Rumor: Nylander like Matthews unextended. Nothing to see here.

[Jimmy Firecracker]

I don’t think Trev is willing to be that patient.

I’m all for that. Make it known to the Nylander camp in no uncertain terms that he and his agent can stop f***ing around and sign at a compromise or they’ll ship him off.

 

[BertCorbeau]

He shouldn't be. The trade market will dry up as other teams use up their capspace.

So if Nylander wants to be a Leaf, pressure is on to get a deal done.

After the Gaudreau thing especially I hope Trev has a deadline that’s in the next week or so, meanwhile he’s gauging the trade market.

I could live with moving Nylander and bringing in Tarasenko for cheap.

At the very least Nylander can return a nice package of futures.

 

[KaN19]

This could be another all summer long negotiation knowing Gross. He’s a bastard when it comes to negotiations and there’s no reason to believe he or Willy are in a rush to sign at a compromise number that’s lower than their ask. Would love to be wrong.

We can't afford to have this drag all the way into training camp. Last time around he was an RFA and we knew he was our asset no matter how long the negotiations took.

Now he's heading into his last season before unrestricted free agency. Willy, his dad and Gross don't have to compromise. They can have their cake and it eat it too. Either the Leafs pay him double-digits or some other team happily will on July 1st, 2024. Also don't want him getting hurt or spreading bad vibes in the locker room.

The negotiations shouldn't be too complicated. Leafs should table their best and final offer soon and if Willy rejects, start looking to make a trade.

 

[keonsbitterness]

So just insider rumors. What a surprise.

Let me guess... insider rumors only count as "fact" when they fit your narrative, right?

LIke I said, we know San Jose offered 13 mil because their gm said so. But TERM is just guesses based on rumors.

Stop presenting rumors as fact. STOP it.

Whether or not $13m was true, I find it impossible to believe that San Jose would have made the cut to be one of the six to make in-person presentations if they were only offering four years.

 

[rabbit4949]

I’m all for that. Make it known to the Nylander camp in no uncertain terms that he and his agent can stop f***ing around and sign at a compromise or they’ll ship him off.

Why is it always Nylander that has to take a haircut?

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

 

[Gabriel426]

We can't afford to have this drag all the way into training camp. Last time around he was an RFA and we knew he was our asset no matter how long the negotiations took.

Now he's heading into his last season before unrestricted free agency. Willy, his dad and Gross don't have to compromise. They can have their cake and it eat it too. Either the Leafs pay him double-digits or some other team happily will on July 1st, 2024. Also don't want him getting hurt or spreading bad vibes in the locker room.

The negotiations shouldn't be too complicated. Leafs should table their best and final offer soon and if Willy rejects, start looking to make a trade.

I really don’t think players have as much power as they think.
They can certainly wait it out, even veto any trades, but if the team keep pushing it, they have too much pride to feel unwanted. And it will affect their game. And the worse you play the worse it is going to get.

 

[Jozay]

Nylander is easily worth 9.5

If the Leafs are offering 8.5 x 8 for example, Nylander would easily clear 68 mill on the market

 

[TheGroceryStick]

He gets to FA he’s a Bruins. He and Pastrnak are joined at the hip. Even at pregame warm up they stretch at center ice near each other chatting

Whoever gets him better sign him long term

Screw the rivalry.
If that's the case, let's do:

Carlo + Frederic
For
Nylander + Timmins

 

[Leafshater67]

Why is it always Nylander that has to take a haircut?

He’s up first. He’s also not worth 10m.

Marner and Matthews should prove they want to win by taking them too. Having these guys on top dollar deals only to disappear every playoffs and leave no money to fill the rest of the roster is BS. They obviously don’t want to win and the team needs to push back instead of just rolling over like last contract talks.

 

[KaN19]

I really don’t think players have as much power as they think.
They can certainly wait it out, even veto any trades, but if the team keep pushing it, they have too much pride to feel unwanted. And it will affect their game. And the worse you play the worse it is going to get.

Not sure that applies in this case. Remember, Willy is a guy who was willing to hold out until minutes before the December 1st deadline just for a few extra $100k. Fans and the media were blasting him for months leading up to that day and then the rest of the season when he wasn't in any shape to be playing. Nylander camp is all business.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Nylander is easily worth 9.5

If the Leafs are offering 8.5 x 8 for example, Nylander would easily clear 68 mill on the market

What team offers 70m, 10m x 7years?

Don't see a single contender doing that.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Why is it always Nylander that has to take a haircut?

