Value of: NYR - SJS cap space deal

[bernmeister]

Rangers have some space, no excess available to squander, but some can be used if the numbers and return are right. NY looking for picks/upgrade.

SJS wants to re-sign E Kane for optimum length and $. Taking into account his last deal, what he commands on the market, term both sides can sign off on, I come up with ballpark $6m per for 4 years with no or minimum NTCs.

Sharks have to be careful here, had to let Marleau go, and Hertl and co will command mo $.
If a mutual backscratch was effective, surely it would be considered.

Is this that win win?
Sharks have no 2nds this year or next. Also no 3rd this year. NY has surplus there.
so
pre arranged wink wink sign and trade
Rangers ink EKane to 4 yrs 6m per then send him to SJS at 2m per retained
NY also sends SJ the NJD 2018 2nd and Bruins 2018 3rd

in exchange for these 2 picks and 4 yrs cap space

Rangers get 2018 SJS 1st
and
EITHER 2019 OR 2020 SJS 1st, Sharks to decide.

I don't think NY or anyone else should be taking on contracts like Ryan, Lucic or Seabrook, esp at full pop, without major bribe for the ongoing pain and cap hit.

This is I think something much more measured.

Thoughts? Esp as to value, both sides?

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[Beezeral]

I love bernmeister trades. They are always ridiculous and have zero chance of every happening. Shame you stopped doing ones for ekblad.

 

[SlapshotTheMovie]

this is insane and has a 0% chance of happening.

 

[hohosaregood]

Sharks saving $2m for 4 years is not worth an additional 1st round pick.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

There's my Friday morning laugh.

 

[BinCookin]

Sounds a lot easier to just sign Kane.

 

[slg1963]

Rangers have some space, no excess available to squander, but some can be used if the numbers and return are right. NY looking for picks/upgrade.

SJS wants to re-sign E Kane for optimum length and $. Taking into account his last deal, what he commands on the market, term both sides can sign off on, I come up with ballpark $6m per for 4 years with no or minimum NTCs.

Sharks have to be careful here, had to let Marleau go, and Hertl and co will command mo $.
If a mutual backscratch was effective, surely it would be considered.

Is this that win win?
Sharks have no 2nds this year or next. Also no 3rd this year. NY has surplus there.
so
pre arranged wink wink sign and trade
Rangers ink EKane to 4 yrs 6m per then send him to SJS at 2m per retained
NY also sends SJ the NJD 2018 2nd and Bruins 2018 3rd

in exchange for these 2 picks and 4 yrs cap space

Rangers get 2018 SJS 1st
and
EITHER 2019 OR 2020 SJS 1st, Sharks to decide.

I don't think NY or anyone else should be taking on contracts like Ryan, Lucic or Seabrook, esp at full pop, without major bribe for the ongoing pain and cap hit.

This is I think something much more measured.

Thoughts? Esp as to value, both sides?

Our Rangers should not go near Kane , NYC and Kane spell trouble

 

[Shootertooter]

this is insane and has a 0% chance of happening.

That's actually a higher percentage of it happening than a NO "F 'in" way.
Don't encourage him.

 

[boredmale]

I always wonder how the league would treat signing a guy then trading him away 5 minutes later with a certain percentage of his salary retained. I think they might view that as circumventing the cap

 

[Shootertooter]

Sounds like SJS giving up way too much to save a couple of million.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

San Jose is one of the oldest teams in the league so naturally it makes sense to help with the rangers rebuild by tossing them two out of their three next 1st round picks just to re-sign their own player.

 

[Beezeral]

That's actually a higher percentage of it happening than a NO "F 'in" way.
Don't encourage him.

embrace how ludicrous a bernmeister special is. Enjoy it for the high comedy that it is.

 

[TGWL]

So how does this work?

Step 1) Kane's gets traded to NY Rangers for 2018 2nd, and 2018 Boston's 3rd round pick prior to the 2018 draft.
Step 2) Rangers sign Kane to an extension and then immediately trade him for 2018 SJ 1st & 20** SJ 1st round pick, with 2 million retained?

...because that wouldn't be looked into by the NHL

Or do the Rangers sign Kane on July 1st and go back in time to then trade the 2018 draft picks?

Either way, that doesn't seem like the most cost efficient way to utilize assets, just to save a whopping 2 million a year.

 

[boredmale]

So how does this work?

 

[Kupo]

There's my Friday morning laugh.

Glad you laughed.

I cried a bit.

 

[GAGLine]

I always wonder how the league would treat signing a guy then trading him away 5 minutes later with a certain percentage of his salary retained. I think they might view that as circumventing the cap

They allowed the Brassard trade to Pittsburgh via Vegas. Vegas retains 40% of Brassard's contract. This would essentially be the same thing.

 

[Mortivore]

Deal!

 

[boredmale]

They allowed the Brassard trade to Pittsburgh via Vegas. Vegas retains 40% of Brassard's contract. This would essentially be the same thing.

I guess although signing a UFA then trading him 5 minutes later is a bit different then trading for a guy currently under contract

 

[Gecklund]

This is awful value and pretty much the definition of cap circumvention

 

[innitfam]

Why does Kane sign for 6M?

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Why does Kane sign for 6M?

So the Rangers could retain 2M to get two first round picks, of course.

 

[DRW204]

I like you threads, I urge you to make more

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Sharks didn't 'have' to let Marleau go. They offered him 2 yr 10 mil and told him that was their final offer. He called back telling them Toronto offered 3 for 18 (give or take) and Wilson told him good luck in Toronto.

Sharks are fine wrt the cap. They just didn't overspend for Marleau like Toronto did.

 

[mouser]

Rangers ink EKane to 4 yrs 6m per then send him to SJS at 2m per retained

Not allowed per the CBA.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Hey Bob, what's phase 2?!?

:shrugs:

Phase 3, profit!!!