NHL Players Reportedly Bothered By Jacob Trouba Trade Saga With Rangers

[dgibb10]

And you don't know what coercion is.

If a player submits a list of teams he doesn't want to be traded to, and then is forced to be traded to one of those teams I find that to be circumventing the mNTC. Why have a mNTC when you can just put a player on waivers and let some other team take them? Screw the agreement right?

If only there was a clause that protected you from being placed on waivers

 

[EdmFlyersfan]

What I am concerned about is how is Modano's dog is going to eat after this incident...

 

[ClydeLee]

And you don't know what coercion is.

If a player submits a list of teams he doesn't want to be traded to, and then is forced to be traded to one of those teams I find that to be circumventing the mNTC. Why have a mNTC when you can just put a player on waivers and let some other team take them? Screw the agreement right?

He was not forced. He could just say no, find a team not on the ntc or waive him. He probably would of wound up in Anaheim anyway.

Chicago wouldn't of wanted him, Nashville couldn't afford him. Was anywhere else below Anaheim?

 

[Over the volcano]

Bad for NYR business

 

[Zirakzigil]

I dont feel bad for Trouba at all. He played contract games with both the Jets and Rangers, karma bit back. Should of negotiated a full NMC if he wanted full control.

 

[DJJones]

I don't see what the controversy is. He didn't have a no move clause. The only reason the waiver threat worked is because the Rangers put zero value in him. They were willing to give him away for free and no one thought they were bluffing.

If players are worried about that, don't sign contracts where you have negative value to your team. Frankly hes lucky the contract is 100% guaranteed

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

I don't see what the controversy is. He didn't have a no move clause. The only reason the waiver threat worked is because the Rangers put zero value in him. They were willing to give him away for free and no one thought they were bluffing.

If players are worried about that, don't sign contracts where you have negative value to your team. Frankly hes lucky the contract is 100% guaranteed

The controversy is Trouba is mad even though NYR did nothing wrong.

 

[DJJones]

The controversy is Trouba is mad even though NYR did nothing wrong.

Of course hes mad, he just got embarassed nationally.

I just don't see that as controversial

 

[GirardSpinorama]

No one should feel bad for Trouba. He needs to be a man and accept the deal hes signed and live with it.

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

did someone say Trade?

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Within the rules….Trouba blocked trades, so they found a way around his roadblock.

Suck it up players….get a NMC next time.

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

Drury did nothing wrong.

If Trouba wanted a NMC, his agent should have negotiated for one.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Within the rules….Trouba blocked trades, so they found a way around his roadblock.

Suck it up players….get a NMC next time.

this atitude leads to lock outs and strikes.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

this atitude leads to lock outs and strikes.

Yes please let’s see if the players are willing to go to war for it. I doubt it.

What’s the solution? Change the entire waiver system? Only allow player approved teams on a NTC to claim?

 

[Oilslick941611]

Drury did nothing wrong.

If Trouba wanted a NMC, his agent should have negotiated for one.

Drury absolutely did something wrong. He took it public and ruined his teams locker room.

Yes please let’s see if the players are willing to go to war for it. I doubt it.

What’s the solution? Change the entire waiver system? Only allow player approved teams on a NTC to claim?

its never just one issue, its a piling up of small ones.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Drury absolutely did something wrong. He took it public and ruined his teams locker room.

I’d suggest the room already was fractured/had issues and they’re trying to remove problems from that room to eventually improve it.

 

[Oilslick941611]

I’d suggest the room already was fractured/had issues and they’re trying to remove problems from that room to eventually improve it.

sure and going public is never the best idea. It seems pretty desperate actually. Look at Swayman and boston how that went with management going public with dirty laundry.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Bad for NYR business

You wish it was, but it's not at all lmao. Literally a big nothing burger.

 

[Oilslick941611]

You wish it was, but it's not at all lmao. Literally a big nothing burger.

it will be nothing for the NYR becuase they play in NYC, if Drury was the GM of say the wild or stars...then this would be a bigger issue for him.

 

[Tawnos]

I don't see what the controversy is. He didn't have a no move clause. The only reason the waiver threat worked is because the Rangers put zero value in him. They were willing to give him away for free and no one thought they were bluffing.

If players are worried about that, don't sign contracts where you have negative value to your team. Frankly hes lucky the contract is 100% guaranteed

That last part is total and complete nonsense. Players will never, ever EVER decide not to sign a contract for less than what's being offered to them because they're worried they can't live up to it. Players will never, ever EVER not try to get the best clauses in their contracts that they can. Expecting them to do that is absolutely absurd. It's the team's responsibility not to overpay players. It's the team's responsibility not to offer or agree to clauses that might be problematic.

I'm not saying that to absolve Trouba of any responsibility for this situation in 2024. He manipulated his M-NTC in a way that was within his rights, but not really in good faith. He let the trade situation from over the summer affect his play on the ice and the way he acted in the locker room. Those things are his responsibility. But expecting any player to torpedo their own contract negotiations is absolutely ridiculous.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

sure and going public is never the best idea. It seems pretty desperate actually. Look at Swayman and boston how that went with management going public with dirty laundry.

It may never be the best option, but sometimes desperate situations call for desperate measures.

 

[TGWL]

If only there was a clause that protected you from being placed on waivers

Yes, that's true. But what good is negotiating a M-NTC if waivers can eliminate that? We're not talking about a player being sent to the AHL and the issue isn't being on actual waivers. Teams typically expect a slightly lesser deal when you add restrictions, no? Yet, they can put you on waivers to be claimed by those 15 teams. That's the issue. The other issue is a GM telling the player, "Waive to a team I have a deal with or else." That's what Drury did.

Are teams doing anything currently against what they have the right to do when it comes to putting players on waivers? No. But does it make sense? Again, no, not really. It's not difficult to understand why players think that's something that should be changed. It's not something that should change tomorrow, but it should definitely be talked about in the CBA negotiations. This isn't exactly a pick your battles situation. It's a pretty big one.

Typically, when you expose a highly paid player to waivers you couldn't make a deal and you're hoping somebody takes this older vet from your team. Rarely is it because you want to play hardball because he wouldn't accept offers you did have. So it's easy to see why this ruffled some feathers.

The only thing waiving the M-NTC does is allow a team to get a valuable asset back and make deals., yet they can say F the asset and deal, take this player off my team because he's not playing nice and agreeing with me. Fans can point to a player not living up to his contract but that's a different issue and I don't see that going well in CBA negotiations. Drury didn't do anything wrong here because that's a allowed. Noting you can do now, but it will certainly be brought up.

 

[tucker3434]

Well, there’s a reason a NMC is preferred over a NTC.

 

[Orfieus]

My opinion is if a player signs a no trade the team isn't allowed in anyway to ask the player to waive that, its up to the player to ask for a trade

But that's me