Norris trophy (99.8% complete historical results, 1954-2023)

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Introduction

I have nearly the complete Norris trophy voting results from the inception of the award (1953-54) until present (2022-23). The data is 99.8% complete (and I'll prove how I know this).

Standard disclaimers - the Norris trophy voting doesn't take into account the playoffs or international tournaments. The voters may or may not actually be intelligent, objective hockey fans.

Still, despite those issues, I think there's enough interesting information that it's worth reviewing the 69 years worth of data.

For the sake of not destroying HFBoards servers, I'm not posting all the data. I'd like to think I've posted everything that would be interesting to a passionate (but not insane) fan. If you want more information, ask me.

Note 1: there's a lot of data here. I've tried my best to ensure everything is consistent but let me know if you see any errors.

Note 2: I often refer to "Norris trophy share". This equals the number of votes a defenseman earned, divided by the maximum number possible votes. So a player who wins a unanimous Norris trophy would have a 100% share, and it scales down from there.
 
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Detailed results by player - 5% threshold

This table shows the following:

Column 1: year
Column 2: player name
Column 3: votes earned
Column 4: maximum possible number of votes that could have been earned that year
Column 5: Norris shares
Column 6: rank during the year

YearPlayerVotesMaxPercentageRank
2021​
Adam Fox
743​
1000​
74.3%​
1​
2022​
Adam Fox
248​
1950​
12.7%​
5​
2023​
Adam Fox
1125​
1960​
57.4%​
2​
2004​
Adrian Aucoin
166​
1040​
16.0%​
5​
1969​
Al Arbour
17​
180​
9.4%​
5​
1970​
Al Arbour
9​
180​
5.0%​
6​
1989​
Al MacInnis
57​
315​
18.1%​
3​
1990​
Al MacInnis
127​
315​
40.3%​
2​
1991​
Al MacInnis
228​
330​
69.1%​
2​
1994​
Al MacInnis
60​
270​
22.2%​
3​
1999​
Al MacInnis
548​
560​
97.9%​
1​
2001​
Al MacInnis
49​
620​
7.9%​
7​
2003​
Al MacInnis
486​
620​
78.4%​
2​
2012​
Alex Pietrangelo
381​
1490​
25.6%​
4​
2014​
Alex Pietrangelo
304​
1370​
22.2%​
5​
2020​
Alex Pietrangelo
527​
1700​
31.0%​
4​
1960​
Allan Stanley
42​
180​
23.3%​
2​
1961​
Allan Stanley
27​
180​
15.0%​
3​
1962​
Allan Stanley
14​
180​
7.8%​
8​
1966​
Allan Stanley
23​
180​
12.8%​
7​
2008​
Andrei Markov
156​
1340​
11.6%​
6​
2009​
Andrei Markov
95​
1330​
7.1%​
6​
1982​
Barry Beck
28​
315​
8.9%​
7​
1954​
Bill Gadsby
38​
180​
21.1%​
3​
1956​
Bill Gadsby
59​
180​
32.8%​
2​
1957​
Bill Gadsby
32​
180​
17.8%​
3​
1958​
Bill Gadsby
119​
180​
66.1%​
2​
1959​
Bill Gadsby
67​
180​
37.2%​
2​
1960​
Bill Gadsby
22​
180​
12.2%​
6​
1963​
Bill Gadsby
25​
180​
13.9%​
5​
1965​
Bill Gadsby
40​
180​
22.2%​
3​
1968​
Bill White
9​
120​
7.5%​
7​
1972​
Bill White
25​
210​
11.9%​
3​
1973​
Bill White
36​
240​
15.0%​
3​
1974​
Bill White
44​
240​
18.3%​
3​
1960​
Bob Armstrong
12​
180​
6.7%​
7​
1964​
Bob Baun
9​
180​
5.0%​
7​
1965​
Bob Baun
15​
180​
8.3%​
8​
1954​
Bob Goldham
18​
180​
10.0%​
5​
1955​
Bob Goldham
16​
180​
8.9%​
4​
1967​
Bobby Orr
36​
180​
20.0%​
3​
1968​
Bobby Orr
68​
120​
56.7%​
1​
1969​
Bobby Orr
176​
180​
97.8%​
1​
1970​
Bobby Orr
180​
180​
100.0%​
1​
1971​
Bobby Orr
208​
210​
99.0%​
1​
1972​
Bobby Orr
204​
210​
97.1%​
1​
1973​
Bobby Orr
224​
240​
93.3%​
1​
1974​
Bobby Orr
236​
240​
98.3%​
1​
1975​
Bobby Orr
266​
270​
98.5%​
1​
1975​
Borje Salming
31​
270​
11.5%​
4​
1976​
Borje Salming
56​
270​
20.7%​
3​
1977​
Borje Salming
157​
270​
58.1%​
2​
1978​
Borje Salming
84​
270​
31.1%​
4​
1979​
Borje Salming
65​
255​
25.5%​
3​
1980​
Borje Salming
117​
315​
37.1%​
2​
1988​
Brad McCrimmon
70​
315​
22.2%​
4​
1989​
Brad McCrimmon
24​
315​
7.6%​
6​
1970​
Brad Park
58​
180​
32.2%​
2​
1971​
Brad Park
57​
210​
27.1%​
2​
1972​
Brad Park
117​
210​
55.7%​
2​
1973​
Brad Park
36​
240​
15.0%​
3​
1974​
Brad Park
98​
240​
40.8%​
2​
1976​
Brad Park
96​
270​
35.6%​
2​
1978​
Brad Park
135​
270​
50.0%​
2​
2016​
Brent Burns
619​
1500​
41.3%​
3​
2017​
Brent Burns
1437​
1670​
86.0%​
1​
2019​
Brent Burns
720​
1710​
42.1%​
2​
2008​
Brian Campbell
333​
1340​
24.9%​
5​
1981​
Brian Engblom
21​
315​
6.7%​
6​
1982​
Brian Engblom
31​
315​
9.8%​
6​
1991​
Brian Leetch
30​
330​
9.1%​
4​
1992​
Brian Leetch
335​
345​
97.1%​
1​
1996​
Brian Leetch
245​
540​
45.4%​
3​
1997​
Brian Leetch
494​
540​
91.5%​
1​
1999​
Brian Leetch
49​
560​
8.8%​
8​
2001​
Brian Leetch
126​
620​
20.3%​
5​
2004​
Bryan McCabe
189​
1040​
18.2%​
