Proposal: NJD - TOR

[The3rd]

NJD
Ben Lovejoy + Steven Santini

TOR
Nikita Zaitsev + Igor Ozhiganov + 2020 2nd round pick + 2021 3rd round pick

Reasons;

NJD
Receives a capable player who is overpaid by roughly 1.5 million, but receives high mid round picks for 2 years in return, as well as a more affordable depth d-man. Also get's rid of a depth defense man with some possible upside but who's term is too long in Santini. Lovejoy comes off the book at the end of this season regardless

TOR
Adds a Physical defense man who comes off the book at the end of the year and may help the team, will still have to pay Santini in a depth role for 3 years.

Yes this is a cap dump for Toronto at a significant expense.

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[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

That is “significant expense”?

**** that.

Devils say no immediately. Joke of an offer, frankly, considering you snuck Santini in there. Get out of here.

 

[Drew311]

Devils don't touch this.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

Also, what’s a “high mid pick”? Very contradictory.

And Santini’s term (signed through 20-21) is “too long,” but Zaitsev’s term (through 23-24) is cool?

Terrible proposal, and even worse logic. Awful.

 

[Groo]

Also, what’s a “high mid pick”? Very contradictory.

And Santini’s term (signed through 20-21) is “too long,” but Zaitsev’s term (through 23-24) is cool?

Terrible proposal, and even worse logic. Awful.

It's much worse than that. It's typical

 

[mydnyte]

NJD
Ben Lovejoy + Steven Santini

TOR
Nikita Zaitsev + Igor Ozhiganov + 2020 2nd round pick + 2021 3rd round pick

Reasons;

NJD
Receives a capable player who is overpaid by roughly 1.5 million, but receives high mid round picks for 2 years in return, as well as a more affordable depth d-man. Also get's rid of a depth defense man with some possible upside but who's term is too long in Santini. Lovejoy comes off the book at the end of this season regardless

TOR
Adds a Physical defense man who comes off the book at the end of the year and may help the team, will still have to pay Santini in a depth role for 3 years.

Yes this is a cap dump for Toronto at a significant expense.

Zaitsev is not a dump, he plays 20+ mins a night (3rd on the team in icetime, and within 4 seconds on Hainsey on the PK and the only use we have for Hainsey) ...he is actually well worth his salary, he just is the current poster boy for Leafs hatred.
what is Santini going to do for the Leafs, battle Holl for a seat on the bench?

 

[TBF1972]

New Jersey preferes Toronto to retain 1.5 million on the Zaitsev contract instead of taking Santini off their books. They just signed him in the summer.
2nd and 3rd round picks are still no overwhelming compensation for 15 million $ and 5 years of 3 million cap hit.

 

[TBF1972]

Zaitsev is not a dump, he plays 20+ mins a night (3rd on the team in icetime, and within 4 seconds on Hainsey on the PK and the only use we have for Hainsey) ...he is actually well worth his salary, he just is the current poster boy for Leafs hatred.

Zaitsev seems to improve with every trade proposal.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

Swap out Igor Ozhiganov + 2020 2nd round pick + 2021 3rd round pick and give NJ Rasmus Sandin instead.

Then you have a deal

 

[The3rd]

After hearing the feedback and doing more HW I'd like to delete this proposal. I apologize if I have offended any Devils fans, I thought Santini was more of an anchor than he is...so while I walk home with may tail between my legs (as deserved) can someone teach me how to delete the thread, or is this more of a life-long HF board lesson I need to learn lol?

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Zaitsev is not a dump, he plays 20+ mins a night (3rd on the team in icetime, and within 4 seconds on Hainsey on the PK and the only use we have for Hainsey) ...he is actually well worth his salary, he just is the current poster boy for Leafs hatred.
what is Santini going to do for the Leafs, battle Holl for a seat on the bench?

Zaitsev is a total dump. If he wasn’t, the leafs wouldn’t be so desperate to trade him as he plays a position of need (RHD)

 

[dubplatepressure]

Also, what’s a “high mid pick”? Very contradictory.

And Santini’s term (signed through 20-21) is “too long,” but Zaitsev’s term (through 23-24) is cool?

Terrible proposal, and even worse logic. Awful.

You sound like you don't like this one.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Leafs are in a Cup run. They weaken their defence by trading their two Dmen for the Jersey Dmen.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

Zaitsev is not a dump, he plays 20+ mins a night (3rd on the team in icetime, and within 4 seconds on Hainsey on the PK and the only use we have for Hainsey) ...he is actually well worth his salary, he just is the current poster boy for Leafs hatred.
what is Santini going to do for the Leafs, battle Holl for a seat on the bench?

Word.

I want absolutely no part of that contract. Nothing to do with it. Especially for a friggin 2nd and a 3rd - just horrific.

 

[WaW]

Mods need to lock every thread proposing a Zaitsev trade. The proposals have all been beyond ridiculous, at this point it should he considered mass trolling.

 

[NHL WAR]

Any TML that thinks they'll offload him for anythign less than Sandin or Liljegren is just dellusionnal, Getitng anything back in return is just plain stupid

Care to make a bet?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Leafs don't touch this, not right now

 

[NJDevils#4]

We'll take your crappy contract, sure. But you better be willing to pay.

Us giving up a rental and a respectable developemental D man as well as a 2nd and 3rd is laughable.

Readjust your thinking. You're dumping a horrific contract on us. Ok. Now go. What do we get for that?

 

[LeafSteel]

OP was big enough to admit it was not a well thought out proposal.

No need to pile on and carry on.

Lock it please.

 

[DougGilmour93]

What would Miles Wood cost?

 

[135ace]

Is it bottom 5 or bottom 2?

Keep moving the goalposts ladies and gentleman.

I would rather have Lucic's contract over Zaitsev's on the books, not to mention that EDM would actually give us valuable assets to take it. I have no interest in helping TML shed space, if anything the only dealings I want to have with your franchise is offer sheeting Kapanen to put you further into cap hell.

 

[baton elevated]

Z will be taken in the expansion draft cause Seattle needs to reach the floor. Problem solved.

 

[TOGuy14]

What's with all the NJ dudes calling out Zaitsev's contract as bottom 2/3 in the league?

Lucic is worse. Clarkson is worse. Hell, the Habs are paying Alzner more to play in the AHL.

That doesn't even touch upon the fact the Devils are paying 6M for the next three and a half years for a goalie who is ass even in the minors

 

[mitchthemitch]

Zaitsev is a total dump. If he wasn’t, the leafs wouldn’t be so desperate to trade him as he plays a position of need (RHD)

Who says leafs are desperate to trade him? Only the fans, who don't know a thing about what's really going on up there

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

What's with all the NJ dudes calling out Zaitsev's contract as bottom 2/3 in the league?

Lucic is worse. Clarkson is worse. Hell, the Habs are paying Alzner more to play in the AHL.

That doesn't even touch upon the fact the Devils are paying 6M for the next three and a half years for a goalie who is ass even in the minors

Clarkson's contract expires in 2020. Alzner's is done in 2022.

Zaitsev is under contract until 2024... for within ~$500K of those guys. Do you not see the significant difference?