Proposal: Nyr-edm
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LordNeverLose
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No, Girardi might literally be the worst defenseman in the NHL, and the last thing EDM wants, needs, or has any use for is more picks or undersized forward prospects.
Oscar Lindberg
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Explain how this is terrible for NYR, they lose a bad dman and big deal prospects and picks EDM doesn't need
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Oscar Lindberg
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The Rangers are giving up their top prospect, picks they can't afford to trade and a garbage defenseman, for a guy they don't need in RNH and Letestu.
The Rangers have tremendous center depth, them trading for RNH is non sensical and unnecessary. Plus they lose a potential 1st line player, and picks, hence, it is a bad deal for them
Either way Girardi will be gone next summer, so trading priceless assets just to move him is also dumb
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VainGretzky
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FightingIrish17
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So the Oilers are trading a fringe 1st line centre and their 4th line centre for a bad defenceman on a brutal contract, a good winger prospect, and 2 picks they don't need?
Doesn't fill any of their needs and is atrocious value wise.
Doesn't fill any of their needs and is atrocious value wise.
ManofSteel55
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we realize Girardi has 100% negative value, right? and it just took CHI trading Teravainen to deal 1 year of Bickell?
RNH is a bottom tier 1C, but still a capable 1C (although not one you will win a championship as having your 1C IMO)
that being said, the return here for a 55+ pt center is just god awful
Buchnevich who hasnt played a lick of North American ice hockey on the smaller rink so while a good prospect, hasnt panned out to anything just yet
Arguably the worst dman in the NHL due to the salary cap in Dan Girardi
and likely bottom half 1st and 2nd round picks, which EDM has never been hurting for picks
EDM is 10000000x better off holding on to RNH and waiting for someone to offer Dumba, Spurgeon, or another dman of the like that they could better use
that being said, the return here for a 55+ pt center is just god awful
Buchnevich who hasnt played a lick of North American ice hockey on the smaller rink so while a good prospect, hasnt panned out to anything just yet
Arguably the worst dman in the NHL due to the salary cap in Dan Girardi
and likely bottom half 1st and 2nd round picks, which EDM has never been hurting for picks
EDM is 10000000x better off holding on to RNH and waiting for someone to offer Dumba, Spurgeon, or another dman of the like that they could better use
48g90a138pts
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Oilers RW depth atm is:
Eberle
Yakupov
Puljujarvi
Kassian
Pakarinen
Russel Patrick
Kyle Platzer
Tyler Pitlick
Taylor Beck
not too sure if we need another RW at this time.
Eberle
Yakupov
Puljujarvi
Kassian
Pakarinen
Russel Patrick
Kyle Platzer
Tyler Pitlick
Taylor Beck
not too sure if we need another RW at this time.
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One Winged Angel
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Since when is 6'2 undersized???
Just stop. You clearly don't know anything about Buchnevich.
One Winged Angel
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You wouldn't trade Letestu for Buchnevich????
Yeah ok. A 4th line center for a top prospect.
Get real.
i fail to see how this helps the Oilers in any way next season ... After 10 years out of the playoffs that would all but guarantee another top 3-4 pick next year ... This in no way addresses Edmontons needs
RangerGuru
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Rangers pass. No need for another C or to deal away our top prospect and another 1st when those are the type of assets the team should be collecting at the moment
WesMcCauley
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Girardi is as useless as Nikitin was .
Anyways neither team does it . Oilers maybe be deep at C but this would gut that . Also the Oilers are trying to come out of a rebuild and start competing so while the prospect and picks may have good value they are not what Edmonton needs right now . On the other hand if the NYR are looking to rebuild/even reload they may want to keep their high end prospect and picks . In a Vacuum I think the value would be in NYR favour . In the real world it not a trade they should make
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The Rangers aren't going to offload a ton of assets just to dump Girardi. He's gone next summer, either by trade, expansion, or buyout. Buchnevich is our top prospect, and we're not sending out those picks as our prospect cupboard is pretty pathetic, and our front office knows it.
On top of this, RNH really doesn't fill a need for us. Our Top-9 Cs are Stepan, Brassard, and Hayes. RNH, at this point, isn't a clear upgrade on Stepan or Brassard, and we're not using that much cap and sending out our top prospect for, what would be for us, a 3C.
The value clearly isn't there for EDM either, so don't take this as me ripping on RNH.
On top of this, RNH really doesn't fill a need for us. Our Top-9 Cs are Stepan, Brassard, and Hayes. RNH, at this point, isn't a clear upgrade on Stepan or Brassard, and we're not using that much cap and sending out our top prospect for, what would be for us, a 3C.
The value clearly isn't there for EDM either, so don't take this as me ripping on RNH.
Dear god that was bad. You are worried about losing a POTENTIAL future top line player even though you are GETTING a top line player. You even dump Girardi. You say he will be gone next year but a buyout gives you a worse cap hit then 50% retention because of the signing bonuses with 3 extra years of cap. Check it out, it is true.
Since moving Girardi with the retention is better than buying him out for the sake of argument we will call his involvement a wash for NY. You trade a prospect who MAY become a top liner (more likely 2nd liner with still some chance of worse than that), a low first and second for a top line forward. That is a win every way you look at it.
I'm ok with saying that this deal doesn't fill a need and you would rather move those assets for something else or want to keep the cap space open for now, that is perfectly fair but don't pretend you are not getting a steal here value-wise. Heck because of the steal I would take this deal and move a center for a position of need. Win-win.
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BBKers
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No. Just no. Does nothing for either team IMO. Can it be bad for both teams?
I do however think we will see a NYR-EDM swap sooner than later - however with entirely other pieces involved.
I do however think we will see a NYR-EDM swap sooner than later - however with entirely other pieces involved.