4​
2021​
Cale Makar
655​
1000​
65.5%​
2​
2022​
Cale Makar
1631​
1950​
83.6%​
1​
2023​
Cale Makar
553​
1960​
28.2%​
3​
1961​
Carl Brewer
9​
180​
5.0%​
6​
1962​
Carl Brewer
41​
180​
22.8%​
4​
1963​
Carl Brewer
81​
180​
45.0%​
2​
1965​
Carl Brewer
19​
180​
10.6%​
6​
1970​
Carl Brewer
22​
180​
12.2%​
3​
2021​
Charlie McAvoy
125​
1000​
12.5%​
5​
2022​
Charlie McAvoy
358​
1950​
18.4%​
4​
1989​
Chris Chelios
226​
315​
71.7%​
1​
1991​
Chris Chelios
56​
330​
17.0%​
3​
1993​
Chris Chelios
201​
250​
80.4%​
1​
1995​
Chris Chelios
39​
75​
52.0%​
2​
1996​
Chris Chelios
408​
540​
75.6%​
1​
1997​
Chris Chelios
172​
540​
31.9%​
4​
2000​
Chris Chelios
54​
580​
9.3%​
6​
2002​
Chris Chelios
431​
620​
69.5%​
2​
1998​
Chris Pronger
316​
540​
58.5%​
3​
1999​
Chris Pronger
107​
560​
19.1%​
4​
2000​
Chris Pronger
565​
580​
97.4%​
1​
2002​
Chris Pronger
62​
620​
10.0%​
5​
2004​
Chris Pronger
345​
1040​
33.2%​
3​
2006​
Chris Pronger
97​
1290​
7.5%​
7​
2007​
Chris Pronger
608​
1430​
42.5%​
3​
2010​
Chris Pronger
168​
1330​
12.6%​
5​
1982​
Craig Hartsburg
54​
315​
17.1%​
4​
2007​
Dan Boyle
219​
1430​
15.3%​
4​
2009​
Dan Boyle
173​
1330​
13.0%​
5​
2010​
Dan Boyle
116​
1330​
8.7%​
6​
2021​
Darnell Nurse
76​
1000​
7.6%​
7​
1997​
Darryl Sydor
45​
540​
8.3%​
7​
1975​
Denis Potvin
99​
270​
36.7%​
2​
1976​
Denis Potvin
237​
270​
87.8%​
1​
1977​
Denis Potvin
58​
270​
21.5%​
3​
1978​
Denis Potvin
155​
270​
57.4%​
1​
1979​
Denis Potvin
228​
255​
89.4%​
1​
1981​
Denis Potvin
113​
315​
35.9%​
2​
1982​
Denis Potvin
27​
315​
8.6%​
8​
1984​
Denis Potvin
66​
310​
21.3%​
4​
1999​
Derian Hatcher
53​
560​
9.5%​
7​
2003​
Derian Hatcher
142​
620​
22.9%​
3​
2007​
Dion Phaneuf
98​
1430​
6.9%​
6​
2008​
Dion Phaneuf
561​
1340​
41.9%​
2​
1964​
Doug Barkley
9​
180​
5.0%​
7​
1966​
Doug Barkley
30​
180​
16.7%​
5​
1954​
Doug Harvey
57​
180​
31.7%​
2​
1955​
Doug Harvey
147​
180​
81.7%​
1​
1956​
Doug Harvey
156​
180​
86.7%​
1​
1957​
Doug Harvey
159​
180​
88.3%​
1​
1958​
Doug Harvey
153​
180​
85.0%​
1​
1959​
Doug Harvey
48​
180​
26.7%​
4​
1960​
Doug Harvey
129​
180​
71.7%​
1​
1961​
Doug Harvey
162​
180​
90.0%​
1​
1962​
Doug Harvey
102​
180​
56.7%​
1​
1963​
Doug Harvey
14​
180​
7.8%​
6​
1957​
Doug Mohns
23​
180​
12.8%​
5​
1962​
Doug Mohns
15​
180​
8.3%​
5​
1982​
Doug Wilson
177​
315​
56.2%​
1​
1983​
Doug Wilson
29​
315​
9.2%​
4​
1985​
Doug Wilson
84​
315​
26.7%​
4​
1990​
Doug Wilson
40​
315​
12.7%​
3​
2021​
Dougie Hamilton
239​
1000​
23.9%​
4​
2023​
Dougie Hamilton
270​
1960​
13.8%​
6​
2010​
Drew Doughty
662​
1330​
49.8%​
3​
2014​
Drew Doughty
284​
1370​
20.7%​
6​
2015​
Drew Doughty
889​
1570​
56.6%​
2​
2016​
Drew Doughty
1254​
1500​
83.6%​
1​
2018​
Drew Doughty
1164​
1640​
71.0%​
2​
2009​
Duncan Keith
95​
1330​
7.1%​
6​
2010​
Duncan Keith
1096​
1330​
82.4%​
1​
2013​
Duncan Keith
281​
1780​
15.8%​
6​
2014​
Duncan Keith
1033​
1370​
75.4%​
1​
2015​
Duncan Keith
134​
1570​
8.5%​
7​
2017​
Duncan Keith
384​
1670​
23.0%​
4​
2002​
Ed Jovanovski
53​
620​
8.5%​
6​
2003​
Ed Jovanovski
58​
620​
9.4%​
6​
1963​
Elmer Vasko
28​
180​
15.6%​
4​
1964​
Elmer Vasko
28​
180​
15.6%​
3​
1999​
Eric Desjardins
91​
560​
16.3%​
5​
2000​
Eric Desjardins
119​
580​
20.5%​
4​
2012​
Erik Karlsson
1069​
1490​
71.7%​
1​
2014​
Erik Karlsson
70​
1370​
5.1%​
7​
2015​
Erik Karlsson
964​
1570​
61.4%​
1​
2016​
Erik Karlsson
1020​
1500​
68.0%​
2​
2017​
Erik Karlsson
1292​
1670​
77.4%​
2​
2023​
Erik Karlsson
1585​
1960​
80.9%​
1​
1955​
Fern Flaman
32​
180​
17.8%​
3​
1956​
Fern Flaman
11​
180​
6.1%​
5​
1957​
Fern Flaman
32​
180​
17.8%​
3​
1958​
Fern Flaman
17​
180​
9.4%​
3​
1959​
Fern Flaman
34​
180​
18.9%​
5​
2013​
Francois Beauchemin
290​
1780​
16.3%​
4​
1999​
Fredrik Olausson
48​
560​
8.6%​
9​
1988​
Gary Suter
80​
315​
25.4%​
3​
1973​
Guy Lapointe
58​
240​
24.2%​
2​
1975​
Guy Lapointe
45​
270​
16.7%​
3​
1976​
Guy Lapointe
39​
270​
14.4%​
4​
1977​
Guy Lapointe
32​
270​
11.9%​
4​
2023​
Hampus Lindholm
483​
1960​
24.6%​
4​
1962​
Harry Howell
9​
180​
5.0%​
9​
1964​
Harry Howell
13​
180​
7.2%​
5​
1965​
Harry Howell
12​
180​
6.7%​
9​
1966​
Harry Howell
28​
180​
15.6%​
6​
1967​
Harry Howell
113​
180​
62.8%​
1​
1955​
Hugh Bolton
9​
180​
5.0%​
5​
2020​
Jaccob Slavin
138​
1700​
8.1%​
5​
1962​
Jack Evans
15​
180​
8.3%​
5​
1964​
Jacques Laperriere
25​
180​
13.9%​
4​
1965​
Jacques Laperriere
78​
180​
43.3%​
2​
1966​
Jacques Laperriere
89​
180​
49.4%​
1​
1968​
Jacques Laperriere
15​
120​
12.5%​
5​
1969​
Jacques Laperriere
9​
180​
5.0%​
6​
1970​
Jacques Laperriere
18​
180​
10.0%​
4​
1973​
Jacques Laperriere
25​
240​
