NHL Players Reportedly Bothered By Jacob Trouba Trade Saga With Rangers

[Viqsi]

Oh, he has an NMC that ended inconveniently due to Covid? Poor baby. Lots of people had a bunch of unplanned crap happen to the as a result of a totally unpredictable world phenomenon.

Deal with it.

Yeah, and most of us compliained about it when it happened, and not unfairly so. He's allowed to complain. There's some degree of Poetic Justice involved given his own prior "didn't do anything against the rules" stunts to get him to NYC in the first place, but he's still allowed to complain, and it makes sense that other players would look at that situation and go "well, gee, they really Do Not Give A Shit so guess we have to be even bigger hardasses about this negotiated right."

 

[ClydeLee]

Player has no trade protection for half the League.

Team says waive it or we put you on waivers, now you go from protection from half the League to protection from zero teams.

Essentially saying to player "tough sh*t about your No Trade Clause, pick which of these teams you would hate going to the least or else it's entirely out of your hands"

End result, no protection clause effectively went away.

Because he's so low value, they were willing to let him walk for nothing.

How often does that ever happen with players who earn a NTC?

It's not a loopholes it's a problem caused by being awful value of a deal he agreed to.

 

[Kupo]

I will lose a lot of sleep over this travesty.

 

[Tawnos]

But NTCs don’t protect you from waivers anyway. Just because you have one doesn’t mean you are 100% safe.

If I move to another city for a new job and get fired, the company doesn’t give a shit what happens to me at that point.

It’s entitlement in its finest and you plan the best you can. Oh, he has an NMC that ended inconveniently due to Covid? Poor baby. Lots of people had a bunch of unplanned crap happen to the as a result of a totally unpredictable world phenomenon.

Deal with it.

You do realize that part of “dealing with it” for the players is to use the collective bargaining process to change the way they work in the future, right? It’s why they have a union (and why unions can be good). It’s not about the way NTCs actually work under the current agreement, but how they’d like them to work under a future agreement.

This isn’t whining. This is identifying what they see as a problem in the way these things work now and saying “let’s see if we can fix it.”

 

[Bard Marchand]

Really hard to feel sorry for the guy. If he didn't want to be traded, he should have played better.

Drury played within the rules.

Trouba saying "Everyone in New York gets fired eventually" is the most butthurt comment ever.

 

[King Woodballs]

Womp womp
Should have had a no move instead of a no trade.

 

[JackSlater]

Rangers did nothing against the rules. Players should be mad that Trouble was making several millions of dollars a year more than he should have, money that could have gone to other NHLers.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

There was no loophole...

If there was any loophole it was Trouba’s agent leaking to the press that he wouldn’t report to another team to try to turn the partial NTC into a full NMC.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

"Tough cookies" being the reaction is precisely why other players would find this whole situation disturbing. This attitude leads to more NMCs and even more lock-in.

It is "Tough Cookies" He negotiated something up to July 2024. So yea, TOUGH COOKIES. I'm sure if he wasn't so greedy and asked for just 6.5M maybe they could have made the entire deal a NMC but he did not.

There is literally nothing disturbing about this "situation" at all. He did not have a NMC and he could be put on waivers. Not sure what the confusion is.

 

[Section 104]

Southern California is nice. He and the Mrs will survive on $8 million a year for two years. Heck he could always retire and be Mr Mom…he should have enough saved away. I had a couple incidents when I was in the military about transfers: one where I had no choice, the other when the detailer told me to choose either a cold isolated station or a warm isolated station. I chose the latter. But then I knew the risks both when I enlisted and chose my rate. And I wasn’t getting $8 million a year..just an extra $18 a month for isolated duty.

Trouba used going to New York to get a big fat contract that he never would have gotten in Winnipeg. Time to pay the fiddler, Jacob. At least with the Ducks your season will be over in Mid April

 

[The Crypto Guy]

If there was any loophole it was Trouba’s agent leaking to the press that he wouldn’t report to another team to try to turn the partial NTC into a full NMC.

Bingo.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Rangers did nothing against the rules.

Read the article, nobody said they did. They're talking about a discussion point for the next CBA.

 

[KovalchukFistPump]

There are tons of things that are unfair. Rangers had the rights to explore a trade or waivers of a player that was underperforming. That player, being a captain, also had the rights to mail it in and help foster a toxic locker room situation. Which he did.

Gonna be interesting what the Devils do with a guy that seems to be loved in the room like Palat. At one point you gotta be a little cutthroat with the good guys that just aren't performing to their contract if you want to win a Cup.

Sorry but Trouba seems to be wanting special treatment due to his wife's job and that they had a baby. Maybe wait a year before having a kid....tons of regular folks decide to wait for financial/life reasons and many nowadays don't feel they can afford it under any condition.

