Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season IV: Off-season progression! (Lockout over: Jays acquire Chapman for 4 prospects!)

[theaub]

This is definitely a bit rich.

 

[Bjindaho]

Schwarber getting 4 years at just under 20 per per Jayson Stark

 

[SDig14]

4th year was probably issue for lot of teams. AAV is expected and reasonable.

 

[Woodman19]

I also love that Chapman comes with 2-Years of control rather than having lock in to big money for 4+ years. It keeps financial flexibility into the Arb years for Bichette and Guerrero as well as gives you a window of development time for Groshans and Martinez to possibly fill that void down the road without rushing anyone into the spot.

 

[Morgs]

Hoglund hurts a bit, but WOW GREAT DEAL

 

[phillipmike]

Fine with Smith, Logue and Snead. Sucks to lose Hoglund but was expecting to give up at least 1 top 5 prospect and it had to be Hoglund.

Good trade, got to give to get.

 

[Contenderorpretender]

I guess a Ramirez trade is off the table. Nice get on Chapman though. Still need some leftie bats in the lineup. But the power bats and defence this team has is unreal.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Smith, Hoglund, Logue, and Snead to Oakland.

 

[theaub]

I like Hoglund obviously but considering good baseball players aren't free that works well.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Hate to see it.

His awkward and violent delivery coupled with his scrawny body always made me think his major injury issues would have occurred many years back. Surprised he lasted that long.

 

[Woodman19]

Solid package but none of our prospects that were tough to move were touched so hard to not be happy with that deal.

 

[SDig14]

I imagine it was going to be tough to not give up one of Pearson, Hoglund or Groshans. I'd be curious whether Hoglund is the one we preferred or Oakland. I would think we have less future pitching and may have preferred to trade Groshans, but tough to say for sure. I still like him a lot.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Really nice deal

 

[phillipmike]

Smith, Snead and Logue were all on the 40 man roster. 3 out and 1 in. We have 2 spots on the 40 man now to make a signing.

Chapman over Smith. Snead wasnt getting time in the pen and Berrios, Gausman, Ryu, Kikuchi, Manoah. Pearson, Hatch and Stripling were all locked up over Logue. He wasnt getting time. So only real loss is Hoglund and if he cant rebound from Tommy John, it isnt a problem for us.

Also sucks for Hoglund, he signed with the Jays and our ST facility was 15 minutes from where he grew up.

 

[inthe6ix]

We didn't lose Groshans or Moreno - great deal.

 

[habamillions]

Losing hoglund stings a bit. But all around good deal.

 

[Bjindaho]

Fine with Smith, Logue and Snead. Sucks to lose Hoglund but was expecting to give up at least 1 top 5 prospect and it had to be Hoglund.

Good trade, got to give to get.

Keep in mind that Tiedemann has quietly snuck up and passed him as our top pitching prospect (not that we want to advertise that).

 

[GoonieFace]

That’s highway robbery to be honest.

 

[Kurtz]

Excellent - Chapman always seemed like our best bet. That Oakland to Toronto pipeline has been golden for us. Only prospect in there it hurts to lose is Hoglund, but he's a few years away and we're kicking open that contention window now.

 

[Morgs]

I'm shocked at how little it took.

I really like Hoglund, but Smith is behind Espinal on the depth chart, who's behind... everyone including Chapman. Logue is almost 26 and there's no real spot for him, and Snead, meh.

I was expecting this to hurt at least a little.

 

[phillipmike]

 

[Blitzkrug]

Got a brand name guy and apparently did it without giving up any of their big big named prospects.

I can dig it.

 

[dredeye]

Fine with Smith, Logue and Snead. Sucks to lose Hoglund but was expecting to give up at least 1 top 5 prospect and it had to be Hoglund.

Good trade, got to give to get.

I have no problem with that package at all. I do that deal everyday

 

[canucksfan]

Awesome trade.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Having this infield while still having Moreno,Martinez and Groshans waiting in the wings is kind of ridiculous. It is also how you build a perennial contender because in two years when Chapman is going to market Orelvis should be about ready to slide in there.