10.4%​
5​
2021​
Jakob Chychrun
50​
1000​
5.0%​
10​
1966​
JC Tremblay
32​
180​
17.8%​
4​
1967​
JC Tremblay
18​
180​
10.0%​
5​
1968​
JC Tremblay
31​
120​
25.8%​
2​
1971​
JC Tremblay
35​
210​
16.7%​
3​
1962​
Jean-Guy Talbot
46​
180​
25.6%​
3​
1963​
Jean-Guy Talbot
11​
180​
6.1%​
7​
1968​
Jim Neilson
26​
120​
21.7%​
4​
1970​
Jim Neilson
11​
180​
6.1%​
5​
1980​
Jim Schoenfeld
85​
315​
27.0%​
3​
2018​
John Carlson
311​
1640​
19.0%​
5​
2019​
John Carlson
551​
1710​
32.2%​
4​
2020​
John Carlson
1267​
1700​
74.5%​
2​
2018​
John Klingberg
160​
1640​
9.8%​
6​
2023​
Josh Morrissey
337​
1960​
17.2%​
5​
2011​
Keith Yandle
312​
1270​
24.6%​
5​
1993​
Kevin Hatcher
17​
250​
6.8%​
4​
1982​
Kevin Lowe
20​
315​
6.3%​
10​
1988​
Kevin Lowe
24​
315​
7.6%​
5​
2007​
Kimmo Timonen
144​
1430​
10.1%​
5​
2011​
Kris Letang
144​
1270​
11.3%​
6​
2013​
Kris Letang
914​
1780​
51.3%​
3​
2015​
Kris Letang
80​
1570​
5.1%​
8​
2016​
Kris Letang
587​
1500​
39.1%​
4​
2019​
Kris Letang
145​
1710​
8.5%​
6​
2021​
Kris Letang
60​
1000​
6.0%​
9​
1981​
Larry Murphy
16​
315​
5.1%​
7​
1987​
Larry Murphy
31​
270​
11.5%​
3​
1992​
Larry Murphy
37​
345​
10.7%​
5​
1993​
Larry Murphy
93​
250​
37.2%​
3​
1995​
Larry Murphy
7​
75​
9.3%​
4​
1998​
Larry Murphy
47​
540​
8.7%​
6​
1977​
Larry Robinson
186​
270​
68.9%​
1​
1978​
Larry Robinson
85​
270​
31.5%​
3​
1979​
Larry Robinson
83​
255​
32.5%​
2​
1980​
Larry Robinson
239​
315​
75.9%​
1​
1981​
Larry Robinson
100​
315​
31.7%​
3​
1982​
Larry Robinson
50​
315​
15.9%​
5​
1986​
Larry Robinson
43​
300​
14.3%​
3​
1961​
Leo Boivin
15​
180​
8.3%​
5​
2011​
Lubomir Visnovsky
573​
1270​
45.1%​
4​
2021​
Mackenzie Weegar
74​
1000​
7.4%​
8​
1957​
Marcel Pronovost
15​
180​
8.3%​
6​
1959​
Marcel Pronovost
58​
180​
32.2%​
3​
1960​
Marcel Pronovost
39​
180​
21.7%​
3​
1961​
Marcel Pronovost
52​
180​
28.9%​
2​
1965​
Marcel Pronovost
20​
180​
11.1%​
5​
2015​
Mark Giordano
177​
1570​
11.3%​
6​
2019​
Mark Giordano
1690​
1710​
98.8%​
1​
1980​
Mark Howe
23​
315​
7.3%​
5​
1983​
Mark Howe
155​
315​
49.2%​
2​
1986​
Mark Howe
172​
300​
57.3%​
2​
1987​
Mark Howe
137​
270​
50.7%​
2​
2004​
Mathieu Schneider
144​
1040​
13.8%​
7​
2006​
Mathieu Schneider
111​
1290​
8.6%​
6​
2008​
Mike Green
84​
1340​
6.3%​
7​
2009​
Mike Green
982​
1330​
73.8%​
2​
2010​
Mike Green
831​
1330​
62.5%​
2​
1968​
Mike McMahon
8​
120​
6.7%​
8​
2023​
Miro Heiskanen
269​
1960​
13.7%​
7​
2019​
Morgan Reilly
515​
1710​
30.1%​
5​
1996​
Nicklas Lidstrom
54​
540​
10.0%​
6​
1997​
Nicklas Lidstrom
60​
540​
11.1%​
6​
1998​
Nicklas Lidstrom
369​
540​
68.3%​
2​
1999​
Nicklas Lidstrom
234​
560​
41.8%​
2​
2000​
Nicklas Lidstrom
400​
580​
69.0%​
2​
2001​
Nicklas Lidstrom
600​
620​
96.8%​
1​
2002​
Nicklas Lidstrom
472​
620​
76.1%​
1​
2003​
Nicklas Lidstrom
560​
620​
90.3%​
1​
2004​
Nicklas Lidstrom
165​
1040​
15.9%​
6​
2006​
Nicklas Lidstrom
1152​
1290​
89.3%​
1​
2007​
Nicklas Lidstrom
1217​
1430​
85.1%​
1​
2008​
Nicklas Lidstrom
1313​
1340​
98.0%​
1​
2009​
Nicklas Lidstrom
733​
1330​
55.1%​
3​
2010​
Nicklas Lidstrom
303​
1330​
22.8%​
4​
2011​
Nicklas Lidstrom
736​
1270​
58.0%​
1​
2012​
Nicklas Lidstrom
132​
1490​
8.9%​
5​
1966​
Pat Stapleton
40​
180​
22.2%​
3​
1971​
Pat Stapleton
23​
210​
11.0%​
4​
1972​
Pat Stapleton
16​
210​
7.6%​
4​
1982​
Paul Coffey
55​
315​
17.5%​
3​
1983​
Paul Coffey
24​
315​
7.6%​
5​
1984​
Paul Coffey
126​
310​
40.6%​
2​
1985​
Paul Coffey
223​
315​
70.8%​
1​
1986​
Paul Coffey
280​
300​
93.3%​
1​
1989​
Paul Coffey
115​
315​
36.5%​
2​
1990​
Paul Coffey
33​
315​
10.5%​
4​
1995​
Paul Coffey
69​
75​
92.0%​
1​
1996​
Paul Coffey
83​
540​
15.4%​
5​
1961​
Pete Goegan
9​
180​
5.0%​
6​
1990​
Phil Housley
32​
315​
10.2%​
5​
1992​
Phil Housley
82​
345​
23.8%​
3​
1993​
Phil Housley
16​
250​
6.4%​
5​
1999​
Phil Housley
40​
560​
7.1%​
10​
1959​
Pierre Pilote
19​
180​
10.6%​
6​
1960​
Pierre Pilote
33​
180​
18.3%​
4​
1961​
Pierre Pilote
24​
180​
13.3%​
4​
1962​
Pierre Pilote
47​
180​
26.1%​
2​
1963​
Pierre Pilote
98​
180​
54.4%​
1​
1964​
Pierre Pilote
138​
180​
76.7%​
1​
1965​
Pierre Pilote
93​
180​
51.7%​
1​
1966​
Pierre Pilote
54​
180​
30.0%​
2​
1967​
Pierre Pilote
95​
180​
52.8%​
2​
1968​
Pierre Pilote
11​
120​
9.2%​
6​
2013​
PK Subban
1266​
1780​
71.1%​
1​
2015​
PK Subban
801​
1570​
51.0%​
3​
2018​
PK Subban
565​
1640​
34.5%​
3​
2023​
Quinn Hughes
101​
1960​
5.2%​
9​
1981​
Randy Carlyle
120​
315​
38.1%​
1​
2023​
Rasmus Dahlin
262​
1960​
13.4%​
8​
1980​
Ray Bourque
51​
315​
16.2%​
4​
1981​
Ray Bourque
53​
315​
16.8%​
4​
1982​
Ray Bourque
80​
315​
25.4%​
2​
1983​
Ray Bourque
139​
