NHL Stat Corrections

[blogofmike]

Apologize if this has come up before but I couldn't find it so...

Was looking at Bobby Hull stats while reading the Hull/Espo thread (voted Hull).

Noticed that his 1969 +/- is a plus-12 on NHL.com now:
NHL.com - Stats

While it was previously a minus-7, as seen on hockeyreference.com :
Bobby Hull Stats | Hockey-Reference.com

While plus/minus is questionable, a jump from -7 to +12 may have some people completely change their view of Hull's 1969 season.

Have there been any notable adjustments to the NHL's recounted stats (aside from the Rocket's extra assist)?

 

[Doctor No]

Painting with a broad brush, I'd say that every goaltender who playing significant time pre-1970 had their W-L-T totals change. I talk more about it near the end of this thread:

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threa...69-to-present-and-research-questions.1610265/

For instance, Terry Sawchuk is now at 445-336-171.

Terry Sawchuk Stats and News

 

[blogofmike]

Painting with a broad brush, I'd say that every goaltender who playing significant time pre-1970 had their W-L-T totals change. I talk more about it near the end of this thread:

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threa...69-to-present-and-research-questions.1610265/

For instance, Terry Sawchuk is now at 445-336-171.

Terry Sawchuk Stats and News

Thanks Doc, but I meant real stats. No one will ever care about goalie stats.





Just kidding. You have a great site.

 

[Black Gold Extractor]

Have there been any notable adjustments to the NHL's recounted stats (aside from the Rocket's extra assist)?

It's not exactly significant like the improved goalie records or Hull's big correction, but I think you'll like this one: Gretzky was actually +100 in 1984-85.

 

[Canadiens1958]

Errors happen all the time. Scoring summary from the Canadiens game last night

Detroit Red Wings vs. Montreal Canadiens

Not corrected, down the road, readers will think the Canadiens actually dressed and strategically played seven LW.

Similar situations throughout history whether Red Kelly not getting credit with Detroit for games or times at center or LW or swingmen being listed for only one position.

 

[Doctor No]

Thanks Doc, but I meant real stats. No one will ever care about goalie stats.

Just kidding. You have a great site.

Thanks!

(You should have told me to "watch the games" )

 

[Doctor No]

Errors happen all the time. Scoring summary from the Canadiens game last night

Detroit Red Wings vs. Montreal Canadiens

Not corrected, down the road, readers will think the Canadiens actually dressed and strategically played seven LW.

Similar situations throughout history whether Red Kelly not getting credit with Detroit for games or times at center or LW or swingmen being listed for only one position.

These aren't "errors" in the same sense as the original thread implies (and are far less interesting) - the difference being that the NHL has no intention of getting the game-level detail of positions correct in last night's DET/MON box score, and they're intended to reflect long-term positions for players (which they still get wrong on occasion).

 

[Canadiens1958]

These aren't "errors" in the same sense as the original thread implies (and are far less interesting) - the difference being that the NHL has no intention of getting the game-level detail of positions correct in last night's DET/MON box score, and they're intended to reflect long-term positions for players (which they still get wrong on occasion).

Example also illustrâtes the rangeof possible discrepencies between the early edition of newspapers, before changes were made and the final edition of the same newspaper same day after changes were mad.

Always had the rush to be first with the news not the most accurate. Be it in the internet age or anytime since the start of the NHL.

 

[Doctor No]

Example also illustrâtes the rangeof possible discrepencies between the early edition of newspapers, before changes were made and the final edition of the same newspaper same day after changes were mad.

Always had the rush to be first with the news not the most accurate. Be it in the internet age or anytime since the start of the NHL.

Although interesting, how is that relevant to the NHL changing their own statistical totals?

 

[Canadiens1958]

Although interesting, how is that relevant to the NHL changing their own statistical totals?

Changes always have a reason. The one game change in goalie wins has its source somewhere. Where in the chain was the transcription error made?

 

[Canadiens1958]

Interesting Montréal Forum clock fraud in the late 1960s:

Coolopolis: The great Montreal Canadiens illegal gambling timekeeping scandal of 1969

Same thing with transcription errors. Are these transcription errors truly random or happening at one source disproportionately?

 

[blogofmike]

It's not exactly significant like the improved goalie records or Hull's big correction, but I think you'll like this one: Gretzky was actually +100 in 1984-85.

Round numbers are cool, but I always thought it should have been +99.

 

[blogofmike]

Interesting Montréal Forum clock fraud in the late 1960s:

Coolopolis: The great Montreal Canadiens illegal gambling timekeeping scandal of 1969

Same thing with transcription errors. Are these transcription errors truly random or hapening at one source disproportionately?

In the future, someone will be caught awarding/excluding secondary assists based on their fantasy hockey pool.

 

[BlueBull]

Is there any extra points added to players final numbers? Other than Richard. Also since sawchuk had 445 wins instead of 447, when did brodeur actually pass sawchuk?