Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season III: Ray/Semien out, Gausman in. Jays linked to everyone. Labor strife happening.

[Cor]

MLB-partnered Frontier League adopting sudden-death extras rule
If this makes it to MLB, looking forward to Charlie bunting twice to get the man to 3rd with 2 outs.

This is horrendous

 

[Cor]

If you don’t want super long extra innings in the regular season, just allow ties after 2 or 3 full extra innings or something

Stop doing this weird ass BS.

 

[Beaumaris]

Why not go to an NFL hybrid. Runner starts on 2nd, if the offensive team score 2 runs they win, if they score 1 the other team has to get a chance to tie or win, if they score none they lose

Lol! That’s a ridiculous idea.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Scott Mitchell: 12 names that just missed TSN’s 2022 Blue Jays Prospect Rankings - TSN.ca

TORONTO — Weeks of copying and pasting names into different spots results in 50 players making the final cut of our TSN Blue Jays Prospect Rankings every year.

The process usually starts with about 80 prospects to sift through over the winter, and that group eventually gets whittled down to about 55-60 names under legitimate consideration after the research is done and the majority of conversations are wrapped up.

Depending on the state of the system, the difficulty from there has varied from year to year.

Thanks to some trades, graduations, a shortened 2020 draft and the loss of their second-round pick in 2021, there’s less depth in the pipeline than there would have been.

On the heels of prospects Nos. 50 through 31 on Monday, here are 12 prospects who just missed making the top 50 list for 2022.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Lol! That’s a ridiculous idea.

Hence the

I like it better than the runner on 1st score 1 to win or not score and lose idea though

 

[kb]

Hence the

I like it better than the runner on 1st score 1 to win or not score and lose idea though

Exactly. I mean......if they want something fun, why not settle it with a home run hitting contest like the NHL sort of does with the shootout?

 

[dredeye]

Exactly. I mean......if they want something fun, why not settle it with a home run hitting contest like the NHL sort of does with the shootout?

Vlad would certainly earn his keep

 

[The Nemesis]

David Ortiz is the sole entrant into the baseball hall of fame this year.

Bonds, Clemens, and Schilling all failed in their final years on the ballot. Their next chance would be with one of the induction committees in a few years.

 

[dredeye]

I was pretty adamantly opposed to Bonds and the like getting in but it really is crazy that he’s off the ballot now along with Clemens

 

[Kurtz]

Shame about Bonds. Greatest hitter of all time - didn't do anything that half the league wasn't doing back then.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

David Ortiz is the sole entrant into the baseball hall of fame this year.

Bonds, Clemens, and Schilling all failed in their final years on the ballot. Their next chance would be with one of the induction committees in a few years.

All three of them not getting in is a complete joke. Bonds especially being a top 2/3 player of all time and not in the Hall is hilariously pathetic.

 

[saska sault]

Bonds was hall of fame before the steroids, him and Sosa helped keep the league alive. He definitely cheated, but baseball has a strange moral compass. Baseball has been a game of cheating to varying degrees for many decades.

 

[phillipmike]

I dont like that any of these guys cheated but the guy who let them cheat (Selig) is in the Hall, so these guys should be as well.

 

[kb]

I dont like that any of these guys cheated but the guy who let them cheat (Selig) is in the Hall, so these guys should be as well.

I mean.....why is this OK for him but not others?

Jeff Pearlman: Reality bites now that David Ortiz has been named as steroid user

 

[theaub]

As long as you were nice to the media they don't care.

 

[Discoverer]

As long as you were nice to the media they don't care.

And playing for Boston helps, too.

Mike Piazza has acne on his back: "Hm, he may have been juicing, so he shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame."
Ortiz named in the Mitchell Report: "Well it was unofficial testing and it could have been a false positive, so he deserves the benefit of the doubt."

Edgar Martinez is one of the best hitters of his generation: "Well he was just a DH."
Ortiz is a worse player and plays half as many innings in the field: "First ballot!"

 

[dredeye]

And playing for Boston helps, too.