315​
44.1%​
3​
1984​
Ray Bourque
120​
310​
38.7%​
3​
1985​
Ray Bourque
136​
315​
43.2%​
2​
1986​
Ray Bourque
25​
300​
8.3%​
4​
1987​
Ray Bourque
266​
270​
98.5%​
1​
1988​
Ray Bourque
245​
315​
77.8%​
1​
1989​
Ray Bourque
56​
315​
17.8%​
4​
1990​
Ray Bourque
315​
315​
100.0%​
1​
1991​
Ray Bourque
257​
330​
77.9%​
1​
1992​
Ray Bourque
112​
345​
32.5%​
2​
1993​
Ray Bourque
97​
250​
38.8%​
2​
1994​
Ray Bourque
199​
270​
73.7%​
1​
1995​
Ray Bourque
20​
75​
26.7%​
3​
1996​
Ray Bourque
403​
540​
74.6%​
2​
1997​
Ray Bourque
45​
540​
8.3%​
7​
1998​
Ray Bourque
37​
540​
6.9%​
7​
1999​
Ray Bourque
157​
560​
28.0%​
3​
2000​
Ray Bourque
36​
580​
6.2%​
7​
2001​
Ray Bourque
251​
620​
40.5%​
2​
1954​
Red Kelly
162​
180​
90.0%​
1​
1955​
Red Kelly
95​
180​
52.8%​
2​
1956​
Red Kelly
44​
180​
24.4%​
3​
1957​
Red Kelly
42​
180​
23.3%​
2​
1998​
Rob Blake
401​
540​
74.3%​
1​
2000​
Rob Blake
196​
580​
33.8%​
3​
2001​
Rob Blake
176​
620​
28.4%​
4​
2002​
Rob Blake
321​
620​
51.8%​
3​
2003​
Rob Blake
62​
620​
10.0%​
5​
2004​
Rob Blake
124​
1040​
11.9%​
8​
1981​
Rod Langway
38​
315​
12.1%​
5​
1982​
Rod Langway
24​
315​
7.6%​
9​
1983​
Rod Langway
180​
315​
57.1%​
1​
1984​
Rod Langway
227​
310​
73.2%​
1​
1985​
Rod Langway
89​
315​
28.3%​
3​
1986​
Rod Langway
19​
300​
6.3%​
5​
2015​
Roman Josi
222​
1570​
14.1%​
5​
2016​
Roman Josi
120​
1500​
8.0%​
5​
2018​
Roman Josi
86​
1640​
5.2%​
7​
2020​
Roman Josi
1499​
1700​
88.2%​
1​
2022​
Roman Josi
1606​
1950​
82.4%​
2​
1958​
Ron Stewart
13​
180​
7.2%​
4​
2013​
Ryan Suter
1230​
1780​
69.1%​
2​
2014​
Ryan Suter
351​
1370​
25.6%​
4​
2017​
Ryan Suter
175​
1670​
10.5%​
5​
1997​
Sandis Ozolinsh
176​
540​
32.6%​
3​
1998​
Scott Niedermayer
58​
540​
10.7%​
5​
2004​
Scott Niedermayer
872​
1040​
83.8%​
1​
2006​
Scott Niedermayer
817​
1290​
63.3%​
2​
2007​
Scott Niedermayer
1024​
1430​
71.6%​
2​
1988​
Scott Stevens
124​
315​
39.4%​
2​
1992​
Scott Stevens
44​
345​
12.8%​
4​
1994​
Scott Stevens
195​
270​
72.2%​
2​
1997​
Scott Stevens
171​
540​
31.7%​
5​
1998​
Scott Stevens
84​
540​
15.6%​
4​
1999​
Scott Stevens
55​
560​
9.8%​
6​
2001​
Scott Stevens
203​
620​
32.7%​
3​
1973​
Serge Savard
22​
240​
9.2%​
6​
1975​
Serge Savard
14​
270​
5.2%​
5​
1976​
Serge Savard
23​
270​
8.5%​
5​
1977​
Serge Savard
29​
270​
10.7%​
5​
1979​
Serge Savard
41​
255​
16.1%​
4​
2000​
Sergei Gonchar
78​
580​
13.4%​
5​
2001​
Sergei Gonchar
94​
620​
15.2%​
6​
2002​
Sergei Gonchar
147​
620​
23.7%​
4​
2003​
Sergei Gonchar
131​
620​
21.1%​
4​
2004​
Sergei Gonchar
55​
1040​
5.3%​
9​
2007​
Sergei Gonchar
85​
1430​
5.9%​
7​
2008​
Sergei Gonchar
370​
1340​
27.6%​
4​
1994​
Sergei Zubov
15​
270​
5.6%​
4​
2003​
Sergei Zubov
37​
620​
6.0%​
8​
2006​
Sergei Zubov
464​
1290​
36.0%​
3​
2018​
Seth Jones
406​
1640​
24.8%​
4​
2021​
Shea Theodore
109​
1000​
10.9%​
6​
2009​
Shea Weber
186​
1330​
14.0%​
4​
2010​
Shea Weber
96​
1330​
7.2%​
7​
2011​
Shea Weber
727​
1270​
57.2%​
2​
2012​
Shea Weber
1057​
1490​
70.9%​
2​
2014​
Shea Weber
638​
1370​
46.6%​
3​
2015​
Shea Weber
614​
1570​
39.1%​
4​
2017​
Shea Weber
100​
1670​
6.0%​
6​
1989​
Steve Duchesne
30​
315​
9.5%​
5​
1965​
Ted Green
17​
180​
9.4%​
7​
1968​
Ted Green
6​
120​
5.0%​
9​
1969​
Ted Green
27​
180​
15.0%​
3​
1969​
Ted Harris
22​
180​
12.2%​
4​
2002​
Teppo Numminen
44​
620​
7.1%​
7​
1964​
Terry Harper
13​
180​
7.2%​
5​
1954​
Tim Horton
26​
180​
14.4%​
4​
1961​
Tim Horton
9​
180​
5.0%​
6​
1962​
Tim Horton
15​
180​
8.3%​
5​
1963​
Tim Horton
37​
180​
20.6%​
3​
1964​
Tim Horton
70​
180​
38.9%​
2​
1965​
Tim Horton
27​
180​
15.0%​
4​
1967​
Tim Horton
34​
180​
18.9%​
4​
1968​
Tim Horton
30​
120​
25.0%​
3​
1969​
Tim Horton
48​
180​
26.7%​
2​
1956​
Tom Johnson
21​
180​
11.7%​
4​
1959​
Tom Johnson
92​
180​
51.1%​
1​
1960​
Tom Johnson
32​
180​
17.8%​
5​
2017​
Victor Hedman
728​
1670​
43.6%​
3​
2018​
Victor Hedman
1385​
1640​
84.5%​
1​
2019​
Victor Hedman
585​
1710​
34.2%​
3​
2020​
Victor Hedman
820​
1700​
48.2%​
3​
2021​
Victor Hedman
433​
1000​
43.3%​
3​
2022​
Victor Hedman
940​
1950​
48.2%​
3​
1996​
Vladimir Konstantinov
131​
540​
24.3%​
4​
1997​
Vladimir Konstantinov
178​
540​
33.0%​
2​
2006​
Wade Redden
115​
1290​
8.9%​
5​
2003​
Zdeno Chara
55​
620​
8.9%​
7​
2004​
Zdeno Chara
563​
1040​
54.1%​
2​
2006​
Zdeno Chara
430​
1290​
33.3%​
4​
2008​
Zdeno Chara
486​
1340​
36.3%​
3​
2009​
Zdeno Chara
1034​
1330​
77.7%​
1​
2010​
Zdeno Chara
88​
1330​
6.6%​
8​
2011​
Zdeno Chara
688​
1270​
54.2%​
3​
2012​
Zdeno Chara
950​
1490​
63.8%​
3​
2013​
Zdeno Chara
289​
1780​
16.2%​
5​
2014​
Zdeno Chara
667​
1370​
48.7%​
2​

