Movies: Oceans Ocho (Oceans Eleven Reboot)

Jumptheshark

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would not bank on Banks doing it--she recently dropped out of 2 different film projects--one that was she was directing (pitch Perfect) She recently had a kid and is reducing her work load
 

aleshemsky83

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I dont have an issue with these all woman reboots necessarily, just the fact that making such a large ensemble cast all woman makes no sense.
 

KallioWeHardlyKnewYe

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OMG!!!! THIS IS RUINING MY FAVORITE MOVIE FROM 2001. HOW DARE THEY SOIL THE LEGACY!!!!! I'M GOING TO POST A VIDEO ON THE INTERNET ABOUT HOW I'M NOT GOING TO WATCH THE MOVIE BECAUSE THE VERY CONCEPT OF IT IS SO OFFENSIVE TO ME!!!!! :sarcasm:

The Ocean's idea is a fun, fungible idea.
If it's good, I'll enjoy it.
If it's bad, I won't.
 

What the Faulk

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OMG!!!! THIS IS RUINING MY FAVORITE MOVIE FROM 2001. HOW DARE THEY SOIL THE LEGACY!!!!! I'M GOING TO POST A VIDEO ON THE INTERNET ABOUT HOW I'M NOT GOING TO WATCH THE MOVIE BECAUSE THE VERY CONCEPT OF IT IS SO OFFENSIVE TO ME!!!!! :sarcasm:

The Ocean's idea is a fun, fungible idea.
If it's good, I'll enjoy it.
If it's bad, I won't.

That's kind of the point. The last one was 15 years ago. That's not that long ago.

If you think the idea is fun, make a sequel. I think that's still par for the course for how unoriginal Hollywood has become, but at least that takes more effort than a lazy remake/reboot.
 

KallioWeHardlyKnewYe

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That's kind of the point. The last one was 15 years ago. That's not that long ago.

If you think the idea is fun, make a sequel. I think that's still par for the course for how unoriginal Hollywood has become, but at least that takes more effort than a lazy remake/reboot.

It's definitely par for the course. Hollywood has been regurgitating the stories since the day it opened for business. Tapping and re-tapping the same stories and ideas is not a new phenomenon.

I do take some issue with your time argument:

Star Trek (2009) came out 7 years after the last Trek movie and 18 years after the last movie with the original cast. (technically a sequel given its events, but really a reboot Trojan horsed into a sequel, which was clever).

Batman Begins (2005) was eight years after Batman & Robin and 13 after Batman Returns.

Hell, the entire James Bond series has been rebooting and reimagining itself every 10 years or so since the early 1960s.

I didn't hear a lot of bellyaching around these parts about those ventures.

My point is - I don't think people around here really do hate reboots/re-imaginings/remakes in general, they only hate them when it involves actors/directors they don't like. I really enjoy the Oceans movies, but it isn't like it's sacred text.

Posters decry the lack of imagination and creativity in Hollywood yet happily line up for predictable assembly line super hero movies (many of which I like as well!).

My personal stance is -- Who cares?

A remake does not in any way diminish the version you prefer. You can still watch that one, nor do you have to see the remake/reboot.
There are much greater affronts to entertainment than someone looking at a fun movie and saying, "hey lets make a new version of this fun movie."
 

Dr Pepper

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A sequel (usually) builds on a pre-existing plot or premise, instead of a total tear-down and re-do.

Which is sometimes completely unnecessary (looking your way, Ghostbusters :laugh:)
 

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I absolutely loved the Clooney remake and 13 was really good as well.

An all female reboot.....hmmmmm. This hurts.
 

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A sequel (usually) builds on a pre-existing plot or premise, instead of a total tear-down and re-do.

Which is sometimes completely unnecessary (looking your way, Ghostbusters :laugh:)

Would you consider the 2001 Oceans Eleven to be a less original piece of work (as its a remake) than the two sequels it produced?
 

JA

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Why not just create an original all-female property or adapt other all-female properties to the big screen if the studios care so much about all-female casts? I don't see anybody asking for these films, much like nobody is asking for any more films from Happy Madison Productions. These are cash grabs with very little integrity to the properties. The films aren't being made because there's a story to tell; they're made because it's easy to remake a film with the opposite gender and sell it as new.

 
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KallioWeHardlyKnewYe

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The "just make more movies for women" argument is both naive and a little silly. It's naive because it's pretty extensively documented that isn't a lot of great material out there for women in the first place and certainly nothing approaching the volume of work men can get. (Where's that Black Widow movie?)

It's silly because when an idea like this comes up and it does create interesting opportunities for actresses, people get pissed off about it.

Women can be in movies, but only in CERTAIN movies and CERTAIN roles.

And again, to be crystal clear, the government is not going to force you to watch this movie nor is it going to knock down your door and confiscate your DVDs of the George Clooney version.
 

What the Faulk

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It's definitely par for the course. Hollywood has been regurgitating the stories since the day it opened for business. Tapping and re-tapping the same stories and ideas is not a new phenomenon.

I do take some issue with your time argument:

Star Trek (2009) came out 7 years after the last Trek movie and 18 years after the last movie with the original cast. (technically a sequel given its events, but really a reboot Trojan horsed into a sequel, which was clever).

Batman Begins (2005) was eight years after Batman & Robin and 13 after Batman Returns.

Hell, the entire James Bond series has been rebooting and reimagining itself every 10 years or so since the early 1960s.

I didn't hear a lot of bellyaching around these parts about those ventures.

My point is - I don't think people around here really do hate reboots/re-imaginings/remakes in general, they only hate them when it involves actors/directors they don't like. I really enjoy the Oceans movies, but it isn't like it's sacred text.

Posters decry the lack of imagination and creativity in Hollywood yet happily line up for predictable assembly line super hero movies (many of which I like as well!).

My personal stance is -- Who cares?

A remake does not in any way diminish the version you prefer. You can still watch that one, nor do you have to see the remake/reboot.
There are much greater affronts to entertainment than someone looking at a fun movie and saying, "hey lets make a new version of this fun movie."

If it's coming at the expense of new and original ideas, I care. It's not so much this one movie as it is a growing tend of said remakes and reboots and sequels and super hero movies. It's not a new thing. I'm not saying it is. But it is becoming more prevalent.
 

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