Rumor: Nylander like Matthews unextended. Nothing to see here.

[PROUD PAPA]

I do wonder what Nylander would/will fetch in a trade. Some GM may just be enamored with him.

 

[sxvnert]

Nylander knows hes worth at least 9-9.5m on the open market, Leafs are offering much less.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Nylander knows hes worth at least 9-9.5m on the open market, Leafs are offering much less.

Nylander is worth MUCH more than that on the open market.

All of the ufa comparables floating around here decided to not use their leverage to test the open market. They chose to stay with their team at a aav/term they considered fair without a bidding war.

But bidding wars for a 40 goal/90 point players (3 points shy) would get out of hand. It would be significantly higher than 9 mil.

Nylandrers stats the past 2 years are BETTER than Tavares' stats his last 2 years before ufa. His bidding war had teams offering 13 freaking mil (but we don't know at what term).

I'd say an open market bidding war next year over a 40 goal/90 point Nylander when the cap is (allegedly) significantly higher will be somewhere around 11 mil.

 

[thewave]

Nylander is worth MUCH more than that on the open market.

All of the ufa comparables floating around here decided to not use their leverage to test the open market. They chose to stay with their team at a aav/term they considered fair without a bidding war.

But bidding wars for a 40 goal/90 point players (3 points shy) would get out of hand. It would be significantly higher than 9 mil.

Nylandrers stats the past 2 years are BETTER than Tavares' stats his last 2 years before ufa. His bidding war had teams offering 13 freaking mil (but we don't know at what term).

I'd say an open market bidding war next year over a 40 goal/90 point Nylander when the cap is (allegedly) significantly higher will be somewhere around 11 mil.

Don't forget the all important stat... He did it on the second line with a lead foot C. He gets the zone, he makes the chances.

 

[socko]

Nylander is nowhere near as overrated as Tavares was though. Tavares got hyped up by the Islanders fans kind of like the Canes fans and Pesce. The Leafs fans should really try this hype stuff, it seems to work quite well, at least on HF.

 

[New Liskeard]

Nylander is nowhere near as overrated as Tavares was though. Tavares got hyped up by the Islanders fans kind of like the Canes fans and Pesce. The Leafs fans should really try this hype stuff, it seems to work quite well, at least on HF.

Tavares is a likely HOFer. Hard to call that overrated.

 

[613Leafer]

I do wonder what Nylander would/will fetch in a trade. Some GM may just be enamored with him.

Yep. Especially if we can add Domi (or get a decent secondary scorer back as part of a Nylander trade). The offence should be fine with Matthews, Marner, Tavares, Bertuzzi, Knies, and Domi/Nylander Trade (+ Klingberg producing from the backend).

 

[capfit9]

Nylander knows hes worth at least 9-9.5m on the open market, Leafs are offering much less.

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[Bryson03tml]

If Nylander is asking for more than 10 million on an 8 year deal he needs to be given a chance to negotiate with other teams and be sent packing
A first round pick and the other teams top prospect that is ready to crack an nhl line up can be the return

 

[socko]

Nylander's biggest regret in life is that he didn't get a 2nd crack at Kyle Dubas. Maybe he can get himself traded to Pitt and there is still a chance.

 

[daveleaf]

I would hate to see him go because I think with Reeves, Bertuzzi and Domi he is going to have a lot more space out there. They do need a solid d man though.

 

[Gabriel426]

If Nylander is asking for more than 10 million on an 8 year deal he needs to be given a chance to negotiate with other teams and be sent packing
A first round pick and the other teams top prospect that is ready to crack an nhl line up can be the return

If he is looking at 10mil, you trade him right away for great package

 

[A1LeafNation]

If he is looking at 10mil, you trade him right away for great package

If he wants 10m, what makes you think other teams want him for 10m? Looks like his demands hurt his trade value.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

The optimist in me says Tre has been battle tested with situations in Calgary (Tkachuk trade, and Gaudreau walk) that he'd be ready to play a little more "rough" with the agent - if they seem far apart.

I.e a stiffer deadline...and less dragging feet.

We shall see. I bounce back and forth on Nylander trade/stay...I'm sure the new GM has less of an attachment, as long as Shanny and Co. Haven't stuck their nose in on these decisions

 

[Gabriel426]

If he wants 10m, what makes you think other teams want him for 10m? Looks like his demands hurt his trade value.

Teams that need top end talents.

The main reason why all those mid tiers UFA are always signed for over market value is bc teams can’t sign top end guys and can only trade for them.

The problem is you will need quality to trade for someone like Willie and not a lot of teams got that.

I can see Seattle asking with Wright and a Dman plus future 1st coming back our way for Willie.

 

[Martin Skoula]

If he wants 10m, what makes you think other teams want him for 10m? Looks like his demands hurt his trade value.

Lou paid mid-1st++ for the privilege of signing 30/30 Horvat with no defense for 8.5x8. No, the center gap does not cover 2 years of cap inflation + the absolute canyon offensively.