Note that I'm only showing years where a defenseman earned at least 5.0% percent of the maximum possible votes. This weeds out years where a player only receives a few throwaway votes.

A note on ties - I'm treating players as having the same rank as long as they have the same number of voting points. In reality, the NHL uses the number of first-place votes (then second-place, etc) as the tie-breaker. I only have data regarding the total number of votes. It would be extremely time-consuming to input all the detailed results, so I'm not going to do that. I'm presenting the data as is, with this note, to be consistent and transparent about what I've done.
 
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Jan 16, 2005
9,491
15,799
All-time Norris trophy rankings - 5% threshold

PLAYER1st2nd3rd4th5th6th7th8th9th10thTOTAL
Ray Bourque
5​
6​
4​
4​
3​
22​
Nicklas Lidstrom
7​
3​
1​
1​
1​
3​
16​
Doug Harvey
7​
1​
1​
1​
10​
Pierre Pilote
3​
3​
2​
2​
10​
Zdeno Chara
1​
2​
3​
1​
1​
1​
1​
10​
Bobby Orr
8​
1​
9​
Paul Coffey
3​
2​
1​
1​
2​
9​
Tim Horton
2​
2​
3​
1​
1​
9​
Chris Chelios
3​
2​
1​
1​
1​
8​
Denis Potvin
3​
2​
1​
1​
1​
8​
Chris Pronger
1​
3​
1​
2​
1​
8​
Bill Gadsby
3​
3​
1​
1​
8​
Larry Robinson
2​
1​
3​
1​
7​
Al MacInnis
1​
3​
2​
1​
7​
Jacques Laperriere
1​
1​
2​
2​
1​
7​
Brad Park
6​
1​
7​
Scott Stevens
2​
1​
2​
1​
1​
7​
Shea Weber
2​
1​
2​
1​
1​
7​
Sergei Gonchar
3​
1​
1​
1​
1​
7​
Erik Karlsson
3​
2​
1​
6​
Brian Leetch
2​
1​
1​
1​
1​
6​
Rod Langway
2​
1​
2​
1​
6​
Duncan Keith
2​
1​
2​
1​
6​
Victor Hedman
1​
5​
6​
Rob Blake
1​
2​
1​
1​
1​
6​
Borje Salming
2​
2​
2​
6​
Larry Murphy
2​
1​
1​
1​
1​
6​
Kris Letang
1​
1​
2​
1​
1​
6​
Drew Doughty
1​
2​
1​
1​
5​
Roman Josi
1​
1​
2​
1​
5​
Harry Howell
1​
1​
1​
2​
5​
Marcel Pronovost
1​
2​
1​
1​
5​
Carl Brewer
1​
1​
1​
2​
5​
Fern Flaman
3​
2​
5​
Serge Savard
1​
3​
1​
5​
Red Kelly
1​
2​
1​
4​
Scott Niedermayer
1​
2​
1​
4​
Doug Wilson
1​
1​
2​
4​
Mark Howe
3​
1​
4​
Guy Lapointe
1​
1​
2​
4​
JC Tremblay
1​
1​
1​
1​
4​
Allan Stanley
1​
1​
1​
1​
4​
Bill White
3​
1​
4​
Phil Housley
1​
2​
1​
4​
Brent Burns
1​
1​
1​
3​
Cale Makar
1​
1​
1​
3​
Adam Fox
1​
1​
1​
3​
PK Subban
1​
2​
3​
Tom Johnson
1​
1​
1​
3​
Mike Green
2​
1​
3​
Ryan Suter
1​
1​
1​
3​
John Carlson
1​
1​
1​
3​
Pat Stapleton
1​
2​
3​
Sergei Zubov
1​
1​
1​
3​
Ted Green
1​
1​
1​
3​
Alex Pietrangelo
2​
1​
3​
Dan Boyle
1​
1​
1​
3​
Mark Giordano
1​
1​
2​
Vladimir Konstantinov
1​
1​
2​
Dion Phaneuf
1​
1​
2​
Elmer Vasko
1​
1​
2​
Derian Hatcher
1​
1​
2​
Jean-Guy Talbot
1​
1​
2​
Bob Goldham
1​
1​
2​
Eric Desjardins
1​
1​
2​
Jim Neilson
1​
1​
2​
Charlie McAvoy
1​
1​
2​
Brad McCrimmon
1​
1​
2​
Dougie Hamilton
1​
1​
2​
Doug Mohns
2​
2​
Al Arbour
1​
1​
2​
Doug Barkley
1​
1​
2​
Kevin Lowe
1​
1​
2​
Andrei Markov
2​
2​
Brian Engblom
2​
2​
Ed Jovanovski
2​
2​
Mathieu Schneider
1​
1​
2​
Bob Baun
1​
1​
2​
Randy Carlyle
1​
1​
Gary Suter
1​
1​
Jim Schoenfeld
1​
1​
Sandis Ozolinsh
1​
1​
Bryan McCabe
1​
1​
Craig Hartsburg
1​
1​
Francois Beauchemin
1​
1​
Kevin Hatcher
1​
1​
Lubomir Visnovsky
1​
1​
Ron Stewart
1​
1​
Ted Harris
1​
1​
Seth Jones
1​
1​
Hampus Lindholm
1​
1​
Adrian Aucoin
1​
1​
Brian Campbell
1​
1​
Hugh Bolton
1​
1​
Jack Evans
1​
1​
Keith Yandle
1​
1​
Kimmo Timonen
1​
1​
Leo Boivin
1​
1​
Steve Duchesne
1​
1​
Terry Harper
1​
1​
Wade Redden
1​
1​
Morgan Reilly
1​
1​
Jaccob Slavin
1​
1​
Josh Morrissey
1​
1​
Pete Goegan
1​
1​
John Klingberg
1​
1​
Shea Theodore
1​
1​
Barry Beck
1​
1​
Darryl Sydor
1​
1​
Teppo Numminen
1​
1​
Bob Armstrong
1​
1​
Darnell Nurse
1​
1​
Miro Heiskanen
1​
1​
Mike McMahon
1​
1​
Mackenzie Weegar
1​
1​
Rasmus Dahlin
1​
1​
Fredrik Olausson
1​
1​
Quinn Hughes
1​
1​
Jakob Chychrun
1​
1​

This table shows the number of times each player finished 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. in Norris voting. Once again I'm cutting off the data once we get to players with less than a 5.0% vote share. This means I'm posting the top four for almost every year, the top six in about half the years, and down to as low as 10th place on rare occasions.

Note that many of these players (most notably Kelly, Harvey and Gadsby) played several years before the inception of the Norris trophy. Kelly is particularly disadvantaged here, as he earned a spot on the year-end first all-star team each of the three years before the Norris was created, generally by wide margins.

Ray Bourque is a freak of nature. He played 22 seasons and never placed less than 7th in Norris voting once. He was 4th or higher 19 times. The only players who can rival Bourque's consistently high level of play are Gretzky and Howe. By this metric, Bourque singlehandedly almost matches the results of Chelios, Potvin and Pronger!

This table shows how much of an aberration Randy Carlyle's Norris trophy truly was. Not only did he win a very questionable award, he was never even close to contending for the Norris trophy again. Even some of the weaker winners (Tom Johnson, Harry Howell, Doug Wilson) were at least contenders in a few other years.

Many of us know that Brad Park was runner-up for the Norris six times (four times to Orr, twice to Potvin). The defensemen with the most "significant" seasons (as I've defined them) who didn't win the Norris are Tim Horton and Bill Gadsby. Somewhat surprisingly, Sergei Gonchar is in the top five.

Some people say that Sergei Zubov deserves a spot in the Hall of Fame. He was great in the playoffs but his voting record is comparable to Pat Stapleton and Dan Boyle. Has he been underrated by the Norris voters? Or is the position that he deserves a spot in the HOF historical revisionism?

The biggest surprise is seeing Chara ranked T-3rd on this list (5th if you're looking at tiebreakers). If you believe he played in a somewhat weaker era for high-end defensive talent (as I do), this result should be discounted somewhat, but he`s still in extremely impressive territory. The lingering questions as to whether he's a Hall of Fame player are, at this point, laughable.
 
