Confirmed with Link: NYR Fire John Davidson and Jeff Gorton

[Trueblue30]

Wilson may be a dirty player to every other team in the league but he plays hard and has some skills and is respected by his team mates. TDA never really earned squat and came across as a A Hole period and more importantly lost the respect of his team mates for his clown antics. Sorry as much as I despise Wilson, TDA to me would not be welcome on my team... and it seems the rest of the league feels the same way which is why he is sitting at home doing nothing all season.

to be fair tony is a Defenseman who has had a 60 point season which blows Tom Wilson’s best season out of the water.

 

[LokiDog]

Holy shitttt what? That’s crazy. Something is rotten. Quinn can’t be long to follow. Big shakeup coming?

 

[Number 9]

wtf happened? Joke wtf

 

[Tob]

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I guess we’re gonna see how much of a disciple Drury really was of Gorton.

there being no buffer between him and Dolan worries me a lot though

 

[Flybynite]

Holy shit...sounds like Dolan got an angry phone call from Bettman

Actually I wonder if the league/Dolan asked JD and Gorton to take back the statement and they refused so they got fired

I know the official team statement is that it's not related... but as someone who has seen a Commissioner basically force a front-office change (NBA making Sixers owner bring in someone with more 'basketball experience' to stop Sam Hinkie) I do not buy that statement at all. The league certainly does not want front offices criticizing or calling for firings of the leagues own executives.

 

[Kodiak]

In any way ... so long as that way is GM or head coach.

Take a coaching position in the minors or a lesser role in the front office and work your way up, like Drury just did. If Mess was serious about it, he would have started on that path years ago. He's been retired for over 15 years and hasn't done a thing in professional hockey since.

 

[leeroggy]

Lafreniere for Bailey! The Rangers need a locker room leader!

 

[Number 9]

At least add quinn seriously

 

[SRHRangers]

My God, is Legreca such a f***ing company man.

 

[RangerLifer]

This to me is entirely about the makeup of the team and its embarrassing games against the isles and caps and their inability to push back against any kind of physical pressure.

It really was/is humiliating. Why is it so hard to implement team toughness just like almost every single NHL team possesses? Rhetorical question.

 

[haveandare]

Hire Mess as coach. If HF is against it, it must be the right move. Mess knows the Rangers were built to be gutless from the top down. Well guess what? Drury wasn’t a pansy and neither is Messier. Can’t build a pond hockey team to compete for a Cup. Some don’t want to wake up and see it.

Since when is being personally tough 30 years ago the main or even any qualification for coaching an NHL team? Absolutely insane

 

[I Eat Crow]

I wouldn't worry about Quinn. Dead man walking. The new leadership will bring their own coach in.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Holy shitttt what? That’s crazy. Something is rotten. Quinn can’t be long to follow. Big shakeup coming?

Quinn outlasting them is like a McDonalds firing the entire management, all the best workers, and keeping the guy who comes into work stoned 30 mins late every day

 

[Blueshirts777]

Sounds like Messier is only concerned with hawking used jock straps and selling gifs of himself hoisting the cup. He would probably loot the locker room after home games for his boy Steiner

 

[Daves a mess]

Somewhere Torts is petting his pitbull with that grin..

and Larry is in a corner mumbling .."Please God dont"...

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Trading Zuccarello who's having the best season of his career this year, on pace for 70+ points. And Gorton let him go for basically nothing, a gamble deal that failed. I think Zucc would've been better value for the Trouba money, Dolan would probably agree...

I have no problem with trading Zuc, he would only add to the problem we have of too many wingers. The trouba signing while a tad expensive i have 0 problem with, he's one of the few players id really like to have in the lineup tonight..someone would be getting freight trained

 

[Baby Duck Homme]

"The Red Wedding"

Yeah I started hearing Rains in Castamere in my head. Dolan would make a good Walder Frey.

 

[NYR94]

"No Cap!" - Bill Pidto

Pidto should make the entire MSG 150 tonight a recap of all this week's drama in the form of a Korean soap opera.

 

[Elliman]

wtf

 

[RangerLifer]

Lol firing your GM and president over Tom Wilson is an infinitely worse look. We took him being a moron and dismantled the front office over it... there is no worse response that I can possibly even imagine

The incident exposed how soft this team is. It wasn't BECAUSE of Tom Wilson alone.

 

[Fitzy]

I'm increasingly buying the fan theory from the main boards that Dolan was behind the tweet, JD and JG disapproved, and so they got the can.

It's the only thing that really makes sense if the tweet remains up. It also fits with reporters saying JG and JD distanced themselves from the statement.

If that's true, I feel a lot better about this whole thing.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Not as creepy as the amount of hatred some people have for a person they've never met.

Big difference between thinking he doesn't belong on this team and hating him.

You're obsessed with him and literally bring him up in every GDT and every thread on here. You consistently make topics that have nothing to do with him about him. It's really weird.

 

[poeman]

Wtf happened

John Davidson called James Dolan a little rat to his face...


At least that is what I am hoping

 

[egelband]

There's a part of me that looks at everything and puts together this story:

- Jeff Gorton came in around the 2016 season and fairly quickly started tearing things down.
- Over the course of a few years, Stepan and Brassard were traded, Girardi and Lundqvist were bought out, Staal was sent away. Basically the entire leadership core of the last cup contender is gone.
- "The letter" was sent out.
- With the turnover, Gorton made a number of astute hockey moves at the cost of culture.
- There were a number of stop and starts/incidents with prospects and young players, including Andersson, Kravtsov, and DeAngelo.
- David Quinn, a developmental coach, has the support of Gorton and JD despite getting inconsistent effort and development from the team.
- The Wilson incident happens, and Gorton pushes back because it limits his ability to make hockey moves and operate in the league.
- Dolan looks at all this and concludes that while Gorton is a smart hockey mind and has succeeded in building a very talented collection of pieces, he is not equipped to make the sometimes "sub-optimal" moves that will help turn the collection of talented players into a winning team with a winning culture.

Then I remember we're talking about Dolan and wonder what I've been drinking.

Much of this rings true but...the timing...I just don’t get it. If it was something coming down the pike, was the statement-distancing just the catalyst? Was this statement the beginning and the end? So interesting. What does this mean for the team going forward? Is this good or bad for Quinn?