Mike Piazza has acne on his back: "Hm, he may have been juicing, so he shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame."
Ortiz named in the Mitchell Report: "Well it was unofficial testing and it could have been a false positive, so he deserves the benefit of the doubt."

Edgar Martinez is one of the best hitters of his generation: "Well he was just a DH."
Ortiz is a worse player and plays half as many innings in the field: "First ballot!"

I certainly don’t understand how a 1B/Dh is a first ballot hof’er. He falls in with all the cheaters so he should have the same issue getting in as the others did. He just wasn’t the face of it at the time. He wasn’t the superstar the others were. The hall is a mess. They’ll have to correct this some day.

 

[phillipmike]

Mariners connected to top target in upcoming deep free agency class

OF Emmanuel Bonilla – Toronto Blue Jays

Bonilla is your prototype corner outfielder with a huge bat and a big arm. Already 6-foot-3, 205 pounds, Bonilla has prodigious raw power, but unlike most sluggers his age, his feel for hit allows evaluators to project a more complete profile at the plate as a pro.

“Most of the time, guys like this don’t get big money because you look at the body, you look at the corner profile at this age and fear where it all goes from here,” one AL director said. “Bonilla is in such a different category with the hit tool, it made negotiations between teams pretty unique.”
Most directors shied away from comparisons, but they were effusive of Bonilla’s ability not to become a one-tool guy.

“This isn’t Franmail Reyes,” the AL director added. “Teams can go get big sluggers lacking hit tools on the free agent market whenever they want. You can go draft a kid like that for $100k. Paying this kind of bonus to a teenage corner guy says a lot about the industry’s feel for his ability to hit.”

It certainly doesn’t hurt that Bonilla is a very good athlete as well. The Mariners recently signed Lázaro Montes, similarly a corner outfield profile, to a $2.5 million signing bonus. Bonilla figures to exceed that figure quite comfortably.

“He’s a better athlete than Montes is,” the AL director said. “Hit tool is pretty similar. Both impact the hell out of the baseball. Neither swing and miss much. Montes has a real chance of ending up at first base. Most of us don’t think that possibility really exists with Emmanuel.”

Bonilla is set to sign for right around $4 million, if not a shade more.

 

[Apotheosis]

Bonds and Clemens not getting in is a joke. The entire league was juicing. They're just mad that when they did it, they were that far above.

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

Bonds and Clemens not getting in is a joke. The entire league was juicing. They're just mad that when they did it, they were that far above.

Stop making excuses for roid junkies. Entire league wasn't juicing either. I see a lot of outrage in defense of Bonds and Clemens but no outrage for all the Honorable players that got f***ed out of careers, out of pensions, etc because of people who cheated the system.

 

[GreytWun]

Stop making excuses for roid junkies. Entire league wasn't juicing either. I see a lot of outrage in defense of Bonds and Clemens but no outrage for all the Honorable players that got f***ed out of careers, out of pensions, etc because of people who cheated the system.

The issue most people have is PED users are already in the HOF. Not that they agree that taking steroids is ok.

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

The issue most people have is PED users are already in the HOF. Not that they agree that taking steroids is ok.

Baseball f***ed up but they can't keep glorifying cheaters. God knows how many kids and young ball players who were influenced into trying roids during that era.

Maybe one day you have wing in the hall of fame for cheaters but I wouldn't dignify on these guys with a jacket or ceremony.

 

[kb]

Baseball f***ed up but they can't keep glorifying cheaters. God knows how many kids and young ball players who were influenced into trying roids during that era.

Maybe one day you have wing in the hall of fame for cheaters but I wouldn't dignify on these guys with a jacket or ceremony.

Which is why Ortiz shouldn't be in either if this is the criteria to get into the Hall. He was named in the Mitchell report.

 

[ER89]

This is horrendous

I'm not going to lie, I'm kinda intrigued

 

[Apotheosis]

Stop making excuses for roid junkies. Entire league wasn't juicing either. I see a lot of outrage in defense of Bonds and Clemens but no outrage for all the Honorable players that got f***ed out of careers, out of pensions, etc because of people who cheated the system.

It'll be a funny day when you find out that most athletes even today are on roids.