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Jan 16, 2005
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15,799
All-time Norris trophy shares

Ray Bourque
900.9​
Nicklas Lidstrom
896.8​
Bobby Orr
760.8​
Doug Harvey
626.7​
Chris Chelios
415.8​
Zdeno Chara
400.8​
Paul Coffey
393.9​
Erik Karlsson
365.9​
Denis Potvin
364.5​
Pierre Pilote
345.3​
Al MacInnis
345.2​
Victor Hedman
309.4​
Chris Pronger
288.5​
Drew Doughty
287.9​
Brian Leetch
284.2​
Larry Robinson
276.3​
Brad Park
265.8​
Shea Weber
245.9​
Scott Niedermayer
237.5​
Scott Stevens
231.0​
Bill Gadsby
227.8​
Duncan Keith
217.2​
Rob Blake
211.3​
Roman Josi
204.3​
Borje Salming
193.4​
Red Kelly
192.2​
Rod Langway
186.6​
Tim Horton
181.4​
Cale Makar
178.7​
Brent Burns
175.7​
Mark Howe
173.2​
PK Subban
157.4​
Jacques Laperriere
148.6​
Adam Fox
144.4​
Mike Green
142.9​
John Carlson
129.7​
Kris Letang
127.9​
Marcel Pronovost
118.9​
Ryan Suter
117.2​
Mark Giordano
116.0​
Sergei Gonchar
113.2​
Harry Howell
108.1​
Doug Wilson
107.4​
Carl Brewer
100.6​
Tom Johnson
88.9​
Larry Murphy
87.2​
Alex Pietrangelo
82.7​
Guy Lapointe
78.1​
JC Tremblay
77.4​
Fern Flaman
70.0​
Allan Stanley
68.3​
Sergei Zubov
64.9​
Bill White
59.2​
Vladimir Konstantinov
57.2​
Dion Phaneuf
56.5​
Phil Housley
52.8​
Serge Savard
51.6​
Lubomir Visnovsky
49.0​
Pat Stapleton
48.2​
Eric Desjardins
45.7​
Dougie Hamilton
41.9​
Randy Carlyle
40.3​
Dan Boyle
38.9​
Elmer Vasko
36.7​
Jim Neilson
34.5​
Derian Hatcher
34.4​
Gary Suter
34.2​
Doug Mohns
33.9​
Sandis Ozolinsh
33.3​
Jim Schoenfeld
33.1​
Jean-Guy Talbot
32.8​
Brian Campbell
32.2​
Charlie McAvoy
31.7​
Ted Green
31.7​
Morgan Reilly
30.6​
Brad McCrimmon
29.8​
Seth Jones
27.6​
Keith Yandle
26.4​
Doug Barkley
25.0​
Hampus Lindholm
24.8​
Mathieu Schneider
23.3​
Bryan McCabe
21.7​
Bob Goldham
20.6​
Adrian Aucoin
20.5​
Andrei Markov
20.4​
Bob Baun
19.8​
Kevin Lowe
19.4​
Ed Jovanovski
19.3​
Barry Beck
18.3​
Wade Redden
18.3​
Craig Hartsburg
17.5​
Terry Harper
17.5​
Josh Morrissey
17.2​
Brian Engblom
16.5​
Francois Beauchemin
16.4​
Leo Boivin
16.1​
Al Arbour
16.1​
Ted Harris
14.6​
Miro Heiskanen
14.5​
John Klingberg
14.0​

See description of Norris trophy shares in the first post. I'm not filtering the data (so players might gain a few points in years where they have few throwaway votes).

Note that many of these players (most notably Kelly, Harvey and Gadsby) played several years before the inception of the Norris trophy. Kelly is particularly disadvantaged here, as he earned a spot on the year-end first all-star team each of the three years before the Norris was created, generally by wide margins.

Quality of competition is a major factor here. Poor Brad Park peaked at the same time as Orr and Potvin. Both of them, though especially Orr, dominated the Norris trophy voting, and left few votes available for everybody else. Considering the context, Park's 17th place finish is very impressive.

Note that a single big season can really skew the numbers. Doug Wilson ranks ahead of Murphy, Lapointe, Savard, etc., and that feels wrong.
 
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Data validation

Note that I've been accumulating the data for years from a variety of sources - copies of old newspapers available online, magazines, and this website. I can't guarantee complete accuracy of the data (either because I made a typo when inputting it, or the source may have contained wrong information for whatever reason). I've done a fair amount of spot-checking and correct any errors on the rare occasions when I find them, but once again, let me know if you see any mistakes.

It's actually fairly easy to validate the completeness of the data. For example, in 1954, there were 36 voters, each awarding 5+3+1 = 9 voting points. Thus, there were 36 * 9 = 324 points available. Adding up the individual results for each player (162 for Kelly, 57 for Harvey, all the way down to 1 each for Pronovost and a few others), we get 324 points. This tells me that the data is 100% complete. (Again, there could still be inaccuracies - such as by switching the votes for Gadsby and Horton - but at least this tells me I'm not missing any data).

Here are the results:
1954324324
100.0%​
1955324324
100.0%​
1956324324
100.0%​
1957321324
99.1%​
1958324324
100.0%​
1959324324
100.0%​
1960324324
100.0%​
1961320324
98.8%​
1962324324
100.0%​
1963324324
100.0%​
1964324324
100.0%​
1965324324
100.0%​
1966324324
100.0%​
1967324324
100.0%​
1968216216
100.0%​
1969324324
100.0%​
1970319324
98.5%​
1971378378
100.0%​
1972378378
100.0%​
1973432432
100.0%​
1974432432
100.0%​
1975486486
100.0%​
1976486486
100.0%​
1977462486
95.1%​
1978486486
100.0%​
1979459459
100.0%​
1980566567
99.8%​
1981567567
100.0%​
1982567567
100.0%​
1983567567
100.0%​
1984558558
100.0%​
1985567567
100.0%​
1986540540
100.0%​
1987486486
100.0%​
1988567567
100.0%​
1989567567
100.0%​
1990567567
100.0%​
1991594594
100.0%​
1992621621
100.0%​
1993450450
100.0%​
1994486486
100.0%​
1995135135
100.0%​
19961,4041,404
100.0%​
19971,4041,404
100.0%​
19981,4041,404
100.0%​
19991,4551,456
99.9%​
20001,5081,508
100.0%​
20011,6121,612
100.0%​
20021,5901,612
98.6%​
20031,6121,612
100.0%​
20042,7042,704
100.0%​
20063,3543,354
100.0%​
20073,7113,718
99.8%​
20083,4793,484
99.9%​
20093,4583,458
100.0%​
20103,4543,458
99.9%​
20113,3023,302
100.0%​
20123,8743,874
100.0%​
20134,6274,628
100.0%​
20143,5623,562
100.0%​
20154,0824,082
100.0%​
20163,9003,900
100.0%​
20174,3424,342
100.0%​
20184,2644,264
100.0%​
20194,4464,446
100.0%​
20204,4204,420
100.0%​
20212,6002,600
100.0%​
20225,0705,070
100.0%​
20235,0965,096100.0%

Over the past 69 years, I'm at less than 99.0% completeness in just four seasons: 1961 (98.8%), 1970 (98.5%), 1977 (95.1%) and 2002 (98.7%). Let me know if you know where I can find the complete results for these years, but at this point it won't materially impact anything.

A simple (unweighted) average shows that I have 99.8% complete data. For this reason I'm highly confident in the integrity of the data that I've presented.
 
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Unanimous Norris trophy wins

Just two unanimous winners in 62 years of voting - Bobby Orr in 1970 and Ray Bourque in 1990.

Largest margins of victory over second place

1971Bobby Orr99.0%Brad Park27.1%71.9%
1969Bobby Orr97.8%Tim Horton26.7%71.1%
1973Bobby Orr93.3%Guy Lapointe24.2%69.2%
1970Bobby Orr100.0%Brad Park32.2%67.8%
1957Doug Harvey88.3%Red Kelly23.3%65.0%

So, I hear that Bobby Orr was a pretty good defenseman. He has five of the top seven largest margins of victory.

