Norris Trophy Tournament (1992-Present) Round 1: 2013 P.K. Subban vs 1994 Ray Bourque

Which Norris Trophy Winner Had the Better Season?


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blundluntman

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MATCHUP #10 (Round 1): P.K. Subban (2013) vs Ray Bouruqe (1994)

P.K. Subban (2012-13):

Games PlayedGoalsAssistsPointsMinutes Per GameOther StatsAwards/Honors
4211273823:15+12, 10 Takeaways, 42 Giveaways, 49 Blocked Shots, 51 HitsNorris Trophy, 1st AST, 13th in Hart

Ray Bourque (1993-94):
Games PlayedGoalsAssistsPointsMinutes Per GameOther StatsAwards/Honors
72207191N/A+26Norris Trophy, 1st AST, 6th in Hart

Round 1 Matchups
24 Hughes vs 20 Josi (Still Active) Thread
23 Karlsson vs 95 Coffey (Still Active) Thread
22 Makar vs 04 Niedermayer (Still Active) Thread
21 Fox vs 97 Leetch (Still Active) Thread
19 Giordano vs 17 Burns (Still Active) Thread
18 Hedman vs 12 Karlsson (Still Active) Thread
16 Doughty vs 03 Lidstrom (Still Active) Thread
15 Karlsson vs 10 Keith (Still Active) Thread
14 Keith vs 07 Lidstrom (Still Active) Thread
13 Subban vs 94 Bourque
09 Chara vs 00 Pronger
08 Lidstrom vs 93 Chelios
06 Lidstrom vs 96 Chelios
02 Lidstrom vs 01 Lidstrom
99 MacIniss vs 98 Blake

Note: Couldn't find advanced metrics for any seasons prior to 2009 so please try your best not to solely rely on them to evaluate players in discussions.
 

ESH

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Not much to discuss here. Subban had a good season, but Bourque is in a whole different category of player.
 

Run the Gauntlet

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Somebody mentioned a sweep well there's the spite vote to ruin it.
Anyway, i thought Bourque was finally going to get a 100 points, before he got injured late in that season.
 

Bouboumaster

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Somebody mentioned a sweep well there's the spite vote to ruin it.




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Bouboumaster

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And you wonder why people don't take you seriously............:help:

Are you butthurt that Bourque didn't get a clean sweep on that poll?
I litteraly said in that quote that Bourque was the answer, even tho I voted for Subban (to spite the Bruins fans, mainly)
What's wrong with you, are you like 9 years old or something?
 

wetcoast

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Are you butthurt that Bourque didn't get a clean sweep on that poll?
No this wasn't a hard poll to answer but for some reason you decided to make it hard


I litteraly said in that quote that Bourque was the answer, even tho I voted for Subban (to spite the Bruins fans, mainly)

What's wrong with you, are you like 9 years old or something?
See above as it sounds like you are projecting again.
 

Bouboumaster

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No this wasn't a hard poll to answer but for some reason you decided to make it hard

"Decided to make it hard"

Poor poor Wetcoast can't deal with a pity vote for Subban
I don't know what to tell you, other than outside, it's a way harder life than HFBoard

As for the rest, "No it's YOU" rebuttal make me think that you are truly 9 years old.
At best!
 

blundluntman

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No need to go back and forth over a pity vote everyone. If anything, I'll ask those voters to rescind/change their vote (or consider not counting them) once its time to post the final results for this round. Either way it doesn't really matter, these kinda things have happened in basically every tournament I've run so far.
 

benr

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Voted Subban even though it’s a weak Norris, as players from the 90s are just too far behind the skill and fitness of modern players. Bourque couldn’t hang with subban realistically
 
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Crow

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Voted Subban even though it’s a weak Norris, as players from the 90s are just too far behind the skill and fitness of modern players. Bourque couldn’t hang with subban realistically
He played until 2001. Was Norris runner up at 40 years old that year. He’d shit all over subbans game in his prime.
 

tabness

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changing my vote to Subban in solidarity with @Bouboumaster against the guys who take HF polls this seriously lol

always felt Bourque's reputation especially here exceeded his play slightly anyway
 

Jack Spider

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Subban deserved his Norris. He played with Markov, Bouillon and Emlelin and they were hard to play against Subban had his one timer and the spinorama carry into his own zone if needed, which was not popular back then.
 

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