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Not sure SDS understands the meaning of "face of the franchise" but sure i guess.

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This card probably gets lit up because of the low velocity but cool to see Manoah get some recognition.
 
dredeye said:
How is anything that's been said cancel culture? It was a stupid mistake and hopefully it wasn't a bad one. Like maybe he just blew over. I'm not saying fire him but that's certainly a possibility
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I tend to agree. A few years back I don't necessarily think a DUI would elicit "fire" talk as it would trying to get the person some much needed help.

I think, as mentioned by a poster, it's the sponsors who likely will be the ones who force the team's hand.
 
Morgs said:
Because he committed a crime, and usually when a Canadian commits a crime they can't cross the border for x amount of time. I assume it's the same for Americans. Not to mention how it can be a distraction and set a bad example in the organization, and send the wrong message to players and fans if they don't do anything about it?

Not exactly rocket science here. I'm not saying "they should fire him" I'm wondering if they will.
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Walker is not getting fired.
 
If this is a first offence and he didn't do anything super egregious (we already know he didn't hurt/kill anyone, so that's the big one) he's almost certainly not getting fired. He probably gets fined and suspended pending completion of either a treatment program (if this is a sign that he has issues with drinking) or some sort of education program to help him make better choices (if this was a one-off mistake).

It's also probably an opportunity for him to partner with MADD or whoever to use this incident as way for him to engage with the community about the dangers and not doing what he did.

If it turns out this is just the first publicly recognized offence in a string of issues dating back before now, then yeah he would (and should) get fired.
 
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I'm not going to say DUI is good (my uncle has been nailed for it a couple times) but in the world of pro sports, there's far bigger scumbags who have done worse that have been/were allowed to continue their careers with little to no penalty. DeShaun Watson, Evander Kane, Jason Kidd, etc.

Make it a teachable moment. If he does it again fire his ass.
 
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mrJT said:
Difficult cuz i love what Pete's done with our Pitchers over the Years, but i think he'll be let go.
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Still not sure where all this praise is coming from. He took some former all-star pitchers and reminded them they're all-stars. Plenty of pitchers like Thornton, Kay, Foley, and Zeuch have come through this system and not benefited at all from his "tutelage". Heck, Pearson has gotten worse the more he pitches in the majors. I want the coach that makes EVERY pitcher better, not just the ones with S-tier stuff.
 
TGB said:
Still not sure where all this praise is coming from. He took some former all-star pitchers and reminded them they're all-stars. Plenty of pitchers like Thornton, Kay, Foley, and Zeuch have come through this system and not benefited at all from his "tutelage". Heck, Pearson has gotten worse the more he pitches in the majors. I want the coach that makes EVERY pitcher better, not just the ones with S-tier stuff.
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You will literally never find that pitching coach. Arm talent matters along with coaching. There wasn't a pitching coach in the world that could have turned Deck McGuire into an ace for example.
 
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The Nemesis said:
If this is a first offence and he didn't do anything super egregious (we already know he didn't hurt/kill anyone, so that's the big one) he's almost certainly not getting fired. He probably gets fined and suspended pending completion of either a treatment program (if this is a sign that he has issues with drinking) or some sort of education program to help him make better choices (if this was a one-off mistake).

It's also probably an opportunity for him to partner with MADD or whoever to use this incident as way for him to engage with the community about the dangers and not doing what he did.

If it turns out this is just the first publicly recognized offence in a string of issues dating back before now, then yeah he would (and should) get fired.
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This is fair and reasonable I believe.
 
Pink Mist said:
People facing consequences for crimes is now "cancel culture"?

Trying to keep up with you reactionaries who are obsessed with the cancel culture boogeyman
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I think what he's getting at is the people saying he should be suspended and lose his job etc.
 
Looks like we are taking the McGuire approach to Walker. Keep quiet and let it die out on its own after a few days before getting a slap on the wrist to say we did something.
 
Woodman19 said:
Looks like we are taking the McGuire approach to Walker. Keep quiet and let it die out on its own after a few days before getting a slap on the wrist to say we did something.
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Regardless of what happens, you don't make a decision until you know all the facts.
 
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Woodman19 said:
Looks like we are taking the McGuire approach to Walker. Keep quiet and let it die out on its own after a few days before getting a slap on the wrist to say we did something.
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I don't see the relevancy of that comparison. One is a federal crime. The other barely qualifies as mischief.
 
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