Smallest margins of victory over second place

2011​
Nicklas Lidstrom
58.0%​
Shea Weber
57.2%​
0.7%​
2012​
Erik Karlsson
71.7%​
Shea Weber
70.9%​
0.8%​
1996​
Chris Chelios
75.6%​
Ray Bourque
74.6%​
0.9%​
2022​
Cale Makar
83.6%​
Roman Josi
82.4%​
1.3%​
1994​
Ray Bourque
73.7%​
Scott Stevens
72.2%​
1.5%​

Poor Shea Weber. Not only was he runner-up twice, his two losses were the two narrowest losses in the history of the trophy (and they were in consecutive years).
 
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It blows my mind everytime i see stats like this...

Most great have 7-10 seasons of greatness...

And Lidström doubles that with 16....

And Bourque has 3 times the peak of a Leetch, Park or Pronger with 22.
 

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This entire thread has been updated for 2016.

Some of today's best blueliners are continuing to climb the ranks. Shea Weber is 15th in Norris trophy shares, Drew Doughty is 19th, Erik Karlsson is 21st, and Duncan Keith is 22nd.
 

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This entire thread has been updated for 2017. Some commentary:

Brent Burns won the Norris trophy. He now has two seasons in the top three in voting (2016 and 2017) and ranks 30th all-time in voting shares.

Erik Karlsson was runner-up. He now has five "significant" seasons (earning at least 5% of the maximum number of votes). He ranks 13th all-time in voting shares (a fraction of a point behind Leetch). Remarkable for a 26-year-old.

Victor Hedman, who placed third, has his first "significant" season.

Duncan Keith quietly placed fourth in Norris voting. He now has six "significant" seasons, ranking him on par with Salming and Leetch. He didn't earn a lot of votes this year, but still enough to vault him into 20th place in terms of all-time voting shares.

Ryan Suter finished fifth. He earned his third "significant" season.

Shea Weber is the sixth and final defenseman who earned more than the threshold number of votes. He now has a remarkable seven "significant" seasons. His Norris voting record is nearly identical to Scott Stevens' (though their playoff resumes, obviously, are vastly different). He ranks 16th all-time in voting shares - impressive for someone who never won the Norris.
 

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Rather than going into each thread individually, I'm just going to use this one to thank you for your work. I really love looking at all of these.
 
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All-time Norris trophy shares

See description of Norris trophy shares in the first post. I`m not filtering the data (so players might gain a few points in years where they have few throwaway votes).

Player | Shares
Ray Bourque | 901
Nicklas Lidstrom | 897
Bobby Orr | 761
Doug Harvey | 627
Chris Chelios | 416
Zdeno Chara | 400
Paul Coffey | 394
Denis Potvin | 364
Pierre Pilote | 345
Al MacInnis | 345
Chris Pronger | 289
Brian Leetch | 284
Erik Karlsson | 284
Larry Robinson | 276
Brad Park | 266
Shea Weber | 246
Scott Niedermayer | 238
Scott Stevens | 231
Bill Gadsby | 228
Duncan Keith | 217
Drew Doughty | 217
Rob Blake | 211
Borje Salming | 193
Red Kelly | 192
Rod Langway | 187
Tim Horton | 181
Mark Howe | 173
Jacques Laperriere | 149
Mike Green | 143
Brent Burns | 129
PK Subban | 123
Marcel Pronovost | 119
Ryan Suter | 116
Sergei Gonchar | 113
Kris Letang | 110
Harry Howell | 108
Doug Wilson | 107
Carl Brewer | 101
Tom Johnson | 89
Larry Murphy | 87
Guy Lapointe | 78
JC Tremblay | 77
Fern Flaman | 70
Allan Stanley | 68
Sergei Zubov | 65
Bill White | 59
Vladimir Konstantinov | 57
Dion Phaneuf | 57
Phil Housley | 53
Serge Savard | 52
Victor Hedman | 51
Alex Pietrangelo | 50
Lubomir Visnovsky | 49
Pat Stapleton | 48
Eric Desjardins | 46
Randy Carlyle | 40
Dan Boyle | 39
Elmer Vasko | 37
Jim Neilson | 35
Derian Hatcher | 34
Gary Suter | 34
Doug Mohns | 34
Sandis Ozolinsh | 33
Jim Schoenfeld | 33
Jean-Guy Talbot | 33
Brian Campbell | 32
Ted Green | 32
Brad McCrimmon | 30
Keith Yandle | 26
Doug Barkley | 25
Mathieu Schneider | 23
Roman Josi | 23
Bryan McCabe | 22
Bob Goldham | 21
Adrian Aucoin | 20
Andrei Markov | 20
Bob Baun | 20
Kevin Lowe | 19
Ed Jovanovski | 19
Barry Beck | 18
Wade Redden | 18
Craig Hartsburg | 18
Terry Harper | 17
Mark Giordano | 17
Brian Engblom | 17
Francois Beauchemin | 16
Leo Boivin | 16
Al Arbour | 16
Ted Harris | 15
Teppo Numminen | 13
Steve Duchesne | 12
Kimmo Timonen | 11
Kevin Hatcher | 11
Brian Rafalski | 11
Bob Armstrong | 11
Darryl Sydor | 10
Gary Bergman | 9
Jack Evans | 9
Fredrik Olausson | 9
Keith Magnuson | 8

Note that many of these players (most notably Kelly, Harvey and Gadsby) played several years before the inception of the Norris trophy. Kelly is particularly disadvantaged here, as he earned a spot on the year-end first all-star team each of the three years before the Norris was created, generally by wide margins.

Quality of competition is a major factor here. Poor Brad Park peaked at the same time as Orr and Potvin. Both of them, though especially Orr, dominated the Norris trophy voting, and left few votes available for everybody else. Considering the context, Park's 15th place finish is very impressive.

Note that a single big season can really skew the numbers. Doug Wilson ranks ahead of Murphy, Lapointe, Savard, etc., and that feels wrong.

Great stuff!

Don't usually see Orr compared to other defensemen. These numbers show why.

Doug Wilson ranked ahead of Larry Murphy doesn't seem wrong to me.

Just ahead of Serge Savard: Phil Housley and Dion Phaneuf.

Surprised Mark Howe didn't rank higher.
 

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Rather than going into each thread individually, I'm just going to use this one to thank you for your work. I really love looking at all of these.

Thanks! I appreciate the comment.

Great stuff!

Don't usually see Orr compared to other defensemen. These numbers show why.

Doug Wilson ranked ahead of Larry Murphy doesn't seem wrong to me.

Just ahead of Serge Savard: Phil Housley and Dion Phaneuf.

Surprised Mark Howe didn't rank higher.

Yes, it definitely feels wrong to see Housley and Phaneuf ahead of Savard. The standard disclaimer - this stuff doesn't take the playoffs into account. Voters also probably overrate offense (because it's easy to measure) and underrate defense.

Howe was runner-up to some decisive winners (Coffey in 1986 and Borque in 1987) which meant there were fewer votes for him to earn.
 

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chelios 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4
chara 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
coffey 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 5, 5

Coffey had a few seasons where he technically finished top five, but it was with a minimal number of votes.

For example, in 1987 Coffey was 5th in Norris voting - but only got 10 voting points out of a possible 270. In 1991, he was again 5th - with 8 points out of 330.

So Coffey had several more years than Chelios and Chara where he earned a few fringe votes (maybe due to reputation, maybe because offense is easier to measure than defense). Regardless, that gives him more "top fives" if you're not filtering the data, but (by definition) these types of seasons count very little towards the amount of total votes earned over his career.
 

