Rumor: Nylander like Matthews unextended. Nothing to see here.

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If you're trading Nylander you have to move him for the best package possible... even if it's futures those assets can be used the next time an elite player is on the market. Don't get spun into a Larsson for Hall situation where you trade the much better player just to fill a specific need.
 
Send Willie to Caps and get Wilson and future back. Then we can really enjoy our summer
No to Wilson. With his game and at his age he's potentially on borrowed time and he is looking for his final pay day. He is coming off a knee injury, not a career year. They can find a safer but maybe less spectacular option if its a forward they need now.
 
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I think Willy gets a real nice dman and maybe a pic. I read what guys are saying, Willy is worth a lot more than you think. He has consistently performed and I think he has played pretty well in the playoffs for them. 40 goal scorers are worth quite a bit.
 
Willy would be the best player on a lot of teams. Only 19 players in the league scored 40 goals last year and Willy was one of them. The return better be a whole lot more than a freaking journeyman defenseman.
Young stud dman.
 
It might be that we have to move on from Nylander.

You don’t like his style, fine; but the level of contempt you seem to have for him is nowhere near justified.

Of the big 4 he’s provided the best value for money and unlike some, he at least maintains his level of play in the postseason. What you see is what you get.

Not every player goes charging around like Clark or Tucker, does that make them a coward?

He got paid $12M his first year for seven goals and 27 points in 56 games.

I don't think that is very good value myself.
 
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Please with Tavares lol. His signing is the reason we are in this mess. 11 mil was a big overpayment for him regardless if it was true or not that the crummy Sharks offered him 13 mil. The Leafs should have offered 9.5 max and let Tavares choose between playing at home in Toronto or for the bottom feeder Sharks.

Tavares did the Leafs no favors. When he signed for 11 mil x 8 he was the 2nd largest cap hit in the NHL behind McDavid, which is comical for a dude who won nothing and his career max in points was 86. Like I said, the following year, Kucherov commits to the Bolts for 9.5 x 8 after winning the Hart and scoring 126 points -- that is what you call giving your team a discount. 11 for Tavares was a joke the second it happened. The chain reaction was the younger core licking their chops for big pay days after the Leafs paid 11 mil for an outsider.

You might be right, but it's still irrelevant to my point.

The rumour is that Tavares took less money to come here. Full stop. The rest of the core not only didn't take a discount, they gouged the team for every last penny they could.

Nylander held out literally until the last minute.

The Tavares signing might be the reason the Leafs are in cap hell. But that's not his fault. We shouldn't be blaming Tavares for living out his childhood dreams.

Regardless of whether you, I, or anyone else feels $11M for Tavares is too much is besides the point.

The point is, he took less money to play here.

He also just put up 40 goals for 6 million in real dollars if you go down that road

So it works out as a wash is what I am saying, yes.

It wasn't the value deal that some present it as just because he finally earned his worth the last year or two of the deal.
 
He also just put up 40 goals for 6 million in real dollars if you go down that road
Look at Gaudreau ,Kadri, Huberdeau and Pasta for the real bargains. Young players will normally outperform their contracts towards the end. He isnt close to the class leaders in that respect and he got more money than them against the early years. None of the others have a $6.9 for 27 points on their resume. He is a bit of a bloodsucker.
 
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I think Willy gets a real nice dman and maybe a pic. I read what guys are saying, Willy is worth a lot more than you think. He has consistently performed and I think he has played pretty well in the playoffs for them. 40 goal scorers are worth quite a bit.

I think he gets more than that, especially if he agrees to an extension. PLD's trade should be the standard.
 
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WHY would Willy agree to an extention just to do the Leafs a favour when he can get 10+ next sumer when the cap jumps up? The trade will be for 1 year of Willy, that's it. So it will not be a haul.
 
WHY would Willy agree to an extention just to do the Leafs a favour when he can get 10+ next sumer when the cap jumps up? The trade will be for 1 year of Willy, that's it. So it will not be a haul.
You can get paid or you can win, and it can't be both.

Let him go if he doesn't want to win.
 
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You can get paid or you can win, and it can't be both.

Let him go if he doesn't want to win.
That has to apply to the entire core, except Tavares who we just want to get rid of. If you want more than your comps, goodbye. Willies comps are in the $9 range, so we should expect to pay that.
 
That has to apply to the entire core, except Tavares who we just want to get rid of. If you want more than your comps, goodbye. Willies comps are in the $9 range, so we should expect to pay that.
It absolutely should apply to Matthews and Marner too. Willys defence puts him in the 8.5m range imo.
 
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It's July 3rd I wouldn't expect it to be going particularly well at this point it is VERY early in the process it's normal to start high that's how negotiation works.
 
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