NHL diversity & inclusion report 2022
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Negan4Coach
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84% white? Yikes. It’s time to diversify this league. Long overdue.
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McGarnagle
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Fordy
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the nba is 73% black. what's the problem with either of these numbers?
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That's for players. The NBA has a good numbers breakdown by category; I don't believe this report includes players? Might be wrong.
In any case, you can find the NBA's breakdown here: https://www.tidesport.org/_files/ugd/fcbb68_9a67dca90cf14681b652fa521a68cea5.pdf they are actually at 56% white and 18% black for employees within the league office, which I suspect is probably a good proxy for "around the league" similar to the NHL's report.
I'm sorry, but why? Why is this a problem? Why is being white a problem? No one says that the overwhelming majorities seen in the NBA are a problem.
The world is not populated by 83% whites.
To be more approachable for fans, sponsors, the league on and off ice, needs to better reflect reality of population in world.
Help combat racism/prejudice. Expand potential pool of athletes to play the sport.
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It's a winter sport and traditionally and primarily appeals to Canadians, the northern United States (and mainly New England, Michigan, and Minnesota), Sweden, Russia, Finland, Czechoslovakia, Switzerland, etc. Those populations are still majority white for now. And the game and winter sports in general don't have as much appeal to Africa or South America by nature. Why is everyone shocked that the sport doesn't have as many black players as football and basketball? It's like if the people organizing beach volleyball got all worked up about how they need to recruit more Eskimos into their sport.
BMacLeafs
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There's so much diversity in the NHL. Look at how many shades of white we have!
Being serious, the league would benefit from having more Black or Latinx representation in its executive positions.
Being serious, the league would benefit from having more Black or Latinx representation in its executive positions.
this is the problem with the current thought process dominating these conversations. you look at a group of people, ANY GROUP, and you look at categories that you have decided are most important. Chief among them, apparently, is a completely immutable characteristic which all of us are born with and was not chosen by anyone in the entire history of the world. You don't care about decisions, interests, passions, life paths, career advice, family traditions, climate, population movements, CULTURE. None of it pierces your racial obsession. You just look at a racial % you aren't happy with and you arbitrarily decide that some white people need to lose their jobs and people of color need to take them. Insane.
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People like you that are so blinded by privilege willfully ignore the fact that just-as-well or better qualified minorities and women are systemically disenfranchised and prevented from being considered for executive/coaching/scouting roles in professional sports due to systemically bigoted hiring practices that favor nepotism and the status quo over choosing the best qualified candidates. Look at the failed re-treads the NHL constantly recycles and the common denominator between them. Immutable obsession indeed,
The fact that you are insinuating that non-white, non-male candidates are already accurately represented due to arbitrary qualifiers like "career advice, family traditions and culture" is hilariously ignorant. You're throwing out a bunch of words to imply that only a certain type of person is interested in being employed by the NHL but all it is is a thinly veiled dog whistle and an excuse to ignore that non traditional demographics simply have little chance of breaking through the old boys country club atmosphere that doesn't even pretend to resemble a meritocracy.
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Not sure if your serious or not
It may not be any any current employee loses job after this report. But, as new folks are hired (new positions, replacing retired folks), an organization may make an effort to be more diverse and inclusive in their hiring.
I recall hearing that all male orchestras started auditioning musicians behind a screen so that gender would not be taken into consideration, just the quality of performing. They started hiring women because they played better than other candidates.
Perhaps interviews need to look at all qualified candidates disregarding many qualities that may have eliminated them previously. If the only reason you are not hiring someone qualified is experience, how can a candidate get that experience without being hired?
I recall hearing that all male orchestras started auditioning musicians behind a screen so that gender would not be taken into consideration, just the quality of performing. They started hiring women because they played better than other candidates.
Perhaps interviews need to look at all qualified candidates disregarding many qualities that may have eliminated them previously. If the only reason you are not hiring someone qualified is experience, how can a candidate get that experience without being hired?
Wild guesses about a vast pool of unaired Scotty Bowmans and John Coopers. Reminds me how the Clinton administration demanded to have a woman attorney general. The first two were crooks…wouldn’t pay their nannies a living wage so they hired crim…illegal aliens. They finally found one who was single…with a history of witch trials in nursery schools over supposed child abuse. Ultimately she got 84 people killed in Waco Texas.
Hope you enjoy living on Martha’s Vineyard with the rest of your fellow bigots that rounded up and bused out the 50 illegal aliens that showed up while proclaiming they loved them.
Aside from the obvious separate categories in GM/President/etc, I don't see any reason to believe the league office's hiring practices are any different from the hiring practices of teams around the league. Like, do you think the NBA marketing team would be *that* different from the average marketing team of any NBA team?
Either way, I'm simply saying there's a difference in demographics of the employees of the NBA versus the players of the NBA, which you stated was 73%. The former far outnumbers the number of NBA players so that statistic is a bit flawed when discussing the current report.
That's not the issue, but rather why do non-white Canadians tend to prefer basketball and soccer over hockey? Going forward the country is only going to become less white, and this is a problem to hockey even if you don't attach any particular values to the question.
No, but nearly 3/4 of the US is white. What's next? You gonna complain that there are too many Asians in Chinese sports leagues?
Nobody is stopping minorities from playing or getting involved in hockey. Teams need to hire the best people possible for the positions rather than having diversity quotas for no reason other than feels.
Thankfully, nearly every comment on this report on Twitter is getting near universal negative backlash.
About 59% white.
US population by year, race, age, ethnicity, & more
The ages, races, and population density of the United States tell a story. Understand the shifts in demographic trends with these charts visualizing decades of population data.
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Why should anyone make this effort other than to be viewed superficially as "diverse and inclusive" by people who likely are a very small minority of the NHL's fanbase?
Why open up a can of worms by openly discriminating against particular races and genders?
Why would you limit your organizational excellence by not hiring the best people?
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