Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season Pt VIII: Spring approaches and less (fewer) things are happening

[Hoverhand]

Well if it was rumored then it must be true.

Yeah... I hope so?

When your pitching staff has holes it's kinda your job to check in on the pitching trade market.

 

[Woodman19]

We have added offense, improved defense and some bullpen help. You would be hard pressed to argue we haven't improved the teams overall run differential going into next year. Its astounding to me that people are not satisfied with what we have done so far in this offseason, especially since we have not sacrificed future flexibility or assets to do it.

 

[canucksfan]

We have added offense, improved defense and some bullpen help. You would be hard pressed to argue we haven't improved the teams overall run differential going into next year. Its astounding to me that people are not satisfied with what we have done so far in this offseason, especially since we have not sacrificed future flexibility or assets to do it.

Completely agree. Springer alone makes it a successful off-season. They signed the best available FA that plays a position they desperately needed. Besides the Padres, I don't think there is a team that had a better off-season. Assuming of course I didn't forget a big signing or trade.

The team does need a starter but as I have stated yesterday there is no rush to acquire one.

 

[ryno23]

We have added offense, improved defense and some bullpen help. You would be hard pressed to argue we haven't improved the teams overall run differential going into next year. Its astounding to me that people are not satisfied with what we have done so far in this offseason, especially since we have not sacrificed future flexibility or assets to do it.

I think people see how the market is evolving and a chance to contend for a division title. One more rotation piece couple with the noted improvements already can really go along way to getting back to the playoffs.

There are still some arms who can help but even more than that probably a trade using prospect capital can be the cherry on top of a good off season.

Fans want more, more, more

 

[canucksfan]

I think people see how the market is evolving and a chance to contend for a division title. One more rotation piece couple with the noted improvements already can really go along way to getting back to the playoffs.

There are still some arms who can help but even more than that probably a trade using prospect capital can be the cherry on top of a good off season.

Fans want more, more, more

Fans also have to be realistic. There isn't a pitcher on the free-agent market that will decide if the Jays make the playoffs or not.

 

[Gargyn]

Fans also have to be realistic. There isn't a pitcher on the free-agent market that will decide if the Jays make the playoffs or not.

This is exactly right. If the Jays strike out on Walker and Odorizzi it’s not like that’s going to be the difference in their season. I’d rather them see how spring training goes and make a trade for an actual game changer.

 

[phillipmike]

Solid deal for Shoemaker, should have been our plan B if we couldnt land Odorizzi, Walker, or Porcello.

 

[Beaumaris]

Solid deal for Shoemaker, should have been our plan B if we couldnt land Odorizzi, Walker, or Porcello.

Shoemaker way better option than any of the above mentioned imho.

 

[Discoverer]

Shoemaker way better option than any of the above mentioned imho.

Better because he's cheaper? Maybe. But he's not actually better than them.

 

[Morgs]

Lol Walker wants 10M/year, multiple years.

No wonder nobodys signed him.

 

[phillipmike]

 

[canucksfan]

Yikes. I wouldn't give him two years or more.

 

[Scion]

If Rick Porcello is willing to sign a 1 year deal he is the most interesting name left IMO.

 

[habamillions]

Shoemaker way better option than any of the above mentioned imho.

No he is not. He only pitched 56 innings in last 2 years

 

[Hoverhand]

Give me Walker at 2/22 over Porcello on a one year.

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

Just got my haircut.

Expect to see odorizzi to the Jays shortly. 3 years in the 40-50 million dollar range most likely.

Walker is plan B if Mets or another team beats Jays offer on Odorizzi.

 

[habamillions]

Pillar to the mets. I forgot he was a free agent

 

[canucksfan]

 

[Anthrax442]

finally

 

[Discoverer]

"And" a player to be named? These trades are usually cash "or" a PTBNL and it ends up being nothing. Maybe the Jays will actually get something!

 

[phillipmike]

"And" a player to be named? These trades are usually cash "or" a PTBNL and it ends up being nothing. Maybe the Jays will actually get something!

What if the PTBNL turns out to McKinney. That would be one cruel joke.

 

[Cor]

Wow, Christmas came twice.

first he was gone

now he’s officially gone

 

[The Nemesis]

Wow, Christmas came twice.

first he was gone

now he’s officially gone

Three times because the Jays actually got assets back for Fisher.

 

[Discoverer]

What if the PTBNL turns out to McKinney. That would be one cruel joke.

I was trying to be positive about it and you just brought me right back down.

 

[Anthrax442]

"And" a player to be named? These trades are usually cash "or" a PTBNL and it ends up being nothing. Maybe the Jays will actually get something!

He can be coming back, watch out.