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This thread has been updated after the data migration on HFBoards. Let me know if you see any errors/problems.
 

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I am not surprised to see Ted Green on it three times, but Doug Barkley twice surprises me. Huh.

BUT...

Hugh Bolton?

Wait, he got a mere 9 votes out of hundreds, certainly way less than 5% of the "threshhold" you set Hockey Outsider. Not only is the bar you set ridiculously/insignificantly low, but Hugh Bolton didn't even meet it but is listed as if he had!

Here's Hugh. Even he looks puzzled.

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In 1955, there were 180 votes up for grabs in the Norris trophy race, and Bolton got 9 of them - exactly 5%.

Were you looking at the data from hockey-reference.com? Their calculation of the vote percentage for 1955 (and possibly other years - I haven't checked) is definitely incorrect. There were 180 votes up for grabs and Red Kelly got 147 of them. So his voting share should be 82% (which is what I have listed here) - not 49%, which is what they have on their website. Similarly, the 5% I calculated for Bolton is correct - the 3% they calculated is wrong.

The mistake hockey-reference.com made is they're dividing each player's votes by the total number of votes on record. That's a faulty approach, since there are always more total votes than are needed for a unanimous trophy (due to all of the second and third-place votes). For example, in 1970, 324 voting points were awarded in total. But Bobby Orr won the trophy unanimously with 180 points (the remaining points are attributable to second and third-place votes).

It's debatable if 5% is too low a threshold (maybe 10% is better), but it's been applied consistently for all defensemen.
 

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This entire thread has been updated for 2018. Some commentary:

Victor Hedman won the Norris. He now has two "significant" seasons (1st this year, 3rd last year).

Drew Doughty was the runner-up. He's now had five "significant" seasons in the last eight years. He's finished 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd and 6th. Doughty now ranks 12th place all-time in Norris trophy shares, passing Erik Karlsson, Brian Leetch and Larry Robinson.

PK Subban finished third. This is his third "significant" season. He's finished 1st, 3rd and 3rd.

Seth Jones (4th), John Carlson (5th) and John Klingberg (6th). It was the first "significant" season for each of them.
 
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This entire thread has been updated for 2019. Some commentary:

Mark Giordano won the Norris trophy with the 4th highest vote share in the history of the award (98.8%). The only players who won the award more decisively were Bobby Orr (1970 and 1971) and Ray Bourque (1990). Giordano deserved to win the trophy, but I don't think we witnessed an all-time great season, so I was surprised by his very high share of the vote. This is his second "significant" season (which I've defined as being at least 5.0% of the vote share); in addition to winning the trophy, he finished 6th.

Brent Burns has had a pretty good run. He's finished 1st, 2nd and 3rd in Norris voting (all over the past four seasons).

Victor Hedman, last year's winner, has also finished in the top three, three times (all consecutive) - 1st, 3rd and 3rd.

John Carlson had his second significant season - he's finished 4th and 5th in voting.

Morgan Reillly received the first Norris trophy votes of his career, finishing 5th.

Kris Letang quietly had his 5th significant season. He's only been an official finalist once, but has finished 3rd, 4th, 6th, 6th and 8th.
 
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This entire thread has been updated for 2020. Some commentary:
  • Roman Josi won the Norris trophy. He's now finished 1st, 5th, 5th, and 7th.
  • John Carlson was runner-up. He's now finished 2nd, 4th and 5th in Norris voting over the past three years.
  • Victor Hedman finished third. He's now finished 3rd for the Norris in three of the past four years (and also won the award in 2018). It also looks like he's a Conn Smythe candidate. Hedman's four seasons as a Norris finalist puts him on par with Pronger, Horton, Salming and Karlsson; and ahead of Stevens, Leetch, Niedermayer, Langway, Howe and Blake.
  • Alex Pietrangelo finished fourth. He's now finished 4th, 4th and 5th.
  • Jaccob Slavin finished fifth. He earned a trivial number of votes in each of the past three years, but made a big jump this season.
I noticed that 2019's winner, Mark Giordano, didn't receive a single vote this year. How often has the Norris winner failed to earn a single vote in the next season? As far as I can call, this has happened four times - Bobby Orr 1975, Brian Leetch 1992, Brian Leetch 1997, and now Mark Giordano 2020. In Orr's case, injuries limited him to just ten games in 1976. Leetch missed more than half of the 1993 season, and in 1998 the Rangers missed the playoffs and his plus/minus plummeted. Giordano missed ten games and his offense plummeted.
 

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This entire thread has been updated for 2021. As always, let me know if you see any errors. A quick summary of this year's results:
  • Adam Fox won the Norris trophy. He's one of only two defensemen in NHL history (the other being Bobby Orr) to win the award in his sophomore season. As I noted in another thread, Fox is the only defenseman in NHL history to win the Norris while on a team that didn't qualify for the playoffs. This was his first season getting any significant Norris consideration (which I've always defined as at least 5% of the votes).
  • Cale Makar, also a sophomore, was runner-up. It was his first "significant" Norris trophy finish.
  • Victor Hedman finished third. He's now has one win and four 3rd place finishes. He's one of only a small handful of defensemen to be a Norris finalist five years in a row.
  • Kris Letang finished 9th. He's now finished 3rd, 4th, 6th, 6th, 8th and 9th.
  • Otherwise is was a very green crop of Norris finalists. The following defensemen had their first significant Norris trophy finishes - Dougie Hamilton (4th), Charlie McAvoy (5th), Shea Theodore (6th), Darnell Nurse (7th), Mackenzie Weegar (8th), and Jakob Chychrun (10th).
It was a fractured field. You'd have to go back to 1999 to find another season where ten defensemen each got at least 5% of the votes.
 
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This entire thread has been updated for 2022. As always, let me know if you see any errors. A quick summary of this year's results:

Cale Makar won the Norris trophy (and he was runner-up last year - I define any seasons where a player gets at least 5% of the votes as "significant"). This was the 4th closest vote in the history of the trophy. I posted more details in another thread. More voters ranked Josi over Makar, but those who ranked Makar higher had him ahead by a larger margin.

Roman Josi was runner-up. This was his fifth "significant" season. In addition to winning the Norris trophy in 2020, he also finished 2nd, 5th, 5th, and 7th. Josi earned the highest vote share in history (82.4%) for a player who didn't win the Norris.

Victor Hedman finished third. This was his sixth "significant" season. In addition to winning the Norris trophy in 2018, he placed 3rd five times. Hedman is now one of only 12 defensemen in the entire history of the Norris trophy to be a finalist six times. He's also one of only five defensemen (Orr, Bourque, Lidstrom and Pilote) to be a finalist six consecutive seasons.

Charlie McAvoy finished 4th. It was his second "significant" season (he also finished 5th last year).

Adam Fox finished 5th. It was his second "significant" season (he won the Norris last year).
 

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This entire thread has been updated for 2023. As always, let me know if you see any errors. A quick summary of this year's results:

Erik Karlsson won the Norris trophy for the third time. He's also finished runner-up twice, and has a 7th place finish. With five years finishing in the top two, he ties some big names - Potvin, Chelios and Coffey. Those four are tied for 7th all-time (behind only Bourque, Lidstrom, Orr, Harvey, Park, and Pilote).

Adam Fox was runner-up. It was his third consecutive significant finish in a row (he won in 2021 and placed 5th last year).

Cale Makar, despite only playing in 60 games, finished 3rd. It was also his third consecutive significant finish in a row (he was runner-up in 2021 and won the trophy last year).

Dougie Hamilton finished 6th. This was his second significant finish (he also finished 4th in 2021).

Five defensemen had their first significant finishes - Hampus Lindholm (4th), Josh Morrissey (5th), Miro Heiskanen (7th), Rasmus Dahlin (8th) and Quinn Hughes (9th).
 

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