League News: NHL Talk - (News n' Scores n' Stuff) | 2024-25 Summer Edition

[usiel]

As anything when it comes to fights that get legal involved just have to wait till the facts come out until then don't have an opinion. Just personal experience never trust the 'reasons' for a fight when it comes first out. Cause it will be exaggerated and or completely misrepresented.

Seen the what ends up the real shit right off the bat that takes forever to get proven and the opposite.

 

[StrikingDistance]

Hey! I used the word "usually."

And yes, women get harassed and that tends to be the exception.

But why be skeptical in this instance:

1) Eye witnesses (even though ppl's memories are shit, the restaurant manager and other customers saw what happened, hence he didn't get arrested)
2) Probably camera footage which I'm surprised hasn't been leaked
3) His account seems somewhat coherent and detailed (if he was really drunk, I doubt he remembers much...especially after getting kicked in the head several times)

But you are somewhat correct, I spent lots of time downtown in divey places and have good friends in the DC food & bev industry. There are lots of entitled drunken idiots who think they are impervious to repercussions...until they aren't.

 

[zappa4ever]

I'm giving Biz the benefit of some doubt here mostly b/c there were 6 mugshots posted
plus he knows with his social media presence and TV job that he'll catch a lot of flak if he throws out a BS story that can be refuted fairly quickly

I do doubt the words that were exchanged that led up to the altercation and how civilized that exchange was before it got physical

 

[g00n]

We are all justifiably skeptical these days, but people sometimes do act for the right reasons.

Biz seemed sincere in his appreciation for the management, and as someone who worked service/hospitality for a long time with just this sort of patron, a pushy mob of angry half-drunks or wannabe-drunks trying to strong arm someone at the door seems entirely plausible. As does a dedicated patron coming to the rescue.

But weirder things have happened in the world. Bill Cosby was everyone's proxy TV father until he turned out to be roofie Satan. It's still possible Biz did step in for the right reasons, but let his swagger and mouth turn things ugly, possibly with the same "I dare you" attitude some martial arts intermediates show in public when they can't wait to test out their skills.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Even by Bissonette's own account, he's the one who initiated physical contact and suggested they step outside and fight. That is an escalation.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Even by Bissonette's own account, he's the one who initiated physical contact and suggested they step outside and fight. That is an escalation.

Kinda…

“I walk over, I grab the guy’s arm and I say, ‘Listen, buddy, if you keep harassing and assaulting the staff here, we’re going to go outside and we’re going to have some problems,’” Bissonnette said on the podcast. “The minute that left my mouth, the guy besides him starts throwing punches. And next thing you know there’s four guys swinging at me.”

Bissonnette and the Manager are officially listed as victims in the arrest charges.

 

[g00n]

Kinda…

“I walk over, I grab the guy’s arm and I say, ‘Listen, buddy, if you keep harassing and assaulting the staff here, we’re going to go outside and we’re going to have some problems,’” Bissonnette said on the podcast. “The minute that left my mouth, the guy besides him starts throwing punches. And next thing you know there’s four guys swinging at me.”

Bissonnette and the Manager are officially listed as victims in the arrest charges.

I have no problem with this if it's true. What's the alternative? Do nothing? Say to a bunch of belligerent assholes "perhaps your tone could be taken down a wee bit, sir"? I'm sure the manager was already trying to defuse the situation so a bit of calm de-escalation was likely off the table by then.

But we'll see. Maybe.