Norris Trophy Tournament (1992-Present) Round 4: 2000 Pronger vs 1992 Leetch

[blundluntman]

MATCHUP #2 (Round 4): Chris Pronger (2000) vs Brian Leetch (1992)

Chris Pronger (1999-00):

Games Played	Goals	Assists	Points	Minutes Per Game	Other Stats	Awards/Honors
79	14	48	62	26:35	+52	Norris Trophy, 1st AST, Hart Trophy

Brian Leetch (1991-92):

Games Played	Goals	Assists	Points	Minutes Per Game	Other Stats	Awards/Honors
82	22	80	102	N/A	+25	Norris Trophy, 1st AST, 9th in Hart

Round 4 Matchups:
03 Lidstrom vs 94 Bourque (Still Active) Thread
00 Pronger vs 92 Leetch

Round 1 Results
Round 2 Results
Round 3 Results

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[Hockey Outsider]

I think Pronger had the stronger season.

Leetch outscored Pronger by 40 points, which is significant, but at least part of the difference is because the NHL was much higher-scoring in the early 1990's compared to the Dead Puck Era. (As a rough estimate, hockey-reference.com has Leetch ahead 91-67 in adjusted points - he's still ahead, but it's certainly closer).

Pronger was on the ice for just 45 ES goals against in 1,348 ES minutes. That gives him a personal GAA of 2.00, playing in front of Roman Turek (an average goalie who, I would argue, looked good in 2000 largely because he was playing behind Pronger and MacInnis). Leetch was on the ice for 89 ES goals. Obviously we don't have ice time data for that far back, but even if we make a ballpark estimate of his ice time, and take into account the leaguewide scoring environment, he's just not close to Pronger. (That's consistent with their reputations - I find Leetch was better defensively than he's usually given credit for, but Pronger was an all-time great defensive defenseman).

 

[Master P]

Pronger is what every D-man should strive to become.


In my humble opinion.

 

[psycat]

I think Pronger had the stronger season.

Leetch outscored Pronger by 40 points, which is significant, but at least part of the difference is because the NHL was much higher-scoring in the early 1990's compared to the Dead Puck Era. (As a rough estimate, hockey-reference.com has Leetch ahead 91-67 in adjusted points - he's still ahead, but it's certainly closer).

Pronger was on the ice for just 45 ES goals against in 1,348 ES minutes. That gives him a personal GAA of 2.00, playing in front of Roman Turek (an average goalie who, I would argue, looked good in 2000 largely because he was playing behind Pronger and MacInnis). Leetch was on the ice for 89 ES goals. Obviously we don't have ice time data for that far back, but even if we make a ballpark estimate of his ice time, and take into account the leaguewide scoring environment, he's just not close to Pronger. (That's consistent with their reputations - I find Leetch was better defensively than he's usually given credit for, but Pronger was an all-time great defensive defenseman).

Nvm. Good writeup.-

 

[Regal]

I think Pronger had the stronger season.

Leetch outscored Pronger by 40 points, which is significant, but at least part of the difference is because the NHL was much higher-scoring in the early 1990's compared to the Dead Puck Era. (As a rough estimate, hockey-reference.com has Leetch ahead 91-67 in adjusted points - he's still ahead, but it's certainly closer).

Pronger was on the ice for just 45 ES goals against in 1,348 ES minutes. That gives him a personal GAA of 2.00, playing in front of Roman Turek (an average goalie who, I would argue, looked good in 2000 largely because he was playing behind Pronger and MacInnis). Leetch was on the ice for 89 ES goals. Obviously we don't have ice time data for that far back, but even if we make a ballpark estimate of his ice time, and take into account the leaguewide scoring environment, he's just not close to Pronger. (That's consistent with their reputations - I find Leetch was better defensively than he's usually given credit for, but Pronger was an all-time great defensive defenseman).

A 2.00 G/60 at ES actually seems surprisingly high for Pronger that year considering the team only averaged 2 GA per game overall.