Rumor: Nylander like Matthews unextended. Nothing to see here.

[Boxscore]

Nylander will sign and it won’t matter at what price as fans will still think it’s a overpayment

Not if it's $8.5 mil x 8, which is exactly where he should be. Matt Tkachuk just signed for $9.5 x 8 after scoring 40 goals and 100+ points. 8.5 x 8 for Nylander is more than fair and should be an easy signing for both him and the Leafs.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Problem is most of the hood replacement guys are signed and gone

It’s not his fault he only had an entire month to talk to Nylander and only figured out they’re far apart on a deal after the draft and then he was busy for a few days and forgot about FA. You have unrealistic expectations for how much a GM can do in 30 days, having conversations with an agent is hard labor intensive work.

 

[GoonieFace]

Not if it's $8.5 mil x 8, which is exactly where he should be. Matt Tkachuk just signed for $9.5 x 8 after scoring 40 goals and 100+ points. 8.5 x 8 for Nylander is more than fair and should be an easy signing for both him and the Leafs.

Ya but the cap is going up
Ya but no state tax
Ya but Canada has Ketchup chips
So many excuses as to why they will most likely have to overpay or trade him

 

[34]

willy is gone. Huge disappointment to see him walk. Tavares needs to waive his no trade and get out of here

 

[Da Mash]

Not if it's $8.5 mil x 8, which is exactly where he should be. Matt Tkachuk just signed for $9.5 x 8 after scoring 40 goals and 100+ points. 8.5 x 8 for Nylander is more than fair and should be an easy signing for both him and the Leafs.

We have no idea what the market is or what the agent is asking. It’s all opinions from mediots.

There is no hurry ….the only thing that changes was Nylander had to add was 10 teams he doesn’t want to be traded too

We also have to consider what actual dollars goes to the player. It’s not the same with taxes and such. So you can’t compare someone contract with no state tax to a contract where taxes are high.

 

[Nylanderthal]

It’s not his fault he only had an entire month to talk to Nylander and only figured out they’re far apart on a deal after the draft and then he was busy for a few days and forgot about FA. You have unrealistic expectations for how much a GM can do in 30 days, having conversations with an agent is hard labor intensive work.

How long do those conversations take? “Hey Lewis it’s Brad here, just wanted to see where you and Willy sit with regard to an extension? Oh, 8 x 11m? Cool lemme see what teams might be interested” or… “oh, you want $10? Well we see comps at 8-8.5.”And then you negotiate down to a middle ground, or you don’t. Lots of UFA’s get deals done in HOURS.
No excuses, tre is a clown

 

[Boxscore]

We have no idea what the market is or what the agent is asking. It’s all opinions from mediots.

There is no hurry ….the only thing that changes was Nylander had to add was 10 teams he doesn’t want to be traded too

We also have to consider what actual dollars goes to the player. It’s not the same with taxes and such. So you can’t compare someone contract with no state tax to a contract where taxes are high.

We can reasonably gather. It doesn't take a media insider to realize if the player was willing to take a fair price, and commit long-term, a deal would be done. The Leafs have been nothing short of overgenerous with their core contracts which makes it obvious the player either wants way too much money or an incredibly short term.

 

[Martin Skoula]

How long do those conversations take? “Hey Lewis it’s Brad here, just wanted to see where you and Willy sit with regard to an extension? Oh, 8 x 11m? Cool lemme see what teams might be interested” or… “oh, you want $10? Well we see comps at 8-8.5.”And then you negotiate down to a middle ground, or you don’t. Lots of UFA’s get deals done in HOURS.
No excuses, tre is a clown

That is the point, yes. We were told he was doing work behind the scenes all month but it seems like Calgary could have told him he’s not allowed doing any GM work until their pick was made at the draft and there wouldn’t be any difference to what actually ended up happening. If you get hired to reset the culture and get the core signed or traded, “oops I didn’t know we’re not close on a contract” after the draft is over is an automatic failing grade.

Getting to July 1st NMCs kicking in with no clarity on these deals or direction for the team is the one thing that could not be allowed to happen under any circumstances lol.

 

[GoonieFace]

How long do those conversations take? “Hey Lewis it’s Brad here, just wanted to see where you and Willy sit with regard to an extension? Oh, 8 x 11m? Cool lemme see what teams might be interested” or… “oh, you want $10? Well we see comps at 8-8.5.”And then you negotiate down to a middle ground, or you don’t. Lots of UFA’s get deals done in HOURS.
No excuses, tre is a clown

Yeah I still wish we had Dubas here to sign terrible contracts. 2 already for him today in Pittsburgh

 

[ToneDog]

It’s not his fault he only had an entire month to talk to Nylander and only figured out they’re far apart on a deal after the draft and then he was busy for a few days and forgot about FA. You have unrealistic expectations for how much a GM can do in 30 days, having conversations with an agent is hard labor intensive work.

Come on, Tre was also busy prepping for the draft. LOL.

 

[PromisedLand]

if leafs sign nylander or matthews to a ridiculous aav am gonna be so freakin man given they've been very quiet today

 

[hullsy47]

Yeah I still wish we had Dubas here to sign terrible contracts. 2 already for him today in Pittsburgh

I agree he didn't do great

 

[Menzinger]

Any actual updates today?