 

[Viqsi]

It is "Tough Cookies" He negotiated something up to July 2024. So yea, TOUGH COOKIES. I'm sure if he wasn't so greedy and asked for just 6.5M maybe they could have made the entire deal a NMC but he did not.

There is literally nothing disturbing about this "situation" at all. He did not have a NMC and he could be put on waivers. Not sure what the confusion is.

Well, of course it isn't a disturbing issue for you. You don't play in the NHL. Neither do I, for that matter, but I can see why folks who do would find it troublesome, and from their perspective I would be inclined to agree. I mean, personally I'm also bitterly envious of their having that right to insist they get to stay somewhere, but they got it fair and square through a mutual negotiation process, so oh well. If the teams don't like it, they can negotiate that with the next CBA the same way the players intend to.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Read the article, nobody said they did. They're talking about a discussion point for the next CBA.

If players want NMC/NTC then they have to accept the waiver part of it, or get rid of NTC’s and/or guaranteed contracts.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

That hardly qualifies as a clarification or even a rationale. He was evidently up to moving to other places as need be once the residency was completed; the plan had been built into his contract. I can easily see him perceiving that as a "I tried to give my team flexibility when I could afford it and got burned for it" situation and he would arguably not be wrong to see it that way. If renegotiations were an option, I'd imagine he'd have pursued that.

I mean, after what he pulled with the Jets I'm not exactly overflowing with sympathy for him either, but this "well gosh then he shoulda" line is just completely nonsensical.

This isn’t it and you as a CBJ fan should be outraged at what he did.

He was unwilling to waive it for CBJ, who had a deal in place, but he was willing to waive it for Anaheim.

The “I need to be close to my family shtick” evidently wasn’t his top consideration with this, considering he passed up moving to Ohio for California. He’ll only be contracted for another season and a half anyway, so this wasn’t a long haul decision of where he’d be playing.

Seems like being close to his family wasn’t all there was to this.

 

[Viqsi]

Womp womp
Should have had a no move instead of a no trade.

He had one. The situation is more nuanced than that.

 

[Tawnos]

Read the article, nobody said they did. They're talking about a discussion point for the next CBA.

A lot of people don’t seem to understand this. If the players believed that the Rangers did something against the rules, the talk wouldn’t be about the next CBA. It would be about the NHLPA filing a grievance on Trouba’s behalf.

 

[Barrie22]

Player has no trade protection for half the League.

Team says waive it or we put you on waivers, now you go from protection from half the League to protection from zero teams.

Essentially saying to player "tough sh*t about your No Trade Clause, pick which of these teams you would hate going to the least or else it's entirely out of your hands"

End result, no protection clause effectively went away.

And that is how this has been for as long as there have been no trade clauses and no move clauses. 1 protects only trades, 1 protects everything.

It is why as a player you should know what you are negotiating and signing especially long term like trouba did.

 

[Oilslick941611]

You do realize that part of “dealing with it” for the players is to use the collective bargaining process to change the way they work in the future, right? It’s why they have a union (and why unions can be good). It’s not about the way NTCs actually work under the current agreement, but how they’d like them to work under a future agreement.

This isn’t whining. This is identifying what they see as a problem in the way these things work now and saying “let’s see if we can fix it.”

Well said

 

[Bocephus86]

GMs are billionaires?

GMs represent the ownership group, didn't think I had to spell that out. A move like this is cleared through ownership.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Well, of course it isn't a disturbing issue for you. You don't play in the NHL. Neither do I, for that matter, but I can see why folks who do would find it troublesome, and from their perspective I would be inclined to agree. I mean, personally I'm also bitterly envious of their having that right to insist they get to stay somewhere, but they got it fair and square through a mutual negotiation process, so oh well. If the teams don't like it, they can negotiate that with the next CBA the same way the players intend to.

lol, what are they planning on negotiating??

"We want to negotiate that if our NMC expires, that we are allowed to still block trades and moves" .

There is nothing to negotiate. The whole article is a joke.

 

[Golden_Jet]

He had one. The situation is more nuanced than that.

Here is his contract, you can see year by year what he actually had.

https://puckpedia.com/player/jacob-trouba

 

[Voight]

He could've had a NMC for the entire contract but he choose to get more money. Thats on him.

The team also had trade partners for him last summer and he said he wouldn't report to any of the 31 other teams.

I am far for an ownership defender

But it's not like Drury woke up one day with no reason going 'hmm no yep Trouba is too happy, how can I f*** up his life"

In this career, this is the simplest cure for underperformance. It's that, wavier, buyout. Try not sucking and living up to your contract and you SHARPLY minimize the opportunity to experience any of them.

As another poster mentioned as well, kinda full-circle justice for Trouba as well given his departure from the Jets.

If he played like an 8 million dollar player, he'd still be a Ranger. His "fault" for never living up to the contract especially when he lost his protection.

 

[centipede2233]

We are in the softest nhl era in its history, story checks out