Buffalo Bills The Doldrums of the NFL Off-season have arrived

[PatLaFontaineASMR]

Going from 290 to 305/310 isn't a dramatic change, especially if it's muscle.

15lbs-20lbs is dramatic lol.

Impossible to gain 15lbs-20lbs of muscle in a short time. That's something that takes 5+ years. Most of these kids are already maxed out on their muscular frame.

 

[Zman5778]

As an aside:

How bad is Will Johnson's medical if he's slipped this long?

AND

How concerned about Green's off-campus stuff are teams if he's slipped this long?

 

[Husko]

Sanders had 17 sacks the last 2 seasons, that's a lot for a DT!

 

[ValJamesDuex]

It's clear that they don't value "beef" very highly at all. They value penetration ability and gap control/discipline.

Johnson likely has a year or two left with helping fill those gaps

 

[PatLaFontaineASMR]

Bills no interest in beefing up interior

It's funny how fans said we need a big ugly the entire summer. Now everyone is saying we don't need one because we drafted another DT under 300lbs.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

It's clear that they don't value "beef" very highly at all. They value penetration ability and gap control/discipline.

Like the old saying goes if it’s broke just keep it that way.

 

[Husko]

Sanders official weight is 297 (combine) and 305 (pro day), not 290.

 

[Zman5778]

It's funny how fans said we need a big ugly the entire summer. Now everyone is saying we don't need one because we drafted another DT under 300lbs.

It's not that "we don't need one because we drafted another DT under 300lbs".....it's that it's finally hitting fans that McBeane just simply don't value big uglies. So.....they're not coming.

 

[Zman5778]

Sanders official weight is 297 (combine) and 305 (pro day), not 290.

Thought I read somewhere that his playing weight was 290 last year.

But yeah. The jump from 305 to 310/315 isn't huge at all. He can play 1-tech.

 

[PatLaFontaineASMR]

It's not that "we don't need one because we drafted another DT under 300lbs".....it's that it's finally hitting fans that McBeane just simply don't value big uglies. So.....they're not coming.

Which is concerning

 

[Sound_n_Fury]

Hope that's not the plan. Drafting a guy high wanting him to dramatically change their playing weight gives me Epenesa vibes.

If he were 15 pounds heavier, he's be the same as DaQuan Jones. As a 21 year old, a few cheeseburgers and a year in the weight room will get him there without loosing his movement skills.

Those movement skills are what set him apart from the 330 pound space eaters, so this is a good pick, IMO. The run on D-lineman is on, so the trade-up, while a bit rich, seems OK if they really wanted him.

 

[Husko]

I know some are annoyed they didn't add a hulking 1-tech, but given they still failed to get DL pressure on the QB last offseason, I don't mind them priotizing pass rush over run stopping at all.

 

[Dirty Dog]

15lbs-20lbs is dramatic lol.

Impossible to gain 15lbs-20lbs of muscle in a short time. That's something that takes 5+ years. Most of these kids are already maxed out on their muscular frame.

I strongly disagree. Plenty of young players coming into the league can add significant weight with an NFL program.

 

[Zman5778]

If he were 15 pounds heavier, he's be the same as DaQuan Jones. As a 21 year old, a few cheeseburgers and a year in the weight room will get him there without loosing his movement skills.

Those movement skills are what set him apart from the 330 pound space eaters, so this is a good pick, IMO. The run on D-lineman is on, so the trade-up, while a bit rich, seems OK if they really wanted him.

The trade up value seems just fine to me.

 

[misterchainsaw]

Like the old saying goes if it’s broke just keep it that way.

Broke? The Bills were much worse against the pass than the run last year. They were top 10 in virtually all the advanced metrics against the run.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

I know some are annoyed they didn't add a hulking 1-tech, but given they still failed to get DL pressure on the QB last offseason, I don't mind them priotizing pass rush over run stopping at all.

There’s prioritizing

And there’s neglecting

 

[PatLaFontaineASMR]

I strongly disagree. Plenty of young players coming into the league can add significant weight with an NFL program.

Like who? What players have put on significant amount of weight?

Maybe like late developmental picks. If you're taking a guy with a high pick there shouldn't be an expectation he needs to significantly add weight.

 

[Husko]

Glad the bills started the DL run instead of being at the end of it without a seat

 

[Zman5778]

I know some are annoyed they didn't add a hulking 1-tech, but given they still failed to get DL pressure on the QB last offseason, I don't mind them priotizing pass rush over run stopping at all.

And a lot of our inability to stop the run is/was on the inability of our LBs and Hamlin to take proper angles. That's where the bulk of our big runs allowed generated from.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

I know some are annoyed they didn't add a hulking 1-tech, but given they still failed to get DL pressure on the QB last offseason, I don't mind them priotizing pass rush over run stopping at all.

Could get Deone Walker (6-6/345) in the 4th ? But I doubt it

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

Broke? The Bills were much worse against the pass than the run last year. They were top 10 in virtually all the advanced metrics against the run.

I could introduce you to the bills d metrics for the entirety of the draught why that’s not a meaningful argument.

 

[Zman5778]

Could get Deone Walker (6-6/345) in the 4th ? But I doubt it

We could theoretically get him at 72 maybe. I doubt we go there, but it's possible.

 

[cramdizzl]

Thought I read somewhere that his playing weight was 290 last year.

But yeah. The jump from 305 to 310/315 isn't huge at all. He can play 1-tech.

310 is pretty damn light for a 1-tech. He’s a prototypical 3-tech.

 

[misterchainsaw]

I could introduce you to the bills d metrics for the entirety of the draught why that’s not a meaningful argument.

Um.

Okay. Whatever you say

 

[Kupo]

Sanders had 17 sacks the last 2 seasons, that's a lot for a DT!

I’m seeing 9.5 sacks the last 3 seasons