said:
Any guess on some of those PTOs?
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Just throwing names but here are some options:
Forwards:
-Brendan Perlini
-Michael Grabner
-Colin Wilson
-Nick Shore
-Brian Boyle
-Brett Ritchie
-Brendan Gaunce
-Remi Elie

Defence:
-Madison Bowey
-Mirco Mueller
-Fredric Claesson
-Cameron Gaunce
-Rinat Valiev
 
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LeafChief said:
Any guess on some of those PTOs?
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We haven't been linked to any now that Lewis is in Winnipeg.

I personally hope some younger guys like Perlini or Bowey (he is a defenseman but we still need someone and he would be a good fit for the Marlies or on the taxi squad).

Otherwise we could look at Gauthier (if he is not in Arizona) or Nick Shore again. Maybe Brett Ritchie or Brendan Gaunce if we want some size.
 
SeaOfBlue said:
Trevor Lewis won't be there. He is going to Winnipeg.

I imagine they are going to offer some guys they may look at for either the taxi-squad or the AHL. They brought in guys like Matt Read last year on a PTO and then brought him in on an AHL deal after that, so there will likely be a few moves like that for the Marlies. They need a defensive defenseman for depth, assuming Marincin and Rosen are on the taxi-squad, and at least one forward if Malgin is not coming back over this year.

Not all of those guys will be there on a PTO, since they can only have like 36 skaters (plus like 5 goalies) in total I think, but there should still be a number of moves.

Forwards (21)
C Auston Matthews
C John Tavares
C Alex Kerfoot
C Joe Thornton
C/RW Jason Spezza
LW Zach Hyman
LW Ilya Mikheyev
LW Jimmy Vesey
LW Nick Robertson
LW Pierre Engvall
RW Mitch Marner
RW William Nylander
RW Wayne Simmonds
RW Alex Barabanov
C/RW Travis Boyd
LW/RW Nic Petan
RW Joey Anderson
C Adam Brooks
LW Kenny Agostino
RW Denis Malgin/PTO
PTO

Defenseman (15)
LD Morgan Rielly
RD T.J. Brodie
LD Jake Muzzin
RD Travis Dermott
LD Mikko Lehtonen
RD Zach Bogosian
RD Justin Holl
LD Rasmus Sandin
RD Timothy Liljegren
LD Calle Rosen
LD Martin Marincin
LD Kristians Rubins
RD Mac Hollowell
RD Joseph Duszak
LD Teemu Kivihalme

Goalies (5)
G Frederik Andersen
G Jack Campbell
G Aaron Dell
G Joseph Woll
G Michael Hutchinson

Is my guess.
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Why do you have a PTO next to Malgin's name? He has a 1 year $700,000 contract for the 2020-21 season.
 
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So I got a 21 man squad with about $500k of capspace left:

Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Mikheyev-Tavares-Marner
Thornton-Kerfoot-Spezza
Vesey-Engvall-Simmonds

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Holl
Dermott-Bogosian
Lehtonen

Anderson
Campbell

6 man Taxi Squad:

Barabanov-Boyd-Anderson
Robertson

Sandin

Dell
 
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zeke said:
So I got a 21 man squad with about $500k of capspace left:

Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Mikheyev-Tavares-Marner
Thornton-Kerfoot-Spezza
Vesey-Engvall-Simmonds

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Holl
Dermott-Bogosian
Lehtonen

Anderson
Campbell

6 man Taxi Squad:

Barabanov-Boyd-Anderson
Robertson

Sandin

Dell
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I think this will be the final lineup when it all comes down to it. Happy with that.
 
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zeke said:
PP1:

Nylander
Marner ---- Tavares -- Matthews
Rielly

PP2:

Mikheyev
Spezza ---- Kerfoot -- Thornton
Muzzin


PK1:

Mikheyev-Engvall
Muzzin-Holl

PK2:

Kerfoot-Hyman
Brodie-Bogosian


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Zeke, what about Brodie QB on PP2 instead of Muzz. Move back Muzz to PK? I like Muzz shot just worried about his skating ability incase if PP boys mess up and we gotta go back.
 
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MattySnipes said:
Zeke, what about Brodie QB on PP2 instead of Muzz. Move back Muzz to PK? I like Muzz shot just worried about his skating ability incase if PP boys mess up and we gotta go back.
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Honestly all of muzz/brodie/dermott are capable. And of course lehtonen and Sandin when they are in.

And Hyman might have earned himself another look on PP2 too.
 
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Even Strength point paces last 5yrs, from most recent to oldest:

Rielly: 35, 51, 29, 24, 27 ----> 39 last 3yrs, 33 last 5yrs
Barrie: 32, 36, 33, 31, 27 ----> 33 last 3yrs, 32 last 5yrs
Muzzin: 34, 32, 30, 18, 26 --> 32 last 3yrs, 28 last 5yrs
Brodie: 23, 30, 24, 22, 40 ---> 26 last 3yrs, 28 last 5yrs


Muzzin's offense gets plenty underrated. And his big shot is a nice change of pace on PP2 too.
 
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I'm not sure what the bottom 6 will look like, but the Leafs have a lot of NHLers to choose from. All of Kerfoot, Thornton, Spezza, Barabanov, Engvall, Brooks, Robertson, Agostino, Simmonds, Boyd, Vesey, Petan, Malgin, Korshkov, and Anderson could reasonable slot in somewhere there
 
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Still think one of those PTO's should be some grease. Roster is still not tough enough. Banking on the core to become tough is a fools bet IMO. They haven't shown the compete, the hunger. We need a roster that covers this weakness and can play the game they can't.
 
zeke said:
So I got a 21 man squad with about $500k of capspace left:

Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Mikheyev-Tavares-Marner
Thornton-Kerfoot-Spezza
Vesey-Engvall-Simmonds

Rielly-Brodie
Muzzin-Holl
Dermott-Bogosian
Lehtonen

Anderson
Campbell

6 man Taxi Squad:

Barabanov-Boyd-Anderson
Robertson

Sandin

Dell
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Pretty much what I got too. Only thing I'm not sure of is Engvall in the starting 12 or taxi squad for one of the other 4 forwards on your taxi squad. Though Engvall is probably going to get it.
 
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HockeyVirus said:
Still think one of those PTO's should be some grease. Roster is still not tough enough. Banking on the core to become tough is a fools bet IMO. They haven't shown the compete, the hunger. We need a roster that covers this weakness and can play the game they can't.
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Bringing in a PTO, that won’t see game play, or very restricted playing time, isn’t going to change the mentality of the team. No matter who you bring in, if our core don’t show the compete, the hunger you speak of, it won’t matter anyway.
 
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Not sure I like the idea of a Thornton Kerfoot Spezza line, seems like too much passing.

I didn't mind Kerfoot on Tavares wing, maybe something like

Kerfoot Tavares Nylander
Soup- Thornton- Simmonds/Anderson
Barabanov/engvall/Vesey - Spezza - Simmonds/Anderson

Not sure how that looks capwise.. and there's the Robertson wildcard in there... So many options. Excited to see how the roster shakes out.
 
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