It’s only a haircut if he’s paid less than what you believe he’s worth. Nylander is not worth $10+ million. $9-9.5 million for him would be more than fair. If he’s too greedy or got too big of an ego to take anything less than the coveted $10 million he’s apparently asking for then forget it. Can’t keep being held hostage like this as a franchise.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Nylander is easily worth 9.5

If the Leafs are offering 8.5 x 8 for example, Nylander would easily clear 68 mill on the market

That means he would need 9.71 x 7 from another team. It's a stretch if he wants to play on a good team.

I think if he tests the market, he has to go for a shorter-term deal and then wait for the rising cap.

 

[A1LeafNation]

It’s only a haircut if he’s paid less than what you believe he’s worth. Nylander is not worth $10+ million. $9-9.5 million for him would be more than fair. If he’s too greedy or got too big of an ego to take anything less than the coveted $10 million he’s apparently asking for then forget it. Can’t keep being held hostage like this as a franchise.

9m x 8 years is 72m. The most a team would offer him is what 10m x 7 years (70m).

Why would the Leafs overpay for Nylander?

 

[I am Canadian]

I don't blame Nylander for this. The difference between Marner and Nylander is closing year after year, and we know Marner is not taking a pay cut on his next contract. Leafs offer at 8.5M would put him maybe 4M behind Marner's next contract, and he's closer to Marner value than 4M imo

 

[Gabriel426]

Not sure that applies in this case. Remember, Willy is a guy who was willing to hold out until minutes before the December 1st deadline just for a few extra $100k. Fans and the media were blasting him for months leading up to that day and then the rest of the season when he wasn't in any shape to be playing. Nylander camp is all business.

The difference is he will be playing with the Leafs during this time instead of being somewhere in Sweden.
Also what is he signing. If no teams willing to trade and extend him, it speaks volume regarding what he is asking.
I am a realtor and I see sellers always over valuing their own properties and wont face reality till nobody even view their homes.

 

[Legion34]

So just insider rumors. What a surprise.

Let me guess... insider rumors only count as "fact" when they fit your narrative, right?

LIke I said, we know San Jose offered 13 mil because their gm said so. But TERM is just guesses based on rumors.

Stop presenting rumors as fact. STOP it.

No. His agent said it directly

Multiple insiders confirmed it.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

I don't blame Nylander for this. The difference between Marner and Nylander is closing year after year, and we know Marner is not taking a pay cut on his next contract. Leafs offer at 8.5M would put him maybe 4M behind Marner's next contract, and he's closer to Marner value than 4M imo

Marner kills penalties and is one of the best defensive forwards in the game, while routinely putting up 90+ points. Nylander is an elite offensive talent, capable of 40 goals and 80+ points, but his lack of defensive prowess makes him worth less than Marner.

 

[Clark4Ever]

Interesting commentary today, speculation that he could have sabotaged his 10 team trade limit, apparently common. List a bunch of teams who don’t have any cap space to give you more leverage in negotations, pick the least likely options to squeeze your team.

But isn't that also a clear subliminal sign that he wants to stay in Toronto?

Treliving has to hold firm in the 9 million AAV range.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

9m x 8 years is 72m. The most a team would offer him is what 10m x 7 years (70m).

Why would the Leafs overpay for Nylander?

If you can get him to take somewhere in the $8 millions be my guest. I’m just going to the middle of where both sides are talking. Would love for Willy to be re-signed at a number starting with 8.

 

[A1LeafNation]

If you can get him to take someone in the $8 millions be my guest. I’m just going to the middle of where both sides are talking. Would love for Willy to be re-signed at a number starting with 8.

Bertuzzis agent said no contender was willing to go 5.5m on a 5 year deal for him.

But Nylander is going to get double that on a 7 year deal? Not you but people are being delusional here.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

I don't blame Nylander for this. The difference between Marner and Nylander is closing year after year, and we know Marner is not taking a pay cut on his next contract. Leafs offer at 8.5M would put him maybe 4M behind Marner's next contract, and he's closer to Marner value than 4M imo

His camp is basically asking for 9.5-10, arguing an increase in cap space soon and all.

Leafs don't agree with it and are maxing at 8.5-8.8ish.

 

[CelticDruid]

Looks like you guys will have something to talk about until camp.
Almost like going back in time.

My bet is this thread will reach a gazillion pages by Camp.

I would trade both Marner and Nylander for the right packages just to bring sanity back to the cap space that we have.

I would rather keep Nylander, but the team comes first.

Having said that, I still believe the Leafs will make it work and Nylander will be signed.

 

[Bronxxx]

Hmm. How about Nylander for Rasmus Dahlin? I’d do it.