OT: Non-Hockey Sports Thread XII - Heeeeeeressss JJ! (Percy Harvin Edition)

[Digitalbooya]

What's the usual punishment for tampering?

Minnesota loses two 1st round picks

 

[MuckOG]

What's the usual punishment for tampering?

Punishment can vary depending on the severity. Miami had to forfeit a 1st and 4th round picks when they were caught trying to lure Brady from the Pats

 

[thestonedkoala]

Yeah. That’s why they’re retooling.
I figured that was pretty obvious but I guess not.

It's a competitive retooling, but they still have holes, especially at the defensive tackle position and the defensive ends are question marks.

 

[MuckOG]

It's a competitive retooling, but they still have holes, especially at the defensive tackle position and the defensive ends are question marks.

They seem focused on addressing those areas in the first few days of free agency so far..

 

[57special]

Cool, so we get ATL's 1st rounder?

 

[MuckOG]

Cool, so we get ATL's 1st rounder?

Wouldn't that be awesome? That would for sure give us the ammo needed to move up towards the top of the draft.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Cool, so we get ATL's 1st rounder?

For ATL tampering? No, the vikings get nothing. Atlanta might lose a mid round pick.

 

[TaLoN]

Cool, so we get ATL's 1st rounder?

The Patriots didn't get those Dolphins' picks. They just became non-existent.

 

[57special]

For ATL tampering? No, the vikings get nothing. Atlanta might lose a mid round pick.

The Patriots didn't get those Dolphins' picks. They just became non-existent.

Rats.

 

[MuckOG]

 

[Minnewildsota]

Interesting. More draft capital to move up?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Nice.

 

[Sad People]

Good trade. #11 and #23 are enough to get us into the top 4. Hopefully we can sneak into #3.

 

[Sad People]

I’d be great if we could get our QBotF and be able to keep next years first.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Good trade. #11 and #23 are enough to get us into the top 4. Hopefully we can sneak into #3.

Last year's Houston trade:

#12 + #33 + 2024 1st + 2024 3rd to move up from #12 to #3.

#12 ~ #11
#23 ~ 2024 1st

Still need to add ~#33 pick worth of value.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Consolidating picks is interesting. It’s basically move up to the top 5 or bust at this point.

 

[Sad People]

Last year's Houston trade:

#12 + #33 + 2024 1st + 2024 3rd to move up from #12 to #3.

#12 ~ #11
#23 ~ 2024 1st

Still need to add ~#33 pick worth of value.

Hopefully we can without giving up next years first. Could be a good piece to regain some draft capital or get a good player. (Hopefully)

 

[Digitalbooya]

Hopefully we can without giving up next years first. Could be a good piece to regain some draft capital or get a good player. (Hopefully)

Just trade #11+#23+Addison for JJ McCarthy

 

[Sad People]

Just trade #11+#23+Addison for JJ McCarthy

Gross

 

[StreetHawk]

Hopefully we can without giving up next years first. Could be a good piece to regain some draft capital or get a good player. (Hopefully)

1, 2, and 3 to go from 12 to 3. Then going from 12 to 6 cost a 2. Net to go from 3 to 6 was an extra 1st and 3rd.

is 2 seconds equal to a 1 and 3? Maybe 1 more addition, but the question is how much does Minny need to ensure that they jump NYG and don't give the NYG a chance to jump them? Meaning that they can't just deal with LAC for 5 and leave the door open for the NYG to jump them with AZ at 4? Going from 4 to 6 leaves AZ their choice of one of the top WR or OT in the draft still to help Murray.

But, going from 4 to 11 and 23 and whatever, that's a lot different and I think the top 3 WR could/will be off the board at 11. Probably down to OT 3 as I would expect LAC and NYJ to take OT. NYG would that Harrison JR, Chicago would likely take a WR. So, really down to what TEN does at 7 as I think ATL at 8 needs to get some D. So, AZ would be left with OT3 or WR3. So, need to get more in return to drop down there.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Jumping up to #4 or #5 to take McCarthy, they better be right it's both of their jobs.

 

[57special]

Surely McCarthy is not worth an 11 and a 23? There are basically two QB's that are, if not sure things, then potentially top QB's, then Daniels, who is a maybe, then a bunch of question marks? It seems like McCarthy's stock has risen after the season's play, which is kind of weird, and panicky on the part of teams that need QB's.

 

[MuckOG]

I guess it comes down to which prospect KOC likes best and doing whatever it takes to get him. If KOC likes Maye or Daniels, I think they will swing for the fence.

Their jobs are on the line, they need to get this right.

 

[MuckOG]

 

[StreetHawk]

Surely McCarthy is not worth an 11 and a 23? There are basically two QB's that are, if not sure things, then potentially top QB's, then Daniels, who is a maybe, then a bunch of question marks? It seems like McCarthy's stock has risen after the season's play, which is kind of weird, and panicky on the part of teams that need QB's.

Well, there is a price to pay. I mean, if the Giants want him, the #6 pick is way more valuable than 11 as it gives AZ their choice of the top WR or OT in the draft, both are helpful to their QB.

What are you asking the team AZ/LAC for example to pass up to drop to 11? Some high end WR and OT at the top of this draft.