Post-Game Talk: NHL Expansion Draft and Awards II - Bruins lose Colin Miller - Bergeron Wins Selke

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[LouJersey]

All of these trades today are mesmerizing. I watched the awards show and was told that GMs were chomping at the bit for the deadline to pass so they could wheel and deal.

 

[Estlin]

All of these trades today are mesmerizing. I watched the awards show and was told that GMs were chomping at the bit for the deadline to pass so they could wheel and deal.

To be fair, it is just past 9 a.m. on the west coast. Their day is just getting started.

 

[DoubleAAAA]

McKenzie tweeted this morning he expects more activity tomorrow than today for whatever reason.

 

[BruinsFanMike82]

 

[EverettMike]

Originally Posted by Fenian24 View Post
Sounds like a reason to extend both of them to me.

Can you explain why you think advanced metrics aren't just bad but are completely wrong?

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Originally from bp13 (old thread)

I'm good with this. This is what I expect to see too. Then you have Killer and probably Liles or Morrow on 3rd pair. Your 6th d-guy sucks but that's not atypical.

It's a decent defense. Not great, but not bad at all.


I want no part of Liles. Am really hoping that one of O'Gara, Zboril, or Lauzon steps up and grabs the 3rd pair LH slot (maybe Morrow). ROG is not what I would call a PMD, but his puck retrieval and first pass skills are very good, and I think he would be a good compliment to either McQ or Killer. Both Zboril and Lauzon can skate.

If one of those guys don't step up, maybe a guy like Schmidt. I don't like him as a Top 4, but think he would be very good third pair with 54/86.

 

[DoubleAAAA]

Strome for Eberle, I like it for NYI - I I think know a lot of folks don't like Ebs but I think he could be great with JT. Who knows what Strome will be, but the Oil did need to ditch salary.

 

[LouJersey]

Strome for Eberle, I like it for NYI - I I think know a lot of folks don't like Ebs but I think he could be great with JT. Who knows what Strome will be, but the Oil did need to ditch salary.

You would think now the Bruins could get something decent for Spooner.

 

[DoubleAAAA]

You would think now the Bruins could get something decent for Spooner.

I think he's got some value for sure.

 

[BruinDust]

You would think now the Bruins could get something decent for Spooner.

Jimmy Murphy says Ryan Spooner would be nothing more than a throw-in at this stage.

So that means he must have value if it came from Murphy.

 

[whatsbruin]

Chara-Carlo
Miller-McAvoy
Krug-McQuaid.

With no deals or injuries, book it for opening night.

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Isn't McAvoy better than Carlo ?
Why not switch Carlo and McAvoy ? Put the better player up to the first D pair ?
Move Carlo to the second pair where he probably matches up better.

 

[LouJersey]

Isn't McAvoy better than Carlo ?
Why not switch Carlo and McAvoy ? Put the better player up to the first D pair ?
Move Carlo to the second pair where he probably matches up better.

You could do that.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Jimmy Murphy says Ryan Spooner would be nothing more than a throw-in at this stage.

So that means he must have value if it came from Murphy.

Spooner is 25, and put up decent numbers (44 pt average the last two years) with subpar wings and in a system that wasn't suited to him. Maybe it's just me, but I think he's more than a throw in.

There are teams (ARI, LV) that could really use him IMO.

But, hey, I'm no Jimmy Murphy.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

You could do that.

Barring any deals:

Chara-McAvoy
Krug-Carlo

Bottom 3 of Miller, McQ, and one of Morrow, O'Gara, Zboril, Lauzon.

 

[LouJersey]

Spooner is 25, and put up decent numbers (44 pt average the last two years) with subpar wings and in a system that wasn't suited to him. Maybe it's just me, but I think he's more than a throw in.

There are teams (ARI, LV) that could really use him IMO.

But, hey, I'm no Jimmy Murphy.

I've seen enough of both to say Spooner is better and should have at least as much value.

Spooner for Neal
Spooner for Methot

2nd and a prospect maybe

No reason to give him away for peanuts.

 

[BruinDust]

Spooner is 25, and put up decent numbers (44 pt average the last two years) with subpar wings and in a system that wasn't suited to him. Maybe it's just me, but I think he's more than a throw in.

There are teams (ARI, LV) that could really use him IMO.

But, hey, I'm no Jimmy Murphy.

No but really who is?

Spooner's value IMO is somewhere in the middle of "he's a very good young player" to "throw-in".

He's helped by the fact his actual offensive production since coming into the league has been quite good, essential a Point every 2nd game player, even if it's skewed towards special teams play. He's been part of a fairly successful 1st PP unit.

He's hurt by his arbitration rights and the fact that in this years playoffs, with the Bruins essentially icing a 1st, a 3rd, and two 4th lines once Krejci went down, he still found himself a healthy scratch. That doesn't go unnoticed by hockey people.

I'm not a fan of the kid, but he can be part of a package for a decent return, not the centerpiece, but not a "throw-in" either as Murphy claims he would be.

Bruins shouldn't give him away, but I wouldn't draw a hard line in the sand moving him either. I don't see his value going up much if at all, especially if he finds himself pushed out further by more capable two-way players like JFK and Kuraly next fall.

 

[LouJersey]

If you're going to just use spooner as a throw in you might as well keep him to regain some value this year. If he doesn't then dump him then.

 

[DoubleAAAA]

Habs get Schlemko for a 5th, good deal for them. Solid depth add.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

If you're going to just use spooner as a throw in you might as well keep him to regain some value this year. If he doesn't then dump him then.

Agree. Either keep him for whatever ES role you want to give him + top-PP time or move him in a package to get a top-6 W.

 

[BruinsFanMike82]

habs get schlemko for a 5th, good deal for them. Solid depth add.

 

[Trap Jesus]

That reveal of the team last night is so odd in retrospect. So many of them won't even be on the team.

It was cool to see that they have a "face of the franchise" in Fleury though. An awful face of the franchise (at least in terms of how good he is on the ice), but a face of the franchise nonetheless.

 

[BruinDust]

That reveal of the team last night is so odd in retrospect. So many of them won't even be on the team.

It was cool to see that they have a "face of the franchise" in Fleury though. An awful face of the franchise (at least in terms of how good he is on the ice), but a face of the franchise nonetheless.

Seems like the guys who they trotted out on stage are guys they determined to keep into the fall at least. Add in the guys acquired in trades, seems like they will have at least:

R.Smith - Marchessault - Neal
Huala - Eakin - Tuch


Theodore - Engelland
McNabb


Fleury

 

[Number8]

Habs get Schlemko for a 5th, good deal for them. Solid depth add.

Habs D needs sooooooo much more though......

May they fill up their roster with depth guys.

You do you, Bergevin. Nobody does it better.

While you're at it you need Centers. Why don't you pick up a few from Vegas!

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

Habs D needs sooooooo much more though......

May they fill up their roster with depth guys.

You do you, Bergevin. Nobody does it better.

While you're at it you need Centers. Why don't you pick up a few from Vegas!

If the Habs sign 38y Markov, this will be their D barring another trade/signing:

Markov-Weber
Benn-Petry
Schlemko-Davidson

Not very good. No upside.