They're still talking. It's probably going to be an ongoing process for a while

 

[hullsy47]

They're still talking. It's probably going to be an ongoing process for a while

I think willy knows that he could actually get traded
Might be a good thing dubas is gone
Let's hear from O'Reilly before we jump the gun
His wife may not have loved toronto

 

[notDatsyuk]

Incorrect. The most enjoyable it was to be a Leafs fan was in the early-to-mid-90s after the Dougie Gilmour trade, and they didn't win it all. Those teams had heart, skills, passion, thrills, and absolutely despised losing. They were also coached by a bulldog general who motivated his players to go through wall for him.

Talk about a failed era? What defines failure more than having a team of spoiled brats who care more about scrapping for contract dollars than they do playoff wins? When these kids get bounced from the playoffs, they follow Bieber around and complain about the dress code. This is the epitome of loser-ish glorification.

The most enjoyable era was the 60s, where I watched us win four Cups.

With that caveat, you're right about the rest.

 

[Legion34]

Ya but the cap is going up
Ya but no state tax
Ya but Canada has Ketchup chips
So many excuses as to why they will most likely have to overpay or trade him

If you don’t think taxes have anything to do with this. You may want to look at the differences I Yzermans signings in detroit vs Tampa

 

[TimeZone]

Not if it's $8.5 mil x 8, which is exactly where he should be. Matt Tkachuk just signed for $9.5 x 8 after scoring 40 goals and 100+ points. 8.5 x 8 for Nylander is more than fair and should be an easy signing
for both him and the Leafs.

At the same time Timo just signed for 8.8x8, and Nylander is a better player than Meier.

 

[ULF_55]

Not if it's $8.5 mil x 8, which is exactly where he should be. Matt Tkachuk just signed for $9.5 x 8 after scoring 40 goals and 100+ points. 8.5 x 8 for Nylander is more than fair and should be an easy signing for both him and the Leafs.

Tkachuk has a full NMC, and his take home after state and federal:
In Florida: $5,796,273
In Ontario: $4,450,218

Simplistic, but actual differences in taxes are,as you see ,substantial.

Accountants will work on both, the starting point is as above.

 

[Boxscore]

At the same time Timo just signed for 8.8x8, and Nylander is a better player than Meier.

They are comparable. And Timo doesn't have Matthews, Marner, Tavares, and Rielly on their team who all need to be paid good salaries as well. Situation dictates. When you're dealing with a team blessed with some talented pieces, it's not always about "what I should make" -- it's more about, "what can I make that is good for me but can help the team build a winner". Why do we keep forgetting this?

If there was no hard cap the Leafs could pay Nylander 20 million a year for all I care.

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

At the same time Timo just signed for 8.8x8, and Nylander is a better player than Meier.

All due respect my man, I like your posts, but gotta disagree. He’s definitely more skilled and a better playmaker but Meier is a beast to handle and actually hits a bit. If I could swap Nylander for Meier straight up with exact same contract, I do it every day and twice on Sunday. I love his power forward style and I couldn’t care any less that Willy looks pretty dangling around the perimeter

I want North-South players who drive the net and scrum it up

 

[Boxscore]

Tkachuk has a full NMC, and his take home after state and federal:
In Florida: $5,796,273
In Ontario: $4,450,218

Simplistic, but actual differences in taxes are,as you see ,substantial.

Accountants will work on both, the starting point is as above.

Doesn't matter. Take it up with the NHL and the PA -- they agreed to a hard cap. As long as the hard cap number is the same in Toronto as it is Florida, Leafs players will need to settle for less to be here. If Nylander signs an 8 x 8.5 deal for $64 million, I don't think he'll miss a meal.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

It’s not his fault he only had an entire month to talk to Nylander and only figured out they’re far apart on a deal after the draft and then he was busy for a few days and forgot about FA. You have unrealistic expectations for how much a GM can do in 30 days, having conversations with an agent is hard labor intensive work.

It's funny because it's true.

 

[ULF_55]

Doesn't matter. Take it up with the NHL and the PA -- they agreed to a hard cap. As long as the hard cap number is the same in Toronto as it is Florida, Leafs players will need to settle for less to be here. If Nylander signs an 8 x 8.5 deal for $64 million, I don't think he'll miss a meal.

Well, you might think that, but UFA players decide where to sign, not the teams.

When a player can get a NMC, and get the same contract in a low/no-state tax location why would they sign in a high state/province tax location?

Because playing for the Leafs is considered more desirable? Don't Leafs fans wish that were so.

 

[alliuk12]

Well with the bullshit trades that went on today willy is getting the f*** out of toronto asap it’s a wonder that he has not asked to be to another team

 

[Boxscore]

Well, you might think that, but UFA players decide where to sign, not the teams.

When a player can get a NMC, and get the same contract in a low/no-state tax location why would they sign in a high state/province tax location?

Because playing for the Leafs is considered more desirable? Don't Leafs fans wish that were so.

Then they should request trades to Florida. I don't know what to tell you, but I care about the Leafs, not the players trying to squeeze every dollar out of them because another player in Florida pays less taxes. Pastrnak sure didn't have a problem re-upping long-term in Boston or Hughes in NJ.