 

[Gabriel426]

The optimist in me says Tre has been battle tested with situations in Calgary (Tkachuk trade, and Gaudreau walk) that he'd be ready to play a little more "rough" with the agent - if they seem far apart.

I.e a stiffer deadline...and less dragging feet.

We shall see. I bounce back and forth on Nylander trade/stay...I'm sure the new GM has less of an attachment, as long as Shanny and Co. Haven't stuck their nose in on these decisions

I think with the Bert’s signing and Knies being the real deal. It shows that the team is willing to part with Willie or MM, assuming Bert and Knies played well and bring intangibles that Leafs lacked.

Will Willie read it and say, can’t ask for the moon as they have internal replacements for me, let’s get something done fairly bc I want to play in TO.

Lou paid mid-1st++ for the privilege of signing 30/30 Horvat with no defense for 8.5x8. No, the center gap does not cover 2 years of cap inflation + the absolute canyon offensively.

That ++ is a former 1st rounder who had yet to play in the NHL despite Islanders lacking in scoring and the other one is a former 1st rounder who acted as cap dump.

 

[EGL22]

If he wants 10m, what makes you think other teams want him for 10m? Looks like his demands hurt his trade value.

This is an important point.

! years of Willy we cannot expect a big return and if he sticks to a 10m demand no team is giving up big assets and also pay him that much.

The only way we get a real good return is if a team is okay with a 9 or a bit above and at least 5 years.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Lou paid mid-1st++ for the privilege of signing 30/30 Horvat with no defense for 8.5x8. No, the center gap does not cover 2 years of cap inflation + the absolute canyon offensively.

When did Horvat announce he wants 10m+?

Teams that need top end talents.

The main reason why all those mid tiers UFA are always signed for over market value is bc teams can’t sign top end guys and can only trade for them.

The problem is you will need quality to trade for someone like Willie and not a lot of teams got that.

I can see Seattle asking with Wright and a Dman plus future 1st coming back our way for Willie.

If he was a top talent worth 10m, Leafs would have signed him. He's not worth 10m and doubt any teams think this too.

 

[Gabriel426]

When did Horvat announce he wants 10m+?


If he was a top talent worth 10m, Leafs would have signed him. He's not worth 10m and doubt any teams think this too.

I don’t think Willie is 9.5mil talent. He should be around 9mil.
But I do see some team willing to sign him as a UFA for 10mil.

 

[Martin Skoula]

When did Horvat announce he wants 10m+?


If he was a top talent worth 10m, Leafs would have signed him. He's not worth 10m and doubt any teams think this too.

You don’t think anyone would want to give a significantly better player 1.5 mil more? 8 digits is just too scary of a number even though worse players are making a mil less and teams are paying assets for the privilege of doing so.

 

[Legion34]

We also don't know the term San Jose offered Tavares. For all we know it was 13 x 4. The usual suspects love to use such rumors to rationalize the unprecedented dramatic overpayments.

Tavares averaged as a low 30 goal ppg player. The fact that he was the 2nd highest cap hit in the league for even one second is quite frankly shocking. How much are ppg players getting on the open market today? We're seeing 100 point players signing for less than 10, let alone (lol) 13.

Nylanders stats the past 2 seasons are BETTER than Tavares final two seasons before becoming a ufa. Is anybody going to offer Nylander 13 mil?

No. We know he was offered 7x13. 91 million. His jersey number.

Tavares was a 2 time hart finalist and lost the art Ross by 1 point.

He was a top 3 combined scorer for years.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

I think with the Bert’s signing and Knies being the real deal. It shows that the team is willing to part with Willie or MM, assuming Bert and Knies played well and bring intangibles that Leafs lacked.

Will Willie read it and say, can’t ask for the moon as they have internal replacements for me, let’s get something done fairly bc I want to play in TO.

Agreed.

I think Willie will need to want Toronto, as much or more than we want him (and I'm sure we want him quite alot)

But we're unable to back the brinks truck up for him AND he clearly knows we've explored the options on trading him. So, either sign a respectable deal or managment must decide what's best for the team.

If he wants that cap spike payday, then sign a 2yr deal and bet on yourself. Win a cup...then make 10m+ from a team with a shitload of capspace.

 

[EGL22]

Agreed.

I think Willie will need to want Toronto, as much or more than we want him (and I'm sure we want him quite alot)

But we're unable to back the brinks truck up for him AND he clearly knows we've explored the options on trading him. So, either sign a respectable deal or managment must decide what's best for the team.

If he wants that cap spike payday, then sign a 2yr deal and bet on yourself. Win a cup...then make 10m+ from a team with a shitload of capspace.

I don't think Willy gives a rats ass about Toronto.

Willy is all about Willy.

Just like his old man whoever coughs up the dough he'll sign with,top 5 or bottom 5 will not matter.

 

[Gabriel426]

Send Willie to Caps and get Wilson and future back. Then we can